Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 26
April 26
editCategory:Withdrawment of international organizations
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 03:02, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: All articles in the category use the word "withdrawal" rather than "withdrawment" and the preposition "from" looks better in this context. Brandmeistertalk 18:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy rename per C2A. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:23, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom --Lenticel (talk) 01:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Shouldn't the article Brexit be added to this category? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- No, because that category is supposed to include articles about the act itself of withdrawing from a certain international organization, not examples of countries withdrawing from international organizations. Super Ψ Dro 16:12, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- Brexit is not an example of a country, it is about an actual withdrawal. I do think it belongs in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:23, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- Again the category is supposed to group the topic itself of withdrawing from a given international organization. Including examples of countries withdrawing from some of those breaks the point of having the category in the first place. Super Ψ Dro 08:11, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- What harm is there to define the scope of the category as to also include actual withdrawals? It does not break anything, it just adds something. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:53, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Again the category is supposed to group the topic itself of withdrawing from a given international organization. Including examples of countries withdrawing from some of those breaks the point of having the category in the first place. Super Ψ Dro 08:11, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- No, because that category is supposed to include articles about the act itself of withdrawing from a certain international organization, not examples of countries withdrawing from international organizations. Super Ψ Dro 16:12, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Bantayog ng mga Bayani
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:12, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer, the main article is already mentioned in the header of the subcategory, and for the biography it is not a defining characteristic (there is no mention of what exact role this person played in this respect). Marcocapelle (talk) 17:41, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Michael Astor
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:12, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous category for two image files. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:30, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Sorry, I didn't realise when I uploaded that image, that images on en.WP don't have that sort of category. So please delete. Storye book (talk) 19:58, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 01:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Black Hour
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:13, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: An eponymous parent category for one subcategory for albums is not warranted per WP:OCEPON. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:00, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:06, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Emigrants from the Netherlands to the British Empire
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- The result of the discussion was: rename/upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:36, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Emigrants from the Netherlands to the British Empire to Category:Dutch emigrants to the British Empire per parent Category:Dutch emigrants
- Upmerge Category:Emigrants from the Netherlands to British Ceylon to Category:Dutch emigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Asia and Category:Immigrants to British Ceylon
- Upmerge Category:Emigrants from the Netherlands to Southern Rhodesia to Category:Dutch emigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Africa and Category:Immigrants to Southern Rhodesia
- Upmerge Category:Dutch emigrants to the Cape Colony to Category:Dutch emigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Africa and Category:Immigrants to the Cape Colony
- Nominator's rationale: previous cfds such as 2022 October 4#Category:Emigrants from the United States to British India and 2022 October 4#Category:Emigrants from the Ottoman Empire to British India have upmerged small categories (often created by Johnpacklambert) to their parents. The above are all small (1 or 2 articles) and should be similarly upmerged. There are in total 4 people, all demonstrably Dutch, in the above categories combined (all created by Johnpacklambert). Consensus at recent cfds has endorsed the 'fooian emigrants to boo' format: 2023 April 12#Category:Liechtenstein emigrants and 2023 April 8#Emigrants. Oculi (talk) 16:04, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Weak support, technically the nomination is correct, but emigration to the British Empire sounds odd because it can still be anywhere in the world. We'd better create continent categories for cases like this. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:12, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Good idea. We have Category:Former British colonies and protectorates in Africa so the African ones could be upmerged to Category:Immigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Africa; there are plenty of subcats to add immediately. Ditto the other continents: see Category:Former British colonies. Categories ought to start at the top rather than the micro-level. Oculi (talk) 19:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have created Category:Immigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Africa and Category:Immigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Asia and modified the nom accordingly. Oculi (talk) 23:34, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have created Category:Immigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Africa and Category:Immigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Asia and modified the nom accordingly. Oculi (talk) 23:34, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Good idea. We have Category:Former British colonies and protectorates in Africa so the African ones could be upmerged to Category:Immigrants to former British colonies and protectorates in Africa; there are plenty of subcats to add immediately. Ditto the other continents: see Category:Former British colonies. Categories ought to start at the top rather than the micro-level. Oculi (talk) 19:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Query Was this out of process ? Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:36, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The rationale offered is "to their parents" yet a crucial parent is missing - the country. I have rectified by by adding Category:Emigration by country which reflects the true scope of the categories - "by country", not "by nationality / ethic". Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:15, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Emigration by country contained only Category:American emigration, Category:Chinese emigration and the few similarly named until a few hours ago, when spurious additions were made. Long live the demonym. Oculi (talk) 13:09, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Governors of Netherlands New Guinea
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Dutch colonial governors and administrators and Category:History of Western New Guinea and Category:Netherlands New Guinea people and Category:Politics of Dutch New Guinea. The last of these has already been renamed to the "Dutch New Guinea" convention. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:28, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Governors of Netherlands New Guinea to Category:Dutch colonial governors and administrators, Category:History of Western New Guinea, Category:Netherlands New Guinea people and Category:Politics of Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose merging Category:Members of the New Guinea Council to Category:New Guinea Council and Category:Netherlands New Guinea people
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 of the 6 Governors listed at Dutch_New_Guinea#Governors has an article, and only 1 Member of the NG Council. – Fayenatic London 15:28, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. After that everything should be renamed to use 'Dutch New Guinea' as Netherlands New Guinea is a redirect. Oculi (talk) 21:28, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 17:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Years in Netherlands New Guinea
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- The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:46, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:1943 in Netherlands New Guinea to Category:1943 in the Dutch Empire and Category:1943 in Southeast Asia
- Propose merging Category:1955 establishments in Netherlands New Guinea to Category:1955 establishments in the Dutch Empire and Category:1955 establishments in Southeast Asia
- Propose merging Category:1961 establishments in Netherlands New Guinea to Category:1961 establishments in the Dutch Empire and Category:1961 establishments in Southeast Asia
- Propose merging Category:1961 in Netherlands New Guinea to Category:1961 in the Dutch Empire and Category:1961 in Southeast Asia
- Propose merging Category:1962 in Netherlands New Guinea to Category:1962 in the Dutch Empire and Category:1962 in Southeast Asia
- Propose deleting Category:1955 in Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose deleting Category:1950s establishments in Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose deleting Category:1960s establishments in Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose deleting Category:1940s in Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose deleting Category:1950s in Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose deleting Category:1960s in Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose deleting Category:Years of the 20th century in Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose deleting Category:20th-century establishments in Netherlands New Guinea
- Propose deleting Category:Establishments in Netherlands New Guinea by year
- Propose deleting Category:Establishments in Netherlands New Guinea by decade
- Propose deleting Category:Decades in Netherlands New Guinea
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCATs. The articles are in the main NNG category or its Organizations or Politics sub-cats. If not merged/deleted, all should be renamed using "Dutch New Guinea". – Fayenatic London 15:23, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Yugoslav emigrants
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 4#Category:Yugoslav emigrants
Category:West German emigrants
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 4#Category:West German emigrants
Category:Ukrainian SSR emigrants
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 6#Category:Ukrainian SSR emigrants
Category:Rhodesian emigrants
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 4#Category:Rhodesian emigrants
Category:Tibetan emigrants
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 4#Category:Tibetan emigrants
Terrorist incidents in Kazakhstan
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- The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:25, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Terrorist incidents in Kazakhstan by year (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose merging Category:Terrorist incidents in Kazakhstan in 2011 to Category:2011 disasters in Kazakhstan, Category:2011 crimes in Kazakhstan and Category:Terrorist incidents in Asia in 2011
- Propose merging Category:Terrorist incidents in Kazakhstan in 2016 to Category:2016 disasters in Kazakhstan, Category:2016 crimes in Kazakhstan, Category:Terrorist incidents in Kazakhstan and Category:Terrorist incidents in Asia in 2016
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Note: do not need to merge 2011 into Category:Terrorist incidents in Kazakhstan since it is already in Category:Suicide bombings in Kazakhstan. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Rulers of Crete
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 26#Category:Rulers of Crete
Category:Medieval Frisian rulers
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Medieval Frisian nobility. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:49, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Medieval Frisian rulers to Category:Medieval Frisian nobility
