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should I create the article Moad Fadzir Mustaffa
[edit]dear Robertsky I am Nelson here. I wanna ask, I am thinking of creating the article Moad Fadzir Mustaffa, a convicted drug trafficker in Singapore, once I assess whether his case deserves a standalone article
There is one thing though, just two days ago, he was hanged and court judgements revealed his execution date was on 2 August 2024 and that judgement concerns his failure to delay the hanging one final time (https://www.elitigation.sg/gd/s/2024_SGCA_26). His execution is reported but his name is not shown because his family requested for privacy (https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/southeast-asia/singapore-execution-heroin-trafficking-drugs-b2590628.html). About Moad Fadzir, would it be fine for us to put his name up in Wikipedia and would there be legal repercussions if we did so? I mean I have stated in the article Capital punishment in Singapore that his execution was confirmed but he media statement did not reveal his name due to his family's privacy requests, but I am not sure if I am allowed to go beyond that. Hope to get some advice and your opinion soon Thank you so much NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 12:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Another thing to take note, drug dealer Muhammad Faizal Mohd Shariff is another example. Last year in May, CNA and other newspapers reported the failure of his appeal for a stay of execution the day before he was hanged (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/death-penalty-execution-cannabis-drug-trafficker-appeal-application-dismissed-3491776), and the family requested for privacy when the CNB released the media statement about his hanging (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/17/singapore-hangs-man-for-trafficking-1-5kg-of-cannabis), and the name still stayed on Wikipedia. The Moad Fadzir case reminds me of this previous instance just as I am seeking your opinion on this. NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 12:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NelsonLee20042020 No legal repercussion in my opinion, but I would not be bothered with writing the article if there is no notable changes to the law, process, or whatsoever. Furthermore, WP:BLPNAME accords a preference to one's privacy, which may apply in this case given that the death was recent (therefore BLP is applicable) and there is an request for privacy which is generally honoured by the media. With respect to the list on Capital punishment in Singapore, there is no need for a complete list. I won't be surprised if one challenges the inclusion and have it removed on the basis of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. – robertsky (talk) 13:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Robertsky I guess I am correct to assume that in other words, you do not encourage it for the time being as of now, unless a considerable time lapse has passed and also provided that the requirements are met? NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 14:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NelsonLee20042020, my opinion is that regardless of the passage of time, the article about this person should not be written unless there is a significant relevance of the case in relation to the history of the death penalty in Singapore. As it stands, it is an open and shut case of getting caught for drug smuggling and getting executed over it despite appeals. – robertsky (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I shall see how first, thanks @Robertsky NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 06:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NelsonLee20042020, my opinion is that regardless of the passage of time, the article about this person should not be written unless there is a significant relevance of the case in relation to the history of the death penalty in Singapore. As it stands, it is an open and shut case of getting caught for drug smuggling and getting executed over it despite appeals. – robertsky (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Robertsky I guess I am correct to assume that in other words, you do not encourage it for the time being as of now, unless a considerable time lapse has passed and also provided that the requirements are met? NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 14:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NelsonLee20042020 No legal repercussion in my opinion, but I would not be bothered with writing the article if there is no notable changes to the law, process, or whatsoever. Furthermore, WP:BLPNAME accords a preference to one's privacy, which may apply in this case given that the death was recent (therefore BLP is applicable) and there is an request for privacy which is generally honoured by the media. With respect to the list on Capital punishment in Singapore, there is no need for a complete list. I won't be surprised if one challenges the inclusion and have it removed on the basis of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. – robertsky (talk) 13:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Talk:1/Draft_1
[edit]Hi Robertsky, I wonder if you could history merge the contents of Talk:1/Draft_1 into the article 1 and delete Talk:1/Draft_1 for me? These are edits made during a full page protection due to edit warring. I would just copy the contents over and request speedy deletion, but another editor has also edited the page so it is best to preserve the contribution history. Best wishes Polyamorph (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello, I was trying to add a movie the credit Paulie to Gena Rowland and see its now added, thank-you. Such a heartwarming film and a wonderful performance given by her, Thank-you Mrs Rowland. Thank you guys for including it to her amazing list. Susie --Saandersonaz (talk) 13:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Saandersonaz er... thanks? however, the credit is not mine to claim. The film had already been credited to her since the inception of the film's article and at least since 2004 in her article. I am not sure when the table in her article was created, but I checked till 2012 revision, and it has at least been listed in the filmography table since then.\ – robertsky (talk) 13:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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