Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 June 1
June 1
editCategory:Councillors in Kettering
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- Category:Councillors in Kettering (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Local councillors are inherently non-notable. This category currently has three members. Two are up for AFD (which one might possibly survive). The third member is now an MP. I would not oppose upmerge to Category:Councillors in the East Midlands if others prefer. This is the only current subcategory of that one. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Hornby Hobbies
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Hornby plc. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Hornby Hobbies to Category:Hornby Railways
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match the main article Hornby Railways. In reading the article, it was not clear from the history which is the current name, so I elected to go with that is used in the introduction and the article title on the theory that generally the category and article name should match. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Hornby Railways. The current name of the company is Hornby plc - see [1], but most people will remember it as Hornby Railways. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Hornby plc. Hornby Railways, as the first sentence says, is a brand, though it was a company name in the 80s I think, and there is no article on the group as such, though the railways article has what material there is on the main company. There is really no main article as such. Johnbod (talk) 12:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- I can support that now that we have someone who knows the history commenting. Should the section on Hornby Hobbies be split out as an article or do we add a redirect to the section in Hornby Railways? Vegaswikian (talk) 21:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Tomy
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- Propose renaming Category:Tomy to Category:Takara Tomy
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. This matches the main article for the merged companies. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Playmates
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- The result of the discussion was: 'Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:38, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Playmates to Category:Playmates Toys
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Current name is completely ambiguous and the purposed name matches the main article. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Rename. I can't imagine agreeing more.--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:SunCruz Casinos
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- Category:SunCruz Casinos (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. Defunct company in bankruptcy. There is no need for the single entry category where the sole article is correctly parented. If in the future the category can be adequately populated, then it can be recreated. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Gosport Ferry Company Ltd
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- Propose renaming Category:Gosport Ferry Company Ltd to Category:Gosport Ferry
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Match the name of the main article. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Wildfires by year
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge as suggested. In addition, they should be merged into 'XXXX fires' and 'XXXX natural disasters' categories. Also create Category: Wildfires by decade. Ruslik_Zero 18:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- Category:1970 wildfires → Category:1970s wildfires
- Category:1975 wildfires → Category:1970s wildfires
- Category:1987 wildfires → Category:1980s wildfires
- Category:1988 wildfires → Category:1980s wildfires
- Category:1991 wildfires → Category:1990s wildfires
- Category:1994 wildfires → Category:1990s wildfires
- Category:1995 wildfires → Category:1990s wildfires
- Category:1996 wildfires → Category:1990s wildfires
- Category:1997 wildfires → Category:1990s wildfires
- Category:1998 wildfires → Category:1990s wildfires
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There are too few members in these categories to support a by year hierarchy. for years prior to 2000 I suggest that a by decade scheme should be sufficient. I might agree to letting the 1990s categories alone, however the four categories spanning the 70s and 80s definitely ought to be upmerged. __meco (talk) 14:03, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose – as the nomination declines to address the other necessary upmerges. Eg Category:1996 wildfires has to be upmerged also to Category:1996 fires and Category:1996 natural disasters. Occuli (talk) 14:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't follow you. __meco (talk) 15:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Your nom would take 1996–97 Australian bushfire season out of Category:1996 fires and Category:1996 natural disasters (in which it now sits via category inclusions, via the other parents of Category:1996 wildfires). Occuli (talk) 15:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- This simply means that the category you mentioned will have to be categorized somewhat differently. That is a very standard situation. I'd be happy to leave that up to the editors who have that category on their watchlist, unless this is something that the closing admin deals with. I'm sure they're quite used to this sort of recalibration. __meco (talk) 16:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- It is the business of the nominator to deal with all aspects of the nomination. Obviously taking articles out of correct categories (as a side-effect) is not desirable. Occuli (talk) 16:54, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Another problem is that there is not (yet) Category:1990s fires (or Category:1990s natural disasters, or Category:1990s disasters). Occuli (talk) 15:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well, they are obviously going to be created. __meco (talk) 16:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Why is there a need for Category:Fires by decade, Category:Disasters by decade, Category:Natural disasters by decade, as well as Category:Fires by year, Category:Disasters by year, Category:Natural disasters by year? How is navigation in Category:20th-century natural disasters improved by introducing decades? Occuli (talk) 16:54, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- The answer to that is rather self-evident. As we move backwards in time these incidents are going to be further and further apart as far as coverage in Wikipedia articles is concerned. So when the first article on some devastating wildfire in the 18th century is written, it will probably not be prudent to put it into Category:1737 wildfires, nor in Category:1730s wildfires. Category:18th century wildfires or Category:Wildfires before 1900 is probably going to be more appropriate categories to decide on. It may however go into Category:1737 natural disasters and Category:18th-century fires. We're going to have to delimit all such categories similarly. Now or later. __meco (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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- Suggestion to maybe avoid over categorization but still meet obvious needs. Why don't we keep Category:Disasters by year and Category:Natural disasters by year. The existing smaller subcategories would rollup into Category:Disasters by decade and Category:Natural disasters by decade. For example, categories like Category:1730s wildfires would be upmerged into Category:Natural disasters by year and Category:Wildfires by decade or Category:Wildfires by century? This sorts everything into logical trees and reduces the number of small over specific categories. If over time we start to get large categories at the top levels, then we can split out the larges subcategories. Is this a reasonable direction? If so, more details would need to be worked out and the wildfires tree could be the test bed. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support last suggestion or something similar. Categorising everything by year leads to us having a mass of almost empty categories. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I also wonder if {{year by category}} is in fact the cause of many of these ultra small categories. If so, when we reorganize, we may want to retain that template in only limited cases. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:48, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- My only objection to the nom is that it fails to address the necessary upmerges, and for some reason the nominator cannot be bothered to deal with this. Eg Laguna Fire must stay in Category:1970 fires (2 articles in all) and Category:1970 natural disasters (20+ articles in all) (or the nom should be broadened to upmerge these somewhere, but then these are not so obviously over-specific). I'm not sure why we are even discussing the 1800s, to which different criteria apply. A coherent nom would be: upmerge Category:1970 wildfires to Category:1970s wildfires, Category:1970 fires and Category:1970 natural disasters. If Category:1970 fires is thought to be too specific then there can be a follow-up cfd to upmerge this (to all its parents, not just one plucked out seemingly at random). Category:1970 natural disasters is not too specific IMO. Occuli (talk) 00:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- I think that is the direction for my suggestion. So we are probably on the same page and the devil is in the details. If the discussion closes endorsing this direction, then the only way an action can be taken will be to upmerge a slew of these and then create some limited subcategories where needed. Not totally following process, but in this case the most reasonable alternative. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:14, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Not so much cannot be bothered as the fact that I haven't fully understood the nuts and bolts of the upmerge process. I fully support what you suggest. In fact that was what I intended but where unable to do. I'll probably do this right the next time I make a similar nomination. __meco (talk) 10:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:New Wave/Post-punk revival albums
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 10:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:New Wave/Post-punk revival albums to Category:Post-punk revival albums
- Nominator's rationale: Simpler name, matches main article, WP:SLASH. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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Category:European crimes
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 10:01, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Category:European crimes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Another essentially empty category by User:Nopetro (now Nudecline). Its sole content Area of freedom, security and justice is not a "European crime." This cat is grouped under the Crime by country Criminal law by country cats, in spite of the fact that Europe is not a country. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Delete – another ill-considered contribution by the prolific User:Nopetro, who can create a dozen worthless categories in the time it takes to type a sentence in cfd. Occuli (talk) 00:21, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Soundtracks by property
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Relisted at 2010 JUN 28 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
- Category:Soundtracks by property (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. Seems like overcategorization as all of these are already categorized under the Soundtrack umbrella in more specific "film", "television", "anime", "video games" soundtrack categories. Not sure that they need to be lumped together in this new category. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 16:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment/COI I figured this would be useful for navigating between multimedia properties like Category:Batman music or Category:Sonic the Hedgehog soundtracks which can include soundtracks to film, television, literary, and video game iterations of these characters. Otherwise, several of these categories will get bumped up to being in Category:Soundtracks and clutter that parent. For what it's worth, several of these articles are not soundtracks themselves—e.g. Kiss from a Rose, which is in Category:Batman music. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Icelandic Canadian settlements
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Places in Canada settled by Icelanders. — ξxplicit 21:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Icelandic Canadian settlements to Category:Places in Canada populated by Icelanders
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per general move away from use of the word "settlement" for a general populated place. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose - This is in fact an act of settlement. Canadian historiography uses the word "settlement" and "settler" pervasively. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 17:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Seems straightforward. No reason to make the Canadian categories any different. The current name is also a bit ambiguous or nonsensical, since the settlement itself has no ethnicity. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- There are several reasons to treat this differently. 1. This actually involves settlement in the sense of pioneering and breaking land. 2. Local varaties of English 3. "Populated places" is wiki-speak that must yield in the face of a common name. 4. Proper tense: they were "settled" (in the past) by Icelanders, almost exclusively, but are now "populated" (in the present) by many types of people. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 10:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- WP:COMMONNAME doesn't apply to categories as it does to articles. I'm from Canada and the proposed name makes as much if not more sense to me than the original, so "local varieties of English" is somewhat subjective in this case. If you want the word "settled" in it for your reasons (1) and (4), then surely Category:Places in Canada settled by Icelanders would make far more sense and be less ambiguous? Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- That does makes sense, but it's rather wordy, compared to what we already have, don't you think? --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 08:56, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. Some would say wordy, others would say clear and unambiguous. As far as wordy goes, I've certainly seen worse, that's for sure. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:14, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- That does makes sense, but it's rather wordy, compared to what we already have, don't you think? --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 08:56, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- WP:COMMONNAME doesn't apply to categories as it does to articles. I'm from Canada and the proposed name makes as much if not more sense to me than the original, so "local varieties of English" is somewhat subjective in this case. If you want the word "settled" in it for your reasons (1) and (4), then surely Category:Places in Canada settled by Icelanders would make far more sense and be less ambiguous? Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:16th-century Indian historians