- Nominator's rationale: More defining than "rulers". Since we are talking about East Frisian chieftains, margraves, counts, dukes and potestaats, and only some early medieval "dukes" (usually called dux in source texts) are sometimes claimed to be "kings" (especially by Frisian nationalists), I don't think "monarchs" is appropriate in this case. The Potestaat of Friesland was also probably not a hereditary position, but an appointed governorship, yet all potestaats were noblemen. "nobility" fits best. If we need to remove the potestaats from the tree, that's fine. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Rename, this is a container category, "nobility" is a better overarching term for the various subcategories than "rulers". Marcocapelle (talk) 16:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Soviet emigrants
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 8#Category:Soviet emigrants
Category:Kingdom of Serbia emigrants
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 26#Category:Kingdom of Serbia emigrants
Category:Mandatory Palestine emigrants
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 26#Category:Mandatory Palestine emigrants
Category:Kingdom of Hanover emigrants
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:48, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per form of the parent Category:Emigrants from former countries. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:20, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per Category:People from the Kingdom of Hanover. The (single) subcat should also be renamed. Oculi (talk) 14:00, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:08, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- These are unopposed speedies: WP:C2C per parent Category:People from the Kingdom of Hanover. Oculi (talk) 11:16, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:08, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Historicist architecture in Bremen (city)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Historicist architecture in Germany. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:25, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT with only 1 page. The only other architectural sub-cat of Category:Buildings and structures in Bremen (city) is Renaissance, which with 6 pages is more worthwhile. – Fayenatic London 12:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:27, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom --Lenticel (talk) 01:28, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Rulers of Provence
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Category:Rulers of Montenegro
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 03:21, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Rulers of Montenegro to Category:Monarchs of Montenegro
- Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D List of monarchs of Montenegro. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:39, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- It is not a case of WP:C2D because the list was recently moved without discussion. But support nomination anyway because monarchs is correct and more to the point than rulers. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- The argument by which I made the move was: "They were all monarchs. Even the prince-bishops are labelled monarchs everywhere." All subcategories are also about monarchs (some were recently renamed by consensus). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 17:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Czechoslovak emigrants
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Category:Congress Poland emigrants
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Congress Poland emigrants. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:36, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Congress Poland emigrants to Category:Emigrants from Congress Poland
- Nominator's rationale: Per form of parent category Category:Emigrants from former countries. Strictly speaking, "Congress Poland" is just an informal description of the country. But it's the most common form. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:30, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support- per Category:People from Congress Poland. Oculi (talk) 13:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is an unopposed speedy under WP:C2C (per Category:People from Congress Poland) and could have been closed after 2 days. (See Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion#Applying_speedy_criteria_in_full_discussions.) Oculi (talk) 11:11, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Pre-Confederation Canadian emigrants
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per form of parent Category:Emigrants from former countries. Plus "Pre-Confederation" needs to be disambiguated. Should it be capitalised since it's just a description, not a title? Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:28, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose- the parent is Category:People of pre-Confederation Canada, Category:Pre-Confederation Canada, so it should follow that for now. Oculi (talk) 14:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Colony of Natal emigrants
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Looks like the category and its subcateegory were emptied out of process. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:38, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Colony of Natal emigrants to Category:Emigrants from Natal Colony
- Nominator's rationale: Per form of parent Category:Emigrants from former countries. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- If renamed, this should be to Category:Emigrants from the Natal Colony per siblings in Category:Colony of Natal. – Fayenatic London 12:28, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that ALT. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - there are only 3 articles in the subcat: Maria Bird, Thomas Gange, J. Cecil Maby and they all left the colony for the UK in infancy and should thus be removed. (Place of birth is not defining, British people moving around in the British Empire is not defining.) Categories are not a travel itinerary. For the record it is Category:Colony of Natal people. Oculi (talk) 14:31, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Cape Colony emigrants
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. I'll buy the argument about C2C, as there is no claim of ambiguity. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:40, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Cape Colony emigrants to Category:Emigrants from Cape Colony
