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Category:People's Republic/Republic of Haven

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Kbdank71 15:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People's Republic/Republic of Haven (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete This is a case of overcategorization: a planet in a fictional universe does not have to receive its own category. There exist already categories for planets, characters and organizations in this fictional universe and that is enough. Debresser (talk) 19:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Grayson

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The result of the discussion was: delete, as noted, the three articles in this category are already in other honorverse categories. Kbdank71 15:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Grayson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete the category contains 3 articles of which 2 are stubs and is not likely to be significantly expanded. But the main thing is that this is a case of overcategorization: a planet in a fictional universe does not have to receive its own category. There exist already categories for planets, characters and organizations in this fictional universe and that is enough. Debresser (talk) 19:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

obviously the articles in this category are also member of either category:planets in the Honorverse, or category:characters in the Honorverse or category:organizations in the Honorverse. Debresser (talk) 18:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Spacecraft in the Honorverse

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Science and technology in the Honorverse. Kbdank71 15:04, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Spacecraft in the Honorverse (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete this category is not likely to ever receive more than the 2 articles it contains presently and transfering these articles to their parent-directory 'Science and technology in the Honorverse' would put them in good company. Debresser (talk) 19:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Mammal hybrids

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. Kbdank71 15:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Hybrid equids to Category:Equid hybrids
Propose renaming Category:Hybrid bovines to Category:Bovid hybrids
Propose renaming Category:Canis hybrids to Category:Canid hybrids
Propose renaming Category:Feline hybrids to Category:Felid hybrids
Nominator's rationale: All of the sub-categories of Category:Mammal hybrids are for different families of mammals. There has not been any consistency between these categories. I am proposing that all of the categories start with the word naming members of the family (ie equid for the equidae) and end in "hybrids." (I would have no objection to having them all start with "Hybrid" and end with the word naming members of the family. I figured this could be more appropriate, since the parent category ends in "hybrids" and the main articles for hybrid mammal categories are Bovid hybrid, Canid hybrid, Felid hybrid, and Ursid hybrid.) Additionally, Category:Canis hybrids, Category:Feline hybrids, and Category:Hybrid bovines are currently misnamed. Bovine, canis, and feline do not describe families, rather a subfamily, genus, and subfamily, respectively. Since the main articles for these categories are about the bovid, candid, and felid families, it is appropriate for these categories to be renamed, using the family descriptors. --Scott Alter 17:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Croatia municipality templates

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 15:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Croatia municipality templates to Category:Croatia county templates
Nominator's rationale: Rename. When I came across this category today, I thought at first that it relates to templates about 2nd-level administrative divisions of Croatia: towns and municipalities, such as {{Zaprešić}}. However, I found out that these are templates about 1-st level administrative divisions: counties. As the templates have a potential to become more than just simple listings of towns and municipalities in a given county, I have nominated this category for renaming. Admiral Norton (talk) 15:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Moravians (ethnic group)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 14:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Moravians (ethnic group) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

  • Suggest Deletion - if kept should be renamed. This caught my eye while perusing Category:Slavic people, since it seemed out of place there as an apparent non-people category. But then I discovered that it was intended to be a category for "people of Moravian ethnicity". However, it's not clear to me whether the lone bio-article (John Henry Boner) really belongs in the category, since the only seeming allusion to Moravian ethnicity is the statement that "Boner was born in Salem's Moravian community." That's suggestive, but is it sufficient? Given the uncertainty on that point and the lack of other bio-articles, deletion of the category may be the best thing to do. If kept, I guess it should be renamed to Category:People of Moravian descent. Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}} Cgingold (talk) 12:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (but subject to possible recreation). My guess is that John Henry Boner was a member of the Moravian Church (recently discussed), rather than an ethnic Moravian by descent. That leaves the category only with a main article, which would (at least for the moment be better in Category:Czech people. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The alternative might be to keep it and make the one remaining article (assuming that Boner should be removed) the main article for the category. I do not know enough to say whether Moravian is distinct from Czech, but the artilce suggests not. I suspect that Bohemian and Moravian are quasi-nationalities, based largely on residence. An analogy might be made between English and Scots, both of whom are British, and (mostly speaking essentially the same language). Peterkingiron (talk) 14:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete our article on this purported ethnic group is singularly devoid of references, but even taking it at its face value most "Moravians" became "Czechs" within a ten-year census period - this apparently mutable ethnicity stands in stark contrast with most of our ethnicity concepts and hence is probably invalid. Hence its category is unsupportable since we cannot tell what or who is or isn't Moravian (perhaps I'll be next week and change back the week following). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete. Cat creator is a clone of sock-master User:Pastorwayne who was indef banned. Kittybrewster ☎ 12:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films articles needing expert attention

