User talk:robertsky
This page has archives. Sections older than 7 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 5 sections are present. |
should I create the article Moad Fadzir Mustaffa
[edit]dear Robertsky I am Nelson here. I wanna ask, I am thinking of creating the article Moad Fadzir Mustaffa, a convicted drug trafficker in Singapore, once I assess whether his case deserves a standalone article
There is one thing though, just two days ago, he was hanged and court judgements revealed his execution date was on 2 August 2024 and that judgement concerns his failure to delay the hanging one final time (https://www.elitigation.sg/gd/s/2024_SGCA_26). His execution is reported but his name is not shown because his family requested for privacy (https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/southeast-asia/singapore-execution-heroin-trafficking-drugs-b2590628.html). About Moad Fadzir, would it be fine for us to put his name up in Wikipedia and would there be legal repercussions if we did so? I mean I have stated in the article Capital punishment in Singapore that his execution was confirmed but he media statement did not reveal his name due to his family's privacy requests, but I am not sure if I am allowed to go beyond that. Hope to get some advice and your opinion soon Thank you so much NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 12:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Another thing to take note, drug dealer Muhammad Faizal Mohd Shariff is another example. Last year in May, CNA and other newspapers reported the failure of his appeal for a stay of execution the day before he was hanged (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/death-penalty-execution-cannabis-drug-trafficker-appeal-application-dismissed-3491776), and the family requested for privacy when the CNB released the media statement about his hanging (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/17/singapore-hangs-man-for-trafficking-1-5kg-of-cannabis), and the name still stayed on Wikipedia. The Moad Fadzir case reminds me of this previous instance just as I am seeking your opinion on this. NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 12:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NelsonLee20042020 No legal repercussion in my opinion, but I would not be bothered with writing the article if there is no notable changes to the law, process, or whatsoever. Furthermore, WP:BLPNAME accords a preference to one's privacy, which may apply in this case given that the death was recent (therefore BLP is applicable) and there is an request for privacy which is generally honoured by the media. With respect to the list on Capital punishment in Singapore, there is no need for a complete list. I won't be surprised if one challenges the inclusion and have it removed on the basis of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. – robertsky (talk) 13:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Robertsky I guess I am correct to assume that in other words, you do not encourage it for the time being as of now, unless a considerable time lapse has passed and also provided that the requirements are met? NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 14:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NelsonLee20042020, my opinion is that regardless of the passage of time, the article about this person should not be written unless there is a significant relevance of the case in relation to the history of the death penalty in Singapore. As it stands, it is an open and shut case of getting caught for drug smuggling and getting executed over it despite appeals. – robertsky (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I shall see how first, thanks @Robertsky NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 06:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NelsonLee20042020, my opinion is that regardless of the passage of time, the article about this person should not be written unless there is a significant relevance of the case in relation to the history of the death penalty in Singapore. As it stands, it is an open and shut case of getting caught for drug smuggling and getting executed over it despite appeals. – robertsky (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Robertsky I guess I am correct to assume that in other words, you do not encourage it for the time being as of now, unless a considerable time lapse has passed and also provided that the requirements are met? NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 14:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NelsonLee20042020 No legal repercussion in my opinion, but I would not be bothered with writing the article if there is no notable changes to the law, process, or whatsoever. Furthermore, WP:BLPNAME accords a preference to one's privacy, which may apply in this case given that the death was recent (therefore BLP is applicable) and there is an request for privacy which is generally honoured by the media. With respect to the list on Capital punishment in Singapore, there is no need for a complete list. I won't be surprised if one challenges the inclusion and have it removed on the basis of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. – robertsky (talk) 13:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Talk:1/Draft_1
[edit]Hi Robertsky, I wonder if you could history merge the contents of Talk:1/Draft_1 into the article 1 and delete Talk:1/Draft_1 for me? These are edits made during a full page protection due to edit warring. I would just copy the contents over and request speedy deletion, but another editor has also edited the page so it is best to preserve the contribution history. Best wishes Polyamorph (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 14 August 2024
[edit]- In the media: Portland pol profile paid for from public purse
- In focus: Twitter marks the spot
- News and notes: Another Wikimania has concluded
- Special report: Nano or just nothing: Will nano go nuclear?
- Opinion: HouseBlaster's RfA debriefing
- Traffic report: Ball games, movies, elections, but nothing really weird
- Humour: I'm proud to be a template
Question from Saandersonaz on Gena Rowlands (13:07, 15 August 2024)
[edit]Hello, I was trying to add a movie the credit Paulie to Gena Rowland and see its now added, thank-you. Such a heartwarming film and a wonderful performance given by her, Thank-you Mrs Rowland. Thank you guys for including it to her amazing list. Susie --Saandersonaz (talk) 13:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Saandersonaz er... thanks? however, the credit is not mine to claim. The film had already been credited to her since the inception of the film's article and at least since 2004 in her article. I am not sure when the table in her article was created, but I checked till 2012 revision, and it has at least been listed in the filmography table since then.\ – robertsky (talk) 13:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
You've got mail!
[edit]Message added 04:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. at any time by removing the
Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 04:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-34
[edit]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Editors who want to re-use references but with different details such as page numbers, will be able to do so by the end of 2024, using a new sub-referencing feature. You can read more about the project and how to test the prototype.
- Editors using tracking categories to identify which pages use specific extensions may notice that six of the categories have been renamed to make them more easily understood and consistent. These categories are automatically added to pages that use specialized MediaWiki extensions. The affected names are for: DynamicPageList, Kartographer, Phonos, RSS, Score, WikiHiero. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match. Thanks to Pppery for these improvements. [1]
Technical volunteers who edit modules and want to get a list of the categories used on a page, can now do so using the
categories
property ofmw.title objects
. This enables wikis to configure workflows such as category-specific edit notices. Thanks to SD001 for these improvements. [2][3]
Bugs status
Your help is needed to check if any pages need to be moved or deleted. A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages (due to Unicode issues or introduction of new namespaces/namespace aliases). The script tried to find appropriate names for the pages (e.g. by following the Unicode changes or by moving pages whose titles on Wikipedia start with
Talk:WP:
so that their titles start withWikipedia talk:
), but it may have failed for some pages, and moved them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/ instead. Your community should check if any pages are listed there, and move them to the correct titles, or delete them if they are no longer needed. A full log (including pages for which appropriate names could be found) is available in phab:P67388.- Editors who volunteer as mentors to newcomers on their wiki are once again able to access lists of potential mentees who they can connect with to offer help and guidance. This functionality was restored thanks to a bug fix. Thank you to Mbch331 for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 18 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
- The application deadline for the Product & Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has been extended to September 16. Members will help by providing advice to Foundation Product and Technology leadership on short and long term plans, on complex strategic problems, and help to get feedback from more contributors and technical communities. Selected members should expect to spend roughly 5 hours per month for the Council, during the one year pilot. Please consider applying, and spread the word to volunteers you think would make a positive contribution to the committee.
Learn more
- The 2024 Coolest Tool Awards were awarded at Wikimania, in seven categories. For example, one award went to the ISA Tool, used for adding structured data to files on Commons, which was recently improved during the Wiki Mentor Africa Hackathon. You can see video demonstrations of each tool at the awards page. Congratulations to this year's recipients, and thank you to all tool creators and maintainers.
- The latest Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is available, and includes some highlights from Wikimania, an upcoming Language community meeting, and other news from the movement.
Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.