- Nominator's rationale: Per form of parent Category:Emigrants from former countries. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comments: The "Cape Colony" prefix format was just chosen at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Cape Colony people, and the nationality is consistently used at the beginning of category names within the grandparent Category:Emigrants by nationality. If renamed, this should be to Category:Emigrants from the Cape Colony per siblings in Category:Cape Colony. – Fayenatic London 12:34, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that ALT. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - the others follow the format of the 'people' category, which in this case is Category:Cape Colony people; by all means nominate Category:Cape Colony people first. Oculi (talk) 13:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Correction at most 20 out of 72 members of Category:Emigrants from former countries use the demonym; the remainder use the form "Emigrants from Foo to Bar". Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:44, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Those are the ones where the people category uses 'People from Foo'. It's easy: 'foo people' implies 'foo emigrants', 'fooian people' implies 'fooian emigrants', 'people from/of foo' implies 'emigrants from/of foo' (resp). Anything else is contrary to WP:C2C. Some have been wrongly named, certainly. (In categories, the local convention is followed rather than the global pattern, so the majority at Category:Emigrants from former countries is irrelevant.) Oculi (talk) 19:05, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Correction at most 20 out of 72 members of Category:Emigrants from former countries use the demonym; the remainder use the form "Emigrants from Foo to Bar". Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:44, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Austro-Hungarian emigrants
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- The result of the discussion was: speedy renamed out of process. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Austro-Hungarian emigrants to Category:Emigrants from Austria-Hungary
- Nominator's rationale: Per form of the parent Category:Emigrants from former countries. Inappropriate for multi-ethnic empires. Down with the tyranny of demonyms. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:23, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per Category:People from Austria-Hungary. Oculi (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is an unopposed speedy under WP:C2C. Oculi (talk) 11:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Austrian Empire emigrants
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Emigrants from the Austrian Empire. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Austrian Empire emigrants to Category:Emigrants from the Austrian Empire
- Nominator's rationale: Per form of the parent Category:Emigrants from former countries. Inappropriate for multi-ethnic empires. Down with the tyranny of demonyms. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per Category:People from the Austrian Empire. Oculi (talk) 14:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is an unopposed speedy under WP:C2C. Oculi (talk) 11:13, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Duchesses of Milan
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- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Duchesses of Milan to Category:Consorts of Milan;
- Propose re-parenting from Category:Rulers of Milan to Category:Consorts of monarchs and Category:Nobility from Milan
- Propose adding all "Ladies of Milan" from List of Milanese consorts#Lady of Milan
- Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D List of Milanese consorts. All Duchesses and Ladies of Milan were consorts, and not "regnant". See the "Category:Rulers of Milan" CfR for background discussions between Marcocapelle and me. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 18:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- We previously discussed a separate Category:Ladies of Milan and I guess that is still the better idea, not so much for the ladies themselves, but for the duchesses who can then stay in the duchesses tree. Surely both the ladies and the duchesses should become part of Category:Nobility from Milan. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:04, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough. We can do that without renaming the category. List of Milanese consorts would remain the main article and we ignore C2D in this case. I'll BOLDly carry it out right now. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- We previously discussed a separate Category:Ladies of Milan and I guess that is still the better idea, not so much for the ladies themselves, but for the duchesses who can then stay in the duchesses tree. Surely both the ladies and the duchesses should become part of Category:Nobility from Milan. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:04, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 18:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Withdrawal @Marcocapelle and I agreed on a different solution that does not require renaming, and that I've just carried out. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:44, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:2011 African U-23 Championship players
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:23, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:2011 African U-23 Championship players (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2015 Africa U-23 Cup of Nations players (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2019 Africa U-23 Cup of Nations players (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2014 Caribbean Cup players (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: These categories are for non-defining characteristics. The 'players at international tournament' categories are typically only created for major events, such as Category:FIFA World Cup players and Category:UEFA European Championship players. The following categories are for the U-23 Africa Cup of Nations, a youth tournament, and the Caribbean Cup, a championship of a subregional confederation. This is not a high enough level to warrant a category, and would cause way too many categories to be used on player articles if one was created for every youth/regional championship. S.A. Julio (talk) 10:33, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 10:35, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:38, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 18:44, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete all as per nom, and previous discussions were we've deleted youth international categories like this e.g. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 18#Category:2009 CONCACAF U-20 Championship players. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:42, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Presidents of the Japan Pro-Footballers Association
