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SL93 (talk) 01:25, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Sonoma City Hall has been accepted
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Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Sonoma Valley Woman's Club has been accepted
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C F A 💬 23:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: George J. Seideneck (July 24)
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Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: All Saints Episcopal Church (Carmel-by-the-Sea, California) has been accepted
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Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Lewis Josselyn (July 31)
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Nomination of All Saints Episcopal Church (Carmel-by-the-Sea, California) for deletion
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AfC notification: Draft:Lewis Josselyn has a new comment
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[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you., the section is Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Topic_Ban_or_Site_Block,_Greghenderson2006 Star Mississippi 21:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
The article Vásquez House has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
A house in the local community of Monterey California fleshed out of mostly local sources. I feel like it doesn't pass GNG NBUILDING.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Casa del Oro (August 5)
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Nomination of Bank of Carmel for deletion
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August 2024
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. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Administrator note I should add that if and when there is an appeal, this was a community-imposed block, and therefore would need community review of any appeal. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Greg, I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil. I know you're frustrated, but please do not use your talk page as a forum to hurl uncivil comments at other editors such as in your remark to Timtrent,
Congratualations, you have joined the ranks of deltionists.
Graywalls (talk) 23:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I am upset. Now you deleting all my articles! Greg Henderson (talk) 23:30, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
is declined. User is not eligible to contest the community-imposed block until 2025-08-08 at the soonest. --Yamla (talk) 22:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- This kind of not WP:IDHT behavior is part and parcel of why the community was in favor of blocking to begin with. For the record you are not blocked from using your talk page, you just are not permitted to appeal for a year. May I suggest you just accept that and move on? Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- What about my User page?
- I find it hard to believe that a user can be blocked just becuase of some disruptive editing. It is like throwing me in jail for a year just because I spoke out and used a few what say are unreliable sources. Greg Henderson (talk) 22:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- You aren't locked up, you are kicked out. The community has spoken, at length, about the issues with your edits and concluded it would be better off if you were not able to edit. This wan't my idea, I merely acted in an administrative capacity to implement the obvious consensus reflected in the ANI discussion, so I'm not going to argue the points with you but I would again suggest that the sooner you accept that you are kicked out for a year, the easier it will be to get unblocked when you are permitted to appeal. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 00:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Just Step Sideways: Is there a way I can update my user page? It has some old data that needs to be updated. It seems that even though someone is site blocked, it should not prevent them from updating their own personal user page, right? Greg Henderson (talk) 16:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can’t. Probably on a technical basis though I’m not sure. In any case having a userpage is a luxury, not a right, and “some old data needs to be updated” is an extremely trivial issue even in that context. I can, however, make the edit for you if it’s reasonably simple. Dronebogus (talk) 08:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Just Step Sideways: Is there a way I can update my user page? It has some old data that needs to be updated. It seems that even though someone is site blocked, it should not prevent them from updating their own personal user page, right? Greg Henderson (talk) 16:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- You aren't locked up, you are kicked out. The community has spoken, at length, about the issues with your edits and concluded it would be better off if you were not able to edit. This wan't my idea, I merely acted in an administrative capacity to implement the obvious consensus reflected in the ANI discussion, so I'm not going to argue the points with you but I would again suggest that the sooner you accept that you are kicked out for a year, the easier it will be to get unblocked when you are permitted to appeal. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 00:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Greghenderson2006, I'm going to take the risk of causing you further hurt by backing up the admin here. You had ample opportunity at AN/I to argue your case. While "anyone can edit" is an admirable general principle, it doesn't mean anyone has a right to do anything they want to on the site. Articles do get deleted (including some that were accepted at AfC), and admins do block people from editing in order to protect the encyclopedia. It is after all a privately owned website. Your idea of notability is, I'm sorry to say, at variance with English Wikipedia's; I'm sorry to say that even though I have an inclusionist userbox on my user page and have worked hard to save a number of articles, what I've seen of your recent articles that you listed at AN/I demonstrated to me that you set the bar for notability way too low. (I also found the articles not very well written, but that's a common reaction of mine. I did what I could to improve Santa Clara Verein, which attracted my attention because of my interest in the turner movement and because the article gave the impression in places, including the intro, that the building still existed.) You wrote that you have your own website and have published books. I sincerely suggest you focus on the website and on writing more books. Writing for a specifically interested readership is in many ways more rewarding than Wikipedia, especially if your interest is in documenting all the major buildings of smaller towns and cities, and people of only local notability. Wikipedia notability just doesn't stretch that far, I'm afraid. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for comments. I wrote the article Santa Clara Verein because it was on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places. A safer bet than some of my many Carmel-by-the-Sea, California articles. The lessons I've learned is don't speak out too much, don't write about your local area of interest, and don't write about family members. Yes, I set the Notability bar lower because I think certain people and places need recognition, e.g. photographer Draft:Lewis Josselyn or Draft:Casa del Oro. I will continue my writing efforts on Simple Wikipedia and of course, my books, and website Hendersonfamilytree.com. Thanks again for your help with Santa Clara Verein! Greg Henderson (talk) 14:44, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Looking ahead
[edit]Hi Greg. Having edited with you in the past, I'm sad to see you in this position. However, indefinite does not mean infinite and there is a path forward here. I would strongly encourage you to contribute at other Wikimedia projects; it would highly benefit any future unban request if you have a strong track-record of positive contributions at Commons, or at Wikisource, or at a different language Wikipedia, etc. And remember: no one has doubted your passion and your desire to contribute. Curbon7 (talk) 04:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Curbon7, thank you for your kind words. It means a lot to me. I think many of my articles did not meet the notability scale, which caused a lot of problems with me defending them. You are right, I can contribute to other Wikimedia projects. I really enjoy creating the Common categories along with Wikidata. Wikisource is also a great place to contribute. In a year, I'll be able to appeal my block, so I'll hope for the best. The important thing is to know that these are only bumps in the road to a better and stronger future. Thanks again, and good luck with your future as well. Greg Henderson (talk) 14:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Lewis Josselyn (August 9)
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- Thanks for reviewing my article. I've been blocked from editing, so now that you have sent it back, how am I going to edit the article? Perhaps you could have accepted the article, and then placed a banner at the top saying, not enough significant coverage. However, there is significant coverage with primary and secondary sources. What would you suggest I do about the article now? Greg Henderson (talk) 20:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can't do anything about it.This is rather the point of the block. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:41, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment. I suppose if someone notices the draft page they can decide to resubmit it, otherwise, the page will expire after six months. Greg Henderson (talk) 21:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- After any successful appeal you may request a refund if that happens. While any deletion under G13 is a disappointment it is only a temporary one. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent:, this wouldn't be a new article. It's an attempt to recreate a page that was previously created and deemed non-notable and deleted by AfD. Graywalls (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent, I kindly suggest that you read the talk page for the draft, the previous AfD, as well as all the comments (and declines) on the draft page by multiple editors and admins. This article and draft has wasted many, many hours of editors, reviewers and admin's time; the very definition of a time sink. It is highly problematic. Additionally, COI/UPE evidence has been forwarded to an administrator who then forwarded the evidence upwards to functionaries. I fully understand your commitment to kindness, however it is not net-productive to continue to encourage/enable the creator regarding this draft. Netherzone (talk) 23:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I assure you, there was not WP:UPE on my part. I just wanted to see a photographer recognized for all his work. I am sorry that I put you through any wasted hours. It was important for me to tell his story via an article on Wikipedia. The only COI was talking to the Monterey County Historical Society and researching Lewis Josselyn as a photographer of Carmel. Greg Henderson (talk) 00:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can say whatever you want, but I take your assurances with a huge grain of salt due to repeated instances like like this, and that just to name a tiny fraction of such edits. Graywalls (talk) 00:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I assure you, there was not WP:UPE on my part. I just wanted to see a photographer recognized for all his work. I am sorry that I put you through any wasted hours. It was important for me to tell his story via an article on Wikipedia. The only COI was talking to the Monterey County Historical Society and researching Lewis Josselyn as a photographer of Carmel. Greg Henderson (talk) 00:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent, I