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Hi, I have a problem with a editor that can promote the dissapear of indigenous cultures(Berbers) that protects the UN and Minority rights. He's called Skitash, he's removing all my edits and I put clearly the sources that I'm using, what can I do? --Miaurol43 (talk) 08:26, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The articles are Benimellal and Tadla-Azilal region, he removed neotifinagh from all the articles, knowing that in Morocco the Tamazight is an official language and neo tifinagh is protected by the country's constitution (article 5). He's making that Wikipedia stop being neutral as always was.
- Thanks for your attention, I wait your answer Miaurol43 (talk) 08:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Miaurol43: You write about a content dispute. Article content is not controlled by a central authority, but I can outline how such disputes are handled on Wikipedia. First, looking the the edit summaries in the History of each article, the other editor has cited two policies, which I recommend that you read to start: No original research and Manual of Style - Lead Languages. Next, start by initiating a discussion about the changes on the article's Talk page, which you have done on the Beni Mellal article, but not on the Tadla-Azila article. You should check back occasionally to see if anyone has responded. This may be the simplest way to handle your issue. Second, if you think your concern is not one of misunderstanding but of an editing dispute, you may end up needing to seek formal dispute resolution. This allows other editors to take a fresh look at what is going on and to consider the dispute from a neutral standpoint. You can access more information about Wikipedia's dispute resolution process here: Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Most dispute resolution requires you to have already engaged in discussion on the article talk page first, so you will probably NOT want to start here, but you may decide to go here if the talk page turn out to be unproductive for you. Last, you also have the option to change the content of the article as you see fit (unless you have been blocked for some reason). However, I must warn you that repeatedly reverting the edits of others or adding/removing significant content without discussion may constitute disruptive editing and may cause your account to become blocked. Please do not consider this your first option— begin with the talk page. Geoff | Who, me? 12:26, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- But how can I win a discussion, he didn't answer any of my opened topics, I feel disgusted with the article, I'm from there and I feel offended that my native and official language isn't there, literally you can see my discussion with him but I don't receive any answer from him.
- Thanks for answering my doubt, and give your time Miaurol43 (talk) 17:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I wrote about it in Tadla Azilal article(with updated sources,I can provide more if it's needed), how much time I need to wait for getting a answer from my dispute? Because I don't think that's a interesting topic between wikipedia editors, can I ask if it's read automatically by wikipedia editors ? Miaurol43 (talk) 17:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Miaurol43: There is no "winning." The purpose here is to improve the encyclopedia. Did you read the article the other editor suggested about not using your own knowledge or research as references in Wikipedia articles? Also, it has been all of 18 hours since you posted to the Beni Mellal Talk page. You're going to have to be patient with your fellow volunteers. Perhaps you need to learn how to notify other users when you have a comment, as I am doing here with my comments in response to yours, using the reply to Template. Read about it. Geoff | Who, me? 17:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- But I used reliable sources, not mines but from official and public organizations(as it is IRCAM: institute royal de la culture Amazigh du Maroc), or the official constitution of 2011 as a sources the Spanish public university of Santiago de Compostela (USC) or Constitute( a recompilation of world constitution updated), also it's a minor change (native name). I'm not thinking in winning but make Wikipedia a good source for all people don't find it offensive and free edit using reliable and updated sources for make that digital encyclopedia better. Also I included another public source (Official census that is easy to search, RGPH 2014 from HCP for prove that the region have an important presence of Tamazight speakers). How can I be warned using official data without any discussion or any good explanation from a admin as Skitash is? Miaurol43 (talk) 18:12, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Miaurol43: There is no "winning." The purpose here is to improve the encyclopedia. Did you read the article the other editor suggested about not using your own knowledge or research as references in Wikipedia articles? Also, it has been all of 18 hours since you posted to the Beni Mellal Talk page. You're going to have to be patient with your fellow volunteers. Perhaps you need to learn how to notify other users when you have a comment, as I am doing here with my comments in response to yours, using the reply to Template. Read about it. Geoff | Who, me? 17:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Miaurol43: You write about a content dispute. Article content is not controlled by a central authority, but I can outline how such disputes are handled on Wikipedia. First, looking the the edit summaries in the History of each article, the other editor has cited two policies, which I recommend that you read to start: No original research and Manual of Style - Lead Languages. Next, start by initiating a discussion about the changes on the article's Talk page, which you have done on the Beni Mellal article, but not on the Tadla-Azila article. You should check back occasionally to see if