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:23, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Does not appear to be a particularly useful categorization. No article exists on the topic, and five of the seven articles in the category do not even mention the person's role with this organization. S.A. Julio (talk) 10:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 18:44, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:NOTDEFINING. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:49, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Merited Coaches of Tajikistan
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:23, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: No article on this topic exists, and the category only contains two pages. Per WP:OCAWARD, I don't think receiving this award is a defining characteristic for the category members. S.A. Julio (talk) 10:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 10:20, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:36, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 18:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:OCAWARD and WP:SMALLCAT. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delte per WP:OCAWARD. Note that we deleted a similar category for Belarus right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:51, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Istro-Romanian people
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Istro-Romanians. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:22, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose upmerging Category:Istro-Romanian people to Category:Istro-Romanians
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT 0 C, 1 P. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:06, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Reluctant support as it is fair logic. Super Ψ Dro 13:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:40, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:The Amazing Race Canada contestants
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:22, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Celebrities appearing on television shows are performances and thus this is nothing more than a WP:PERFCAT. --woodensuperman 09:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:41, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete I'm sympathetic that categories are defining for reality TV shows that take unknown people and make them famous because 1 cat doesn't create clutter. But, here, all 5 of the articles I read through were already celebrities when they came on the show so this isn't defining per WP:PERFCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:55, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Eastern Romance people in Greece
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Aromanians in Greece. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:22, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose downmerging Category:Eastern Romance people in Greece to Category:Aromanians in Greece
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT 1 C, 0 P. Unsure whether to maintain parent Category:Eastern Romance people, see CfR in question which calls for renaming it to "Vlachs", which is the common Greek name for Aromanians in Greece, even though Vlachs stopped self-identifying as "Vlachs" from the 16th century. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:26, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. However the explanation about the self-identification on the "Vlachs" given by the nom is erroneous. It is a more complex topic which doesn't warrant an explanation here. Super Ψ Dro 13:20, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Downmerge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:42, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Eastern Romance people
edit Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 26#Category:Eastern Romance people
Category:Romance peoples
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- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 16:46, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: See precedent "Germanic ethnic groups". This cat is not based on ethnicity, but on majority native language of nationalities. WP:OCEGRS Having a native language that belongs to a certain language family is WP:NONDEFINING for an individual's career. I'll deal with Category:Eastern Romance people in a separate nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 08:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- PS: The Category:Eastern Romance people seems a little more complicated than I thought. We may wish to pause or withdraw this nom for now to enable a step-by-step bottom-up process to ensure no mistakes will be made. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Withdraw for now I made a mistake as nom; I've started too high up the category tree. To avoid making the nominations dependent on each other, I can't run this one yet, but my rationale still stands. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:29, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Ministry of International Trade and Industry (Malaysia)
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Category:Fictional machine hunters
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:20, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category made by a banned sock account, "machine hunter" is largely an arbitrary judgement of original research compared to simply "hunter". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:20, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Fiction with alternate endings
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Category:Video games with downloadable content
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:18, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:NONDEF. Having DLC does not define a game, and it is usually released far later and isn't even factored into reviews of the game in question. Video games and their DLC are typically reviewed separately. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Non-defining category, especially since DLC is so common nowadays. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:58, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Victoria (Australia)
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename all except Category:Victoria cricketers. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Victoria (Australia) to Category:Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Victoria (Australia)-related lists to Category:Victoria (state)-related lists