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- The result of the discussion was: upmerged as nominated, with no prejudice to recreation as part of an organized category scheme. There were only three articles so categorized, and while I don't doubt this could lead to a greater category structure, there would have to be evidence of someone willing to undertake that work for this proceed.--Mike Selinker (talk) 19:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:16th-century Indian historians to Category:16th-century historians, Category:16th-century Indian people and Category:Indian historians
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OC there are no trees Category:16th-century Indian people by occupation, Category:16th-century historians by nationality Mayumashu (talk) 00:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - neither are there other by century cats in Category:Indian historians. Occuli (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Given there are far fewer medieval chronicles etc in India, & precedents for similar 20/21st century cats, we probably only need 17th, 18th & 19th to make the full set. Johnbod (talk) 00:59, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Comment -- If we do need to merge at all, I would suggest that we merge according to a broad period of Indian History, rather than AD centuries (which depend on an occidental calendar). Peterkingiron (talk) 16:29, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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Category:Corporate culture
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Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 June 9. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:26, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Corporate culture to Category:Organizational culture
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Consistency with main article. Pnm (talk) 08:39, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Job search engines
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- Propose renaming Category:Job search engines to Category:Employment websites
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Consistency with rename of main article. Pnm (talk) 08:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Texas Rangers
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Texas Rangers to Category:Texas Rangers (baseball)
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match the main article. Note Texas Rangers is a dab page. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support Mayumashu (talk) 18:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of places in Slovenia
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:59, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of places in Slovenia to Category:Lists of populated places in Slovenia
- Nominator's rationale: All the lists here are of "cities, towns, and villages". Categories with terms like that are being renamed to "populated places" per Wikipedia talk:Categorization/Categorising human settlements and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 April 17#Category:Settlements. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:TRTS Stations
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- The result of the discussion was: rename all. Courcelles (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:TRTS Stations to Category:Taipei Rapid Transit System stations
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match name of main article, Taipei Rapid Transit System, and to fix spelling. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support per comment in nomination below.--Mike Selinker (talk) 06:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Planned infrastructure
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- The result of the discussion was: rename all but using "proposed"- the 31 May CFD saw all the discussion. Courcelles (talk) 20:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. More of the same from yesterday's nomination, changing "Future" to "Planned." "Proposed" has also been suggested as an alternative. One argument in favor of this is the existence of Category:Planned communities, which means something else entirely.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:43, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support with Category:Future TRTS stations to Category:Planned Taipei Rapid Transit System stations. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- No disagreement assuming the parent category is also renamed.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- It's nominated. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- No disagreement assuming the parent category is also renamed.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Closing request: Please close in alignment with the result on this nomination. That nomination seems to have global agreement that "Proposed" is better than "Planned," so I've created a list at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_May_31/Future_infrastructure with the changes heading to "Proposed (X)" for this and the other two nominations.--Mike Selinker (talk) 11:13, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Organizational theory
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. The revised proposal didn't produce comments, so perhaps a fresh nomination is in order. I think that would be more likely to produce new comments than a relisting of this messy-ish discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:39, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Organizational theory to Category:Organizational theories
merging Category:Organizational theory to Category:Organizational studies and human resource management - Nominator's rationale:
Merge.The topics appear to be synonymous and share a main article. Pnm (talk) 05:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. The parent category Category:Organizational studies and human resource management is a pool of everything from abstract, academic sociological studies to practical HR topics, including the whole world of Category:Employment. There's absolutely no reason to flood the parent category with abstract (or even made-up) stuff like Organizational ecology or Exit-Voice-Loyalty-Neglect Model. It's already full of .. of it. The parent cat needs a thorough cleanup. Inside it, Category:Aspects of organizations and Category:Organizational theory may be worth merging. As well as aforementioned Exit-Voice-Loyalty-Neglect Model and Exit, Voice, and Loyalty. Piling it all up in one place may be a good incentive for cleanup, but in the long run the parent category is better kept neat and clean, with as many articles as possible classified into their own niches. East of Borschov (talk) 20:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Note: I did not mean to endorse current Category:Organizational studies and human resource management; on the contrary, it may be worth splitting into practical and abstract topics. East of Borschov (talk) 20:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I completely agree that Category:Organizational studies and human resource management needs significant cleanup and diffusion. I'm arguing that this category isn't the right way to do that. Grouping "aspects" or "theory-like" articles seems to be sorting by obscurity, and while that would help with such a widely scoped category, topical subcategories would be better: good ones are Category:Corporate culture and Category:Human resource management. I recently proposed a category for organizational design/structure: see discussion at Category talk:Organization design#Rationale.
