Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 2
February 2
editCategory:Geography of the United States by populated place
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Geography of the United States by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Geography of the United States by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Geography of the United States by town (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Geography of the United States by populated place
- Nominator's rationale: Not a useful way to divide geography of populated places in the US. Geography is not affected by the legal definition (city, town, village, etc.) of a place. Merge both to Category:Geography of the United States by populated place –Aidan721 (talk) 23:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, and per recent precedent to move cities, towns and villages to populated places. There are only a few towns subcategories anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom Mason (talk) 06:03, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:University of Pennsylvania Graduate Division School of Arts & Sciences alumni
editCategory:Armorials of Russia
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Armorials of Russia to Category:Russian coats of arms
- Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 25#Category:Armorials of the Netherlands, in which this was listed but never tagged or processed. . * Pppery * it has begun... 21:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Armorials of Finland
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 25#Category:Armorials of the Netherlands, in which this was listed but never tagged or processed. The sole entry is already in all relevant parents so a merge is not needed. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Franklin Athletic Club football seasons
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 01:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category Let'srun (talk) 02:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Let'srun: which Athletic Club does the target refer to? We only have Athletic club as a disambiguation page. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Franklin Athletic Club Let'srun (talk) 00:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Let'srun: you may have misunderstood my question. Obviously Category:Franklin Athletic Club football seasons refers to Franklin Athletic Club, but which Athletic Club does Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons refer to? Did it exist at all? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- I share the same skepticism as Marcocapelle. Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons seems to be a miscellaneous category of teams. What is Athletic Club football? –Aidan721 (talk) 17:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons is indeed weird, and the capitalization is confusing. Parent Category:Athletics clubs in the United States (uncapitalized) seems to indicate that this is just synonymous with sports club, in which case the former category seems to have been created with the intent of gathering clubs named Athletic Club but who have nothing in common (WP:SHAREDNAME). I suggest splitting Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons between Category:American football team seasons/Category:College football seasons by team and Category:Athletic clubs in the United States/Category:Sports clubs and teams in the United States. Some of the Athletic Clubs in this category don't apparently have anything to do with football, e.g. Detroit Athletic Club. Place Clichy (talk) 02:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons is definitely a messy category. The C in club should certainly not be capitalized. Also it's a messy grouping of articles about athletic clubs that played football and articles about specific seasons played by such clubs. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe Deleting with WP:TNT is an option, then, unless a good Samaritan volunteers to review the football- and non-football-related content and spread them among the possible target categories, of which I already listed 4. We can assume that articles are already somewhere under Category:Sports clubs and teams in the United States by state. Place Clichy (talk) 21:49, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons is definitely a messy category. The C in club should certainly not be capitalized. Also it's a messy grouping of articles about athletic clubs that played football and articles about specific seasons played by such clubs. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons is indeed weird, and the capitalization is confusing. Parent Category:Athletics clubs in the United States (uncapitalized) seems to indicate that this is just synonymous with sports club, in which case the former category seems to have been created with the intent of gathering clubs named Athletic Club but who have nothing in common (WP:SHAREDNAME). I suggest splitting Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons between Category:American football team seasons/Category:College football seasons by team and Category:Athletic clubs in the United States/Category:Sports clubs and teams in the United States. Some of the Athletic Clubs in this category don't apparently have anything to do with football, e.g. Detroit Athletic Club. Place Clichy (talk) 02:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Franklin Athletic Club Let'srun (talk) 00:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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- The target is now discussed at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_1#Category:Athletic_Club_football_teams_and_seasons. If it is deleted then this discussion changes from merge to delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete unless the target is kept. If so, merge as nominated. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Noblesville Athletic Club football seasons
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 01:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category Let'srun (talk) 02:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Which Athletic Club does the target refer to? We only have Athletic club as a disambiguation page. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- It doesn't to any specific one, from my understanding. Let'srun (talk) 21:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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- The target is now discussed at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_1#Category:Athletic_Club_football_teams_and_seasons. If it is deleted then this discussion changes from merge to delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete unless the target is kept. If so, merge as nominated. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:26, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Partial satellite launch failures
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Satellite launch anomalies. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Partial satellite launch failures to Category:Satellite launch partial failures
- Nominator's rationale: This is for partial failures among satellite launches. Parent is Category:Satellite launch failures. I am open to other suggestions. – Fayenatic London 21:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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- @Fayenatic london: a few articles refer to a launch "anomaly" so we might rename the category to Category:Satellite launch anomalies. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- No objection to this alternative. In that case we should use "see also" links in both directions rather than parenting in Category:Satellite launch failures. – Fayenatic London 11:48, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- support either Category:Satellite launch anomalies Or Category:Satellite launch partial successes. (sdsds - talk) 02:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- See also the list of 262 transclusions at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Partial_failure. These are potential candidates for this category. (sdsds - talk) 02:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Medieval European scribes