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of buildings and structures in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Lists of buildings and structures in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of schools in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Lists of schools in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of biota of Victoria (Australia) to Category:Lists of biota of Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of people educated in Victoria (Australia) by school affiliation to Category:Lists of people educated in Victoria (state) by school affiliation
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of people from Victoria (Australia) to Category:Lists of people from Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of local government leaders of places in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Lists of local government leaders of places in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of tourist attractions in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Lists of tourist attractions in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Buildings and structures in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Architecture in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Architecture in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Art Deco architecture in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Art Deco architecture in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Italianate architecture in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Italianate architecture in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Victorian architecture in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Victorian architecture in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Astronomical observatories in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Astronomical observatories in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Big things in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Big things in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Cemeteries in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Cemeteries in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Burials in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Burials in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Commercial buildings in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Commercial buildings in Victoria (state)
- Propose renaming Category:Office buildings in Victoria (Australia) to Category:Office buildings in Victoria (state)
- Nominator's rationale: Per rename of main article Victoria (Australia) -> Victoria (state). Also fixes a few inconsistent category names. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Only one I've spotted that I'd question is Category:Victorian (Australia) architects due to the atypical composition of the existing tile, which IMO should have been Category:Architects from Victoria (Australia), and therefore would be replaced by Category:Architects from Victoria (state). There is also a bit of doubt in my mind about Category:Victoria cricketers as this is for players who have played for the state representative team, rather than the geographical demonym category (i.e Category:Cricketers from Victoria (Australia)) and ideally should match the article, which is simply Victoria cricket team. It also matches the others at Category:Players in Australian domestic cricket by team, although I'd agree that it's not particularly clear and could maybe do with some kind of adjustment...? Crowsus (talk) 00:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah those were the main ones; it's fine if you'd like to modify those or remove them. I don't like disambiguating "Victorian" is all; if you want to resolve that some other way that's fine. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:13, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I got pulled into this talk from Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Victoria. Not sure where that would be confused with. It’s already in Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Australia. QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 15:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Only one I've spotted that I'd question is Category:Victorian (Australia) architects due to the atypical composition of the existing tile, which IMO should have been Category:Architects from Victoria (Australia), and therefore would be replaced by Category:Architects from Victoria (state). There is also a bit of doubt in my mind about Category:Victoria cricketers as this is for players who have played for the state representative team, rather than the geographical demonym category (i.e Category:Cricketers from Victoria (Australia)) and ideally should match the article, which is simply Victoria cricket team. It also matches the others at Category:Players in Australian domestic cricket by team, although I'd agree that it's not particularly clear and could maybe do with some kind of adjustment...? Crowsus (talk) 00:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note Added friendly format fix given the number of categories. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per WP:C2D. I would have iVoted differently in the RM, but I don't want to second guess a consensus from another venues. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support, just follow the outcome of the RM. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:51, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:06, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose one the cricket team category is referring to Victoria cricket team, not the state, and [[:Category: <Team name> cricketers]] is the standard way of doing this. No objections to the rest, as long as they refer to the state and not sports teams of the same name. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:52, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Feel free to remove that one from the nomination, if you'd like. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:10, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Two categories that have a typo in it
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- The result of the discussion was: speedily deleted WP:G7. – Fayenatic London 12:24, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- These two categories were accidentally created and have a typo in them. Can they be removed? Category:Canadian women eduators and Category:Vanuatan women activists. Many thanks, already. - User:Kjell Knudde 26/04/2023. (18:40).
- Use {{db-author}}. Oculi (talk) 00:08, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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