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Kbdank71 14:46, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Films articles needing expert attention to Category:Film articles needing expert attention
Suggest merging Category:Filmmaking articles needing expert attention to Category:Film articles needing expert attention
Nominator's rationale: These categories are populated by the {{expert-subject}} tag, but they all relate to the same WikiProject (WP:FILM), hence it should be desirable to only have a single category for this purpose. Category:Articles needing expert attention suggests that deleting the two duplicates will divert their contents into Category:Miscellaneous articles needing expert attention, but perhaps it would be prudent to retain them as redirects? I'll post a comment on the template's talk page linking to this discussion, in case anyone there can also be of assistance. PC78 (talk) 12:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films set in San Francisco

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Kbdank71 15:01, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Films set in San Francisco to Category:Films set in the San Francisco Bay Area
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Category is too limited, and description of the category in its page already says it's for films set in the SFBA. Geopgeop (T) 08:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. And note that the category needs reparenting also. - Stepheng3 (talk) 22:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose First off, I'm not sure we even need this category, but "San Francisco Bay Area" is too broad. I grew up near San Jose, which is a good 90 minute drive from San Francisco, but it was considered part of the "San Francisco Bay Area". If we expanded it to that, it would encompass all movies set in most of Northern California. Just my $.02... — Frecklefσσt | Talk 14:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Valid and obvious subcategory of Category:Films set in the United States by city. Instead we should correct the category description and weed out any films which are not primarily set in the city. PC78 (talk) 00:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stanley

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Stanley to Category:Stanley, Hong Kong
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per article name and commons cat. Just "Stanley" is hopelessly ambiguous. Grutness...wha? 06:30, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Descendants of John Tripp

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 14:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Descendants of John Tripp (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I admit that I'm not 100% sure who John Tripp is, though I'm sure he's somehow significant to some genealogists. The category defines him as "John Tripp (1610-1675), who lived in Portsmouth, Newport County, Rhode Island". There is no WP article about this particular John Tripp that I can find. I can find various information about him on the internet—looks like he was a prominent emigrant from England in Rhode Island and a community leader in Portsmouth. Whatever his status, it is nevertheless inappropriate to categorize people by ancestor, no matter how significant that ancestor is. See:
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_April_13#Category:Descendants_of_Richard_Warren
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_May_4#Category:The_Beatles'_children
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_October_22#Category:Frank_Sinatra's_children
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_January_12#Category:Descendants_of_Lakandula
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_May_5#Category:Descendants_of_Queen_Victoria
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_May_15#Category:Grandchildren_of_Victoria_and_Albert
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_May_15#Category:Grandchildren_of_Paul_I_of_Russia
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_May_18#Category:Natural_Descendants_of_Louis_XIV Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}} — Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from Northern Ireland by occupation. Kbdank71 14:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish people by occupation to Category:People by occupation in Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. It would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:27, 29 January 2009 (UTCr
  • Rename Per this this discussion. I though this would be a natural move? --Domer48'fenian' 00:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename as suggested to "Category:People from Northern Ireland by occupation" - this is unambiguous, accurate and can possibly offend no one. Kittybrewster please stop patronising Vintagekits with you comments, none of us wish to return to the situation we had here in August 2007. We have all moved on. We cannot all have the benefit of your education, but common sense fortunately is something that one acquires or does not acquire, as the case maybe - in this case it is common sense to chose the easy and accurate path. Please assume this to be a comment applicable to all similar renamings proposals below. Giano (talk) 09:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish emigrants

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 14:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish emigrants to Category:Emigrants from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. It would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People of Northern Irish descent

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 14:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:People of Northern Irish descent to Category:People descendant from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as appropriate and delete. If we accept that "Northern Irish" is not a nationality or ethnicity, how can anyone be of that national/ethnic descent? It seems to me that people in this category are either of British descent or of Irish descent and their ancestors happened to live in Northern Ireland. Where someone's ancestors lived is not defining, though their ancestors' nationality/ethnicity may be. I suggest manually merging the contents to Category:People of British descent and Category:People of Irish descent as appropriate and then deleting it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish people by ethnic or national origin

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from Northern Ireland by ethnic or national origin. Kbdank71 14:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish people by ethnic or national origin to Category:People by ethnic or national origin in Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. It would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish expatriates

