1AmNobody24

The removal of the entire 'Works' section from WIKI entry Seta Dadoyan, scholar...

Dear 1AmNobody24, as per our previous talks, the issue is the removal of the entire section on 'Works' from the WIKI entry on Seta Dadoyan, an "Armenian historian, scholar..." The reason was explained as the section being too long. I totally understand the concern, and it is absolutely legitimate. As discussed, I sent you a very abbreviated one page of all published works, books and few articles, with the expectation that we would pursue the effort to restore my 'works'.

The entry on Seta Dadoyan still stands mutilated, a scholar, and a prominent one at that - with 13 major books and dozens of articles - also a painter, seems strange.

The object is now to find a way to restore the article with a brief section on my "works'. Since all the items there are published by major publishers, there can be no issue of so-called "sources." I will send that page to you anytime.

Also, while we are in this subject, and I greatly appreciate your professionalism about these matters, there are other missing matters in the entire entry, I have no idea who the author is. I suppose WIKI is precisely the venue to highlight the specifities of any subject/episode/person. How do you deal with these matters?

I very much look forward to hearing from you, a very incomplete entry on Seta Dadoyan should not persist long.

Many thanks,

Seta Dadoyan Seta dadoyan (talk) 14:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Seta dadoyan, the best point to start would be to create a complete list of works in your sandbox, sorting it by type (book (book series), articles). After that we take a look which ones can be considered the most notable ones. Since you know considerably more about Seta Dadoyan then I do, it makes sense for you to do this part alone and I then help on the second part of figuring out the notability. Nobody (talk) 15:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, 1Nobody 24, I just want to make sure that as per your advice, this morning NY time 12:00, I did send you a complete list of publications in Word and PDF versions (even though the PDF in turn looked like Word in the sandbox. This is for you to kindly "figure out the notablility." I will ask you to please share your edition, if you see it appropriate.

Please confirm receipt of the material sent about 8 hours ago, and if it came through in good form. I may send the material as attachment, if you wish to provide an address.

Many thanks! Seta dadoyan (talk) 23:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Seta, I've moved the list to your sandbox and started to improve it's layout, feel free to take a look there. It might take some time until I'm finished with it since I currently don't have much time to edit due to IRL responsibilities, but I'll do my best. Nobody (talk) 05:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi 1AmNobody24,

So nice of you to follow up this matter! We are on track, thank you. I just had a look at the sandbox.

Looking forward to finally having a decent entry worthy of WIKIPEDIA.

Best,

Seta Seta dadoyan (talk) 09:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi 1AmNobody24,

It has been a while to our last conversation (July 25), I was going through a serious life threatening health crisis, that ended in major surgery two weeks ago. I am returning to normalcy, and thought again of my mutilated and partial WIKI entry. Surely you were very kind to begin work on the "Works" part. What shows in the entry is still remotely representative of the bare facts about me, I don't even know who wrote that piece, probably an average, not too informed individual. Anyway, compared to colleagues' entries, mine was has always been the most primitive. When I tried to suggest a full bibliography, I was severely punished ...

I was thinking: may be it is time for an overall review and makeover. What makes me a most frequented and quoted authority is the total novelty of my historiography, aesthetics, and Near Eastern also interactive Armenian studies. These aspects have been absent from the beginning.

I suppose in view of this situation, and in all fairness, WIKIPEDIA could reconsider this fact. AS a WIKI editor, you may want to rewrite the entry, of course after being provided with all the necessary sources in support. I believe that just making a selection of the existing "works" -13 of which are scholarly volumes - will not improve the entry as it should. If you have other alternatives for coming up with a representative and informative entry, please let me know. I very much look forward to having your response, and thanks in advance.

Best,

Seta Dadoyan Seta dadoyan (talk) 21:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Seta good to hear your doing alright. I understand that it can be frustrating if the article of you isn't up to par with your peers. But sadly that happens a lot as people write mostly about things they're knowledegable about and I'm not sure if there's an active wikipedian working on armenian historians. And while I understand that this might be a time-sensitive issue for you, but others might not see it that way. I'll keep the article on my watchlist and maybe I'll get time to look into it, but it's not my area of expertise so no promises. Nobody (talk) 06:38, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, and yes, I can see the complexity of the situation. Can you suggest someone or a "body" whose area of expertise it is to write an entry? I would appreciate your assistance. In the meantime, I look forward to having a section on WORKS at least.

Best,

Seta Seta dadoyan (talk) 07:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I haven't seen/found someone that fits that description, but I'll keep looking. Nobody (talk) 05:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, 1AmNobody24, I can see that things seem to be on a slow track, but this is life! The only and simple way out is probably to just add the list of my "Books", and leave the rest of the missing and/or important subjects for later. For easy access and to make things easy for you - and I appreciate your disposition, really - I am sending the list below:

BOOKS

-Encounters and Convergences. A Book of Ideas and Art. USA: 2023. ISBN 979-889121965-6.

-Islam in Armenian Literary Culture: Texts, Contexts, Dynamics. Leuven: Peeters, 2021. ISBN 978-90-429-4503-6

-2015 - The Armenian Condition in Hindsight and Foresight- A Discourse / 2015 – Հայ Վիճակը

Յետահայեցութեամբ և Նախահայեցութեամբ – Վերլուծում մը. Ottawa, Canada: 2015. ISBN 978-1-4951-7994-5

-The Catholicosate of Cilicia - History, Mission, Treasures. Editor, Co-Author. Antelias, Lebanon: Catholicosate Publications, 2015. ISBN 978-9953-0-3164-4

-The Armenians in the Medieval Islamic World – Paradigms of Interaction Seventh to Fourteenth Centuries. Transaction Publishers. New Brunswick, U.S.A. & London, UK: 2011, 2012, 2013.