anyone has responded. This may be the simplest way to handle your issue. Second, if you think your concern is not one of misunderstanding but of an editing dispute, you may end up needing to seek formal dispute resolution. This allows other editors to take a fresh look at what is going on and to consider the dispute from a neutral standpoint. You can access more information about Wikipedia's dispute resolution process here: Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Most dispute resolution requires you to have already engaged in discussion on the article talk page first, so you will probably NOT want to start here, but you may decide to go here if the talk page turn out to be unproductive for you. Last, you also have the option to change the content of the article as you see fit (unless you have been blocked for some reason). However, I must warn you that repeatedly reverting the edits of others or adding/removing significant content without discussion may constitute disruptive editing and may cause your account to become blocked. Please do not consider this your first option— begin with the talk page. Geoff | Who, me? 12:26, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
@Miaurol43:All edits by all volunteers are subject to review and reversion by all other volunteers. There was an explanation for Skitash's revert in the page edit History, as I've mentioned, citing two Wikipedia policies. You need to discuss this with Skitash and with any of the rest of the community which happens to be interested. This is what the Talk page discussion is for, and you've not given it time to occur. It is quite possible that Skitash is not aware of your one Talk page post for Beni Mellal, and there is the fact that you haven't tried to discuss your proposed changes to the Tadla-Azila article. And by the way, Skitash is not an administrator, simply a volunteer just as you are (and as I am), except that Skitash has 20 months' experience and has made over 7,800 edits during that time, while you've been editing for just under 12 months with 20 edits. Take this as an opportunity to learn. Geoff | Who, me? 20:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- ok, thanks for your help Miaurol43 (talk) 17:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Reverting cos new account or cos think not undisputed uncontroversial?
editUncontroversial/undisputed facts can be unsourced of course and are in that article. Whenevery (talk) 22:55, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Whenevery: About this edit to Brendan Dassey. No, facts in articles must be verifiable, by citing references to reliable sources, so that the reader may check the statements of facts in the articles. Geoff | Who, me? 23:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think that answers that it's cos new account/info and I'll need to source it. For the record that answer misrepresents the linked verifiability guideline "Whether and how quickly material should be initially removed for not having an inline citation to a reliable source depends on the material and the overall state of the article" as I said. Whenevery (talk) 23:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- The article is about a living person and WP:BLP applies. For the record, the nutshell summary of the latter policy is: "Material about living persons added to any Wikipedia page must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality, and avoidance of original research." Geoff | Who, me? 23:31, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think that answers that it's cos new account/info and I'll need to source it. For the record that answer misrepresents the linked verifiability guideline "Whether and how quickly material should be initially removed for not having an inline citation to a reliable source depends on the material and the overall state of the article" as I said. Whenevery (talk) 23:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from World Prix (01:54, 13 August 2024)
edithi, how to edit username? --World Prix (talk) 01:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- User blocked for misuse - WP:NOTHERE and WP:NOTWEBHOST. Geoff | Who, me? 12:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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Question from FACTMAN(ENVIRONMENT) (14:22, 16 August 2024)
editHello Will I able to create pages on Wikipedia? --FACTMAN(ENVIRONMENT) (talk) 14:22, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @FACTMAN(ENVIRONMENT): If you mean creating new articles, yes. I suggest you start here: Help:Your_first_article. Geoff | Who, me? 14:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Realdbmafrica (01:55, 25 August 2024)
editHow can I create a profile on Wikipedia --Realdbmafrica (talk) 01:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Realdbmafrica: By "create a profile," I assume you mean you wish to write an article about yourself. As you may already know, Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia written by its readers. The subjects for our articles are generally chosen by the editing community rather than by request. While there is a venue where you can request articles, a request for an article creation on oneself is likely to be declined. You can visit our 'requests for articles' page at Wikipedia:Requested articles.
- It's also important to realise that Wikipedia strongly discourages articles written by the subjects themselves or by others close to a subject because of the difficulty in writing objectively about yourself, your family, or your work. Please see Wikipedia:Autobiography for our guidelines on writing about yourself or topics you are personally involved with. While keeping in mind conflict of interest issues, please note that if someone does create an article about you, you should feel more than welcome to edit the article's Talk page to ensure that each piece of information is factual and complying with our "Biography of Living Persons" policy. This policy can be viewed at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons.