- Unfortunately, many of the articles in Category:Organizational theory are already cluttering the parent category, including organizational ecology. Exit-Voice-Loyalty-Neglect Model belongs in Category:Human resource management or one of its subcategories. Demotion seems not primarily theoretical, and probably belongs in Category:Human resource management. Seagull manager probably belongs in a management styles category under Category:Management. Even Mimetic isomorphism seems to be more about structure than theory.
- I could see retaining the theory category for now, with the understanding that articles under theory should be moved into topical subcategories as such categories are created. When appropriate, the topical subcategories could have both org studies and org theory as a parent.
- Or, do you have another strategy in mind? --Pnm (talk) 00:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- I left strategy behind at the last HR exam many years ago ... oh how I hate these essays. But perhaps it makes sense to draw a top-down tree of the whole package: what should be there or not. East of Borschov (talk) 08:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- Work in process: User:Pnm/Organizational studies categories.
- Anticipating future discussion of topical subcategories, and to avoid dumping into an overfilled category, I revise my proposal: I propose renaming this category to Category:Organizational theories. The new scope would be general theories of organizations and abstract organizational studies concepts that don't fit in a more specific subtopic.
- Rationale: "Organizational theories" better reflects the proposed, limited scope – it's not an umbrella category.
- Examples:
- Actor-Network Theory
- Complexity theory and organizations
- Contingency theory (this is a key topic and can probably be double-listed in parent category)
- Economy and Society
- Evolutionary Theory and organizations
- Institutional theory
- Labor process theory
- New institutional economics
- New institutionalism
- Organizational ecology
- Scientific management
- Transaction cost
- --Pnm (talk) 19:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Examples:
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Category:Dimension Zero albums
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Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 June 14. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Dimension Zero albums to Category:Dimension Zero (Swedish band) albums
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Propose disambiguating category name to match Dimension Zero (Swedish band). Dimension Zero (American band) exists on WP. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia people
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge/delete/rename all. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia people to Category:Yugoslav people
- merging Category:Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia expatriates to Category:Yugoslav expatriates
- merging Category:Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia expatriate footballers to Category:Yugoslav expatriate footballers
- merging Category:Pre-1992 Yugoslav footballers to Category:Yugoslav footballers
- merging Category:Pre-1992 Yugoslavia international footballers to Category:Yugoslavia international footballers
- merging Category:Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia politicians to Category:Yugoslav politicians
- merging Category:Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sportspeople to Category:Yugoslav sportspeople
- deleting Category:Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia diaspora (would be emptied by merge of Category:Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia expatriates to Category:Yugoslav expatriates)
- renaming Category:Expatriates in the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia to Category:Expatriates in Yugoslavia
- Nominator's rationale: Merge/delete/rename as indicated. Now that the "FR Yugoslavia" categories have been renamed to "Serbia and Montenegro" categories, there is no longer any reason to have separate subcategories for SFRY people—these can all just be upmerged into the general categories for Yugoslav people. (Most of these SFRY subcategories (with the exception of the footballers) have been quite half-heartedly populated and there has not been a corresponding effort to separate out people from the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, nor should there be—the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and the SFR Yugoslavia were the same country, which we call "Yugoslavia". The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia went under slightly different names throughout its history, but we don't differentiate in categorization between all of these. It was only Serbia and Montenegro retaining the name "FR Yugoslavia" that caused the confusion in the category system, but now this source of confusion is defunct in the category system. FR Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) was created in 1992, hence the awkward use of "Pre-1992 Yugoslav footballers".) Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support, per Good Olfactory. Davshul (talk) 05:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support given the recent rename cited Mayumashu (talk) 17:44, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Sports venues in Las Vegas, Nevada
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:05, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Sports venues in Las Vegas, Nevada to Category:Sports venues in the Las Vegas metropolitan area
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Most of these are not in the city and the main parent is Category:Sports in the Las Vegas metropolitan area so this is a more consistent name with the other categories. No objection if the category is later recreated if someone feels the need to populate a city only category. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:00, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 00:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Inaccuracy is not permitted so we can't tolerate an article to be categorized as in a specific city when it isn't, and nitpicky categorization of such places by municipality/unincorporated area would be too much of a hindrance. The metropolitan area is the more relevant functioning unit here. postdlf (talk) 06:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support nom. as explained. Mayumashu (talk) 18:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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