-Vol.Three: Medieval Cosmopolitanism and Images of Islam ‒Thirteenth to Fourteenth Centuries. (2013) ISBN 978-1-4128-4577-9

- Vol. Two: Armenian Realpolitik in the Islamic World and Diverging Paradigms ‒ The Case of Cilicia. (2012) ISBN 978-1-4128-4782-7

- Vol. One: The Arab Period in Armīnyah. (2011) ISBN 978-1-4128-5189-3

-The Armenian Catholicosate from Cilicia to Antelias − An Introduction. Antelias, Lebanon: Catholicosate Publications, 2003.

-The Contribution of the Armenian Church to the Christian Witness in the Middle East. Editor, Co-Author. Antelias, Lebanon: Catholicosate Publications, 2001.

-The Fāṭimid Armenians ‒ Cultural and Political Interaction in the Near East. Islamic History and Civilization Series. E.J. Brill. Leiden: 1997. ISBN 90-04-10816-5

- Յովհաննէս Երզնակացիի 'Ի Տաճկաց Իմաստասիրաց'ը և Իմաստասիրական Արձակը Իսլամական Աղբիւրներուն Լոյսին Տակ [John of Erznka: 'Views from the Writings of Islamic Philosophers' and Philosophical Treatises in the Light of their Islamic Sources – Ikhwān al Ṣafā’]. Beirut: 1991.

- Էջեր Արևմտահայ Մտածումէն – Ե. Տէմիրճիպաշեան, Տ. Չրաքեան-Ինտրա, Շ. Պէրպէրեան, Գ.

Գավաֆեան, Դանիէլ Վարուժան [Pages of West Armenian Philosophical Thought – E. Demirjibashian, T. Chrakian-Indra, Sh. Berberian, G. Kavafian, Taniel Varujan]. A.G.B.U. Beirut: 1987. (Winner of H. Uzunian Award for Best Armenian Book of 1987).

- Լիբանանահայ Նկարչութիւնը Ինքնութեան Տագնապին Լոյսին Տակ [Armenian Painting in Lebanon in the Light of the Crisis of Identity]. Antelias, Lebanon: Catholicosate Publications, 1984. Seta dadoyan (talk) 14:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from 02 Musiq (14:44, 1 August 2024)

How do I creat my own post --02 Musiq (talk) 14:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi 02 Musiq, If you mean create a new article, then you can look at Help:Your first article. Nobody (talk) 06:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from AtticExplorer (14:55, 5 August 2024)

Hello. Is there a way to just point something out without actually modifying an article? I don't have all the facts of something I read here but I do see some informaton missing. --AtticExplorer (talk) 14:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi AtticExplorer there are a few ways to point out missing things. Easiest is probably to leave a message on the articles talk page. Nobody (talk) 05:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, How do I create contents here? --Peter Yieu Majok (talk) 19:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Peter Yieu Majok, you can learn about editing at Help:Editing Nobody (talk) 05:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Lexton Nura (18:30, 8 August 2024)

How do I create a new article? --Lexton Nura (talk) 18:30, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Lexton Nura, you can learn about that at Help:Your first article. Nobody (talk) 05:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Hypnosef (23:14, 13 August 2024)

why did you delete my user page? It says limited biographical information is allowed and I wrote what I did to establish myself as someone educated in these topics. --Hypnosef (talk) 23:14, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Hypnosef, I nominated your userpage for deletion per WP:FAKEARTICLE, see WP:UPYES/WP:UPNO for what is allowed on the user page. It's true that limited biographical information is allowed, but it can't look like an article. Nobody (talk) 05:55, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Ohhh, I understand. I made that as practice for making articles, didn't realize that was the source of the issue. No worries! Hypnosef (talk) 22:54, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Jacob Mann

Hello, 1AmNobody24. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Jacob Mann".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from LaFootLV (19:38, 24 August 2024)

How do i change or remove an image? --LaFootLV (talk) 19:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi LaFootLV, take a look at Help:Image tutorial. Nobody (talk) 05:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Re: Edit filter report (Talk: Kmart)

You completely misunderstood the false positive report. I was talking about the talk page, not the main article. I was trying to add a comment saying that the main article should, instead of saying Long Island, refer to New York state (or both). And how is it overlink when it is substitution of one term for another in the article intro?

The fact that I couldn't even post in the talk page is stupid. 2600:1012:A021:8AD:F8BE:E19:F645:43DE (talk) 14:09, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I understood what you meant, but the post would've been told that per MOS:OVERLINK: ...major examples of the following categories should generally not be linked:

• Settlements or municipalities (e.g., New Delhi; New York City, or just New York if the city context is already clear; London, if the context rules out London, Ontario; Southeast Asia)

. Nobody (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

How is it overlink when it is the first mention of the locations when they are introduced in the article lede? And when the suggestion is to replace a term that is already linked with another? The links are not even the point anyway; the suggestion is that (linked or not) New York state is more appropriate than Long Island.

And if there was a valid response it could have just been replied to in the talk page, where such a suggestion belongs, so that other editors can also respond if there was something to say to it. 172.56.232.238 (talk) 17:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

There's an ongoing sockpuppettry issue on the article's talk page, which is why an edit filter blocks edits from most anon IPs, and will continue to do so. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 18:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I really liked how you declined yet another edit filter report after User:Ohnoitsjamie already approved it (made the necessary edit that was requested), and cited overlink as the reason despite being told multiple times that you are misunderstanding the issue: it's replacing one already linked term with another in the lede, and the links are not even the point. Complete facepalm. 172.56.232.238 (talk) 17:11, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, could i get feedback on these two pages I'm drafting?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Aphrodite_Project

thank you :) --Joiedevivre1 (talk) 06:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)