kindly suggest that you read the talk page for the draft, the previous AfD, as well as all the comments (and declines) on the draft page by multiple editors and admins. This article and draft has wasted many, many hours of editors, reviewers and admin's time; the very definition of a time sink. It is highly problematic. Additionally, COI/UPE evidence has been forwarded to an administrator who then forwarded the evidence upwards to functionaries. I fully understand your commitment to kindness, however it is not net-productive to continue to encourage/enable the creator regarding this draft. Netherzone (talk) 23:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent:, this wouldn't be a new article. It's an attempt to recreate a page that was previously created and deemed non-notable and deleted by AfD. Graywalls (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- After any successful appeal you may request a refund if that happens. While any deletion under G13 is a disappointment it is only a temporary one. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment. I suppose if someone notices the draft page they can decide to resubmit it, otherwise, the page will expire after six months. Greg Henderson (talk) 21:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can't do anything about it.This is rather the point of the block. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:41, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Redirects
[edit]@Left guide: Please stop redirecting articles I've written to List of Historic Buildings in Carmel-by-the-Sea. It seem wrong to do this without first going through the WP:AFD. Greg Henderson (talk) 15:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I recognise that this is a simple request, but it is possible to view this as WP:PROXYING, which I doubt is your intention. Please take care to do nothing which may prejudice any future appeal. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:39, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. In reading "proxying" it says: "Editors in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a banned or blocked editor (sometimes called proxy editing or proxying) unless they are able to show that the changes are productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits.
- To me this would mean an editor who is posting text towards to me.
- My intention was to send a message to Left guide who is redirecting articles that should first go through the WP:AFD nomination process before essentially delteting them through a redirection. Greg Henderson (talk) 16:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstand somewhat, and need to read it again. But may I suggest not debating the point and simply raising your awareness of the pitfalls to avoid to make sure you signal only good intentions throughout the period while you are unable to appeal 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:55, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Greg, please listen to what Timtrent is telling you. I know it is difficult but these articles and what happens to them is not your concern now. If they are deleted or re-directed you can address that if or when you are allowed to edit again. It is going to be imperative that you find other projects to work on like commons or another language wiki (if that is an option). Most of all you need to not be here damaging the potential for a successful appeal when the time is right to request one from the community. --ARoseWolf 19:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Greghenderson2006 if an editor disagrees with the redirect, they're welcome to undo @Left guide's edits. You do not currently have standing and I suggest avoiding editors to take any action on your behalf or you risk losing access to edit this talk page. Star Mississippi 01:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I understand what you are saying and agree that I need to be careful as to what I say and do to not risk further action. However, one last thing I would like to say is that I think it is unfair that a single editor, without consensus, can delete (redirect) the following pages within just a few days after I have been blocked: Richardson Log Cabin, Murphy Barn, Carmel Fire Station, Carmel Weavers Studio, Goold Building, La Rambla Building, Lemos Building, Mary Dummage Shop, T.A. Oakes Building, The Tuck Box, Sundial Lodge, Seven Arts Building, Schweninger Building, Seven Arts Shop, Sade's, Seaburst House, Amelia L. Gates, Paul Flanders, Delos Goldsmith, Fletcher Dutton, Pine Inn, Reardon Building, Normandy Inn, Monterey County Trust & Savings Building, Los Laureles Lodge, Blue Bird Tea Room, Devendorf Park, Michael J. Murphy, Frederick R. Bechdolt, Newman Post Card Co., Charles O. Goold, Inchling, Ernest Bixler. Greg Henderson (talk) 22:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- I know it's a bit late for me saying this, but editors don't have to put articles through AfD before turning them into redirects. It's called being bold. Discussion is not a prerequisite for merging, splitting of pages or converting them to redirects. — AP 499D25 (talk) 05:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
August 2024
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Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Important note: if and when that day comes around, it shouldn't go to ticket system, but submitted for community review, not an admin. per Special:Diff/1239368990 Graywalls (talk) 23:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's a fair point, although I think it would be reasonable that they go through UTRS to request talk page access back before making an on-wiki appeal. I also think that if we see another UTRS appeal before then, it would be reasonable to reset the one-year appeal period. This extreme WP:IDHT behavior has got to stop. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
is declined. User is warned further abuse may result in UTRS access being yanked, too. --Yamla (talk) 22:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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