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 14:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish expatriates to Category:Expatriates from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. It would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of Northern Irish people

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 14:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Lists of Northern Irish people to Category:Lists of people from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. It would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish murder victims

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The result of the discussion was: rename no comment about the usefulness of 1.5 articles per category. Kbdank71 14:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish murder victims to Category:Murder victims from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
a) they weren't, & b) we don't do Germans murdered in the US etc. Johnbod (talk)
Au contraire. There are two streams: Category:Murder victims by nationality and Category:Murder victims by country. The first is for nationality of the victim; the second is for place of murder. This is of the first type. So the question still stands—what if a person is from Northern Ireland and is murdered outside of Northern Ireland? You can't tell me it hasn't happened before. Indeed, there is an entire subclass, Category:People murdered abroad by nationality, with 79 subcategories. The fact that there is no N.I. example right now is not a reason to discount the very real possibility that it can apply and may well apply to a future article. Merging the place of origin category with the place of murder category just delays the discussion of what to call the one that is needed as a place of origin category. If anyone wants to put off that decision until we face it, that's fine, since right now the place of origin and place of murder categories overlap perfectly, but I think it would be better if the name for the place of origin one were chosen by consensus here rather than by the single user in the future who decides that it needs to be created. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Humph! 79 sub-cats with an average of about 1 1/2 articles each! But while this structure exists, rename per nom. Johnbod (talk) 19:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
With 140 articles in the category and its subcategory, Category:Saudi Arabian people imprisoned abroad alone probably bumps up that average well beyond 1½. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. In many cases (though not this one), it would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:29, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish Nobel laureates

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 14:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish Nobel laureates to Category:Nobel laureates from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. It would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:29, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish people by religion

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from Northern Ireland by religion. Kbdank71 14:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish people by religion to Category:People by religion in Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. It would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish prisoners and detainees

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 14:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish prisoners and detainees to Category:Prisoners and detainees from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. In most cases (though not this one), it would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish women

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 14:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish women to Category:Women from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it wasn't seriously considered in that discussion. I disagree that that it would not work and that it is incorrect. It would "work" just nicely as a compromise between avoiding "Northern Irish" and keeping the formatting consistent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Irish people stubs

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The result of the discussion was: Not the right place for this discussion. This category is controlled by Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting and you can discuss this change over there. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not strictly true - but changes to stub types are discussed at WP:SFD, not WP:CFD. Grutness...wha? 00:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Northern Irish people stubs to Category:Stubs for people from Northern Ireland
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per title of the head category and this discussion. Vintagekits (talk) 02:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jewish terrorism

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Jewish terrorism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Jewish is not a nationality, but an ethnic group. Though it can also be referred to as a member of a faith, this categorization is racist and anti-Semitic. It is proposed that this category gets deleted, or the name changed where it does not categorize individuals by race/ethnicity. Wiki Raja (talk) 02:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: A better idea would be to merge both Category:Jewish terrorism and Category:Terrorism in Israel to either Category:Zionist terrorism or Category:Israeli terrorism. And, no I'm not Jewish, but tend to advocate on the anti-defamation of ethnic identities whether they be Jew, Mayan, Malay or any other group. Wiki Raja (talk) 00:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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People of the Moravian Church

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Category:People of the Moravian Church miscellaneous
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The result of the discussion was: delete; merge contents as nominated. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:38, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People of the Moravian Church miscellaneous (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:Latvian Moravians
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The result of the discussion was: delete "Latvian Moravians" DUN Dun dunnnunnunnunn! Lightning CRASH!! Muahahahaha... DELETE!!! IT'S ALIVE!!! and rename "People of..." to fix capitalization. Kbdank71 14:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

= Category:Latvian Moravians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Latvian People of the Moravian Church (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Rationale: These two categories are entirely redundant; both were created by the same (apparently inexperienced) editor within minutes of each other. The target category is consistent with the other sub-cats by nationality of Category:People of the Moravian Church. It should be noted that Category:Latvian Moravians is consistent with the more widely used formulation for other denominations. However, "Moravians" is an ambiguous term, since it can also refer to people of Moravian descent. Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}} Cgingold (talk) 00:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's a reasonable suggestion -- but it conflicts with the names of the sibling categories, so I think it would be better to deal with them all together, in a separate CFD. Meanwhile, this name change could actually be Speedied, as long as we're agreed on which of the two should be kept. Cgingold (talk) 21:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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