- You may also like to read Wikipedia:Notability (people) for a guideline on the type of articles that are generally accepted. Geoff | Who, me? 11:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- thanks so much I really appreciate the clarification 102.88.70.11 (talk) 12:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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You Protected The Kingkoil Page from editing
editThe Content Updated on Kingkoil Page is not correct we applied for Kingkoil India page but you mentioned Kingkoil Only and when we submitted the edits you change it to protected plz revert it as we need to update the proper content Director manik singh (talk) 17:02, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Director manik singh: I believe you must be writing about King Koil. Refer to its edit History: [1]. I didn't protect the article. As edits have been made recently to the article by users with a conflict of interest, it has been protected so that only autoconfirmed/confirmed editors are able to edit the article. I assume you also have a conflict of interest, as you appear to be trying to assert ownership over the page on behalf of its subject or a related company. You should discuss your proposed changes on the article's Talk page to see if you can establish a consensus amongst the community of Wikipedia editors for its content. Geoff | Who, me? 17:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am not trying to assert the ownership of the page , I am sharing the actual details of the company as also the company is purchased by AI Dream
- ref. Link -
- https://bedtimesmagazine.com/2024/04/ai-dream-acquires-king-koil/
- https://beddingnewsnow.com/blog/2024/04/23/king-koil-acquired-by-ai-dream/
- https://bedtimesmagazine.com/2024/04/ai-dream-acquires-king-koil/
- https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/696788
- You can check I need to update the proper update but now i can not edit . if you can check plz check and update the proper details like Now King Koil is acquired by AI Dream
- If you think these edit I am trying to make are legit plz check by yourself and move the page to AI Dreams and King koil is no more and Acquired by AI Dream Director manik singh (talk) 17:36, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I already Created Submitted the content in Talk Page You can check Director manik singh (talk) 17:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Director manik singh: I requested a revert of your page move. See the comment I left on your Talk page. Such a move and the revisions you made to this article should be discussed and a consensus reached. The India operation is discussed in the body of the article, but the company was founded in the United States and its original name should be reflected in the article about the original company in its title as the article reflects its history regardless of its acquisition and current ownership. You may wish to draft a brand-new article about "KingKoil.in" instead of hijacking the existing article, or add more information to the existing article to reflect the acquisition. Please read the article on ownership of the content of the articles. Geoff | Who, me? 19:15, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I already Created Submitted the content in Talk Page You can check Director manik singh (talk) 17:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Theodore1901 (16:32, 31 August 2024)
editIs there a standard way to properly footnote? --Theodore1901 (talk) 16:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Theodore1901: Yes, try this "how to" article to learn how it is done on Wikipedia, whether you are using the source editor or the visual editor. The article has a number of links at the bottom to other articles that expand on guidance for footnoting of references. Geoff | Who, me? 18:12, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Dr. William P. Harman (03:35, 3 September 2024)
editI am on the page that says William P. Harman in bold letters at the top. How do I get back to the text I was writing, and which I published. Where is it? --Dr. William P. Harman (talk) 03:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dr. William P. Harman: There is only your user account page, User:Dr. William P. Harman. Other than your post to my Talk page here, your account has no saved contributions, as shown in the contributions log: Special:Contributions/Dr. William P. Harman. I gather you are trying to write an article about yourself. I encourage you to take a step back and read this article: Wikipedia:Autobiography. Writing about yourself is highly discouraged. And further, before you try writing about yourself again, consider reading this essay on what it really means to have an article on Wikipedia about you: Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Geoff | Who, me? 12:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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Question from Zeusisloose417 (22:06, 5 September 2024)
editI do have one question, which is related to the county tables on election pages. I have figured out how to do them in the way that matches all of the other ones, though I feel like it takes a while. Besides the traditional way of adding data, then source editing, is there any way to do it quicker that you know of? Please let me know. --Zeusisloose417 (talk) 22:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Zeusisloose417: I know of no better way as I've always done it by hand, starting with the table insert button in the source editor. I recommend you use the help guides to see if you can gain some insights. Have a look at: Help:Table#Automated assistants (as well as the whole help article), Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/1 and the many links to other help articles at the top of the help article. You can also ask the group of experienced volunteers at the Teahouse: Wikipedia:Teahouse. Cheers! Geoff | Who, me? 23:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Majistareirter (20:15, 7 September 2024)
editHello sir, please guide me to make necessary changes in my recent article to make it available publically --Majistareirter (talk) 20:15, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Majistareiter: Please thoroughly read all the notices on your user account Talk page, User_talk:Majistareirter, as your questions are answered there. Your draft article, Draft:Harsh Satyanarayan Dhage, was reviewed and rejected for the reasons listed in the reviewer's notes. Your attempt to use your user page to publish an article was quickly and summarily deleted, as user account pages are not for publishing articles. Slow down and carefully consider the advices you have been offered. Geoff | Who, me? 20:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)