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- The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 23:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Medieval European scribes to Category:Medieval scribes
- Nominator's rationale: There's no need to narrow this category to only European scribes. The sibling category, "Category:Ancient scribes" doesn't constrain themselves to a single continent. Mason (talk) 01:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- In fact Category:Ancient scribes contains only Egyptian, Greek and Near-Eastern subcats, so is "constrained" to the Mediterranean. Johnbod (talk) 18:15, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- It isn't constrained, someone could still be added to the main category of Ancient scribe if they were from somewhere outside the mediterranean. But "Medieval European scribe", does not allow someone from medieval egypt to be added. Mason (talk) 02:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- In fact Category:Ancient scribes contains only Egyptian, Greek and Near-Eastern subcats, so is "constrained" to the Mediterranean. Johnbod (talk) 18:15, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose They are in fact all European, & there is no harm in helping the reader by saying so. Other traditions are in the extensive tree under Category:Medieval calligraphers. Btw, the Irish ones (nearly all authors who wrote out their own books) represent about 50% of 80-odd in the category, & should have their own sub-cat. Johnbod (talk) 03:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- But is european+medieval scribe a meaningful intersection? I don't see how it helps readers to exclude non-european medieval scribes. Mason (talk) 19:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- One might drop the "medieval", as there are no "scribes" in Europe after the Renaissance, and "medieval" is not a term that works or is used for eg East Asia. Or one might drop "European" for that reason, but hoiw does that help anyone? The current category is a useful definition of a distinct tradition & function. Johnbod (talk) 18:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Which scribes are being excluded? I see Category:Calligraphers of the medieval Islamic world, which could possibly contain articles that would fit "Medieval scribes". Those ones, at least, seem pretty discoverable where they are. Are there others? -- asilvering (talk) 01:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- But is european+medieval scribe a meaningful intersection? I don't see how it helps readers to exclude non-european medieval scribes. Mason (talk) 19:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Just delete, per WP:OVERLAPCAT, articles are already in a more specific branch of the tree of Category:Medieval writers or in Category:Medieval calligraphers. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nonsense - scribes should not be in a "writers" category at all, unless they clearly did both (as authors or translators), which very many did not. I don't think you actually looked at Category:Medieval calligraphers; it consists entirely of by-century subcats, each containing only a Chinese, Japanese and Korean sub-cat. So there is no OVERLAP at all with this category! Johnbod (talk) 18:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: I am not sure why writers should be limited to authors and translators. According to whom? The articles of this category just factually are in another writers subcategory, so apparently there is consensus that scribes is also a subset of writers. With respect to calligraphers, I found David Aubert in Category:Medieval European scribes but he was not yet in the Category:Medieval calligraphers tree, I added this article there just now. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- And I reverted you! You didn't even put him in a century sub-cat! He was left as the only entry outside one, and the only European in that whole tree. What RS do you have that call him a calligrapher? It is not a term used of Medieval European scribes, hence the diffferent categories. The aim of medieval scribing was to produce a clear and accurate text in a variety of very tightly-defined scripts; once printed type could do this more reliably the scribing industry mostly vanished at the top end, just leaving scriveners for legal work etc. This is very different from other cultures where artistic calligraphy was and is pursued. It is clear from the cats above that the "writers" tree is for authors, to which the many translators can be added - Aubert was a translator and adapter of texts, so he is rightly there. Johnbod (talk) 19:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: I am not sure why writers should be limited to authors and translators. According to whom? The articles of this category just factually are in another writers subcategory, so apparently there is consensus that scribes is also a subset of writers. With respect to calligraphers, I found David Aubert in Category:Medieval European scribes but he was not yet in the Category:Medieval calligraphers tree, I added this article there just now. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nonsense - scribes should not be in a "writers" category at all, unless they clearly did both (as authors or translators), which very many did not. I don't think you actually looked at Category:Medieval calligraphers; it consists entirely of by-century subcats, each containing only a Chinese, Japanese and Korean sub-cat. So there is no OVERLAP at all with this category! Johnbod (talk) 18:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Speaking as a topic expert here, I find little to disagree with in Johnbod's comments. Scribes are not necessarily calligraphers, and they are certainly not usefully categorized as "writers". We could change the category to "Medieval scribes" broadly; this is how many works in the field describe them. But these works omit "European" typically because it is assumed, not because they mean to include scribes who were not European. We could use the term most often used in palaeography ("Latin"), but I believe this will be unhelpfully confusing to the typical Wikipedia user. -- asilvering (talk) 01:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Why relist this? There are no supports at all, apart from the nom, and he seems less sure of his case now. Johnbod (talk) 04:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: when I wrote "I am not sure" I said I was not sure about your response. And you haven't answered my question why scribes need to be excluded from writers. "It is clear from the cats above that the "writers" tree is for authors," -> No that is not clear, in fact categories above have nothing to do with the question. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't mean you - you are not the nom and not supporting the proposal anyway. Authoring and copying are two very different activities - you might as well categorize scriveners and court reporters as judges. I have explained why your suggestion to delete (also with no other support) is based on more than one misunderstanding. Imo too many discussions are being rolled-over ad infinitum.asilvering, are you actually a "Keep"? Johnbod (talk) 14:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnbod I don't particularly care either way, but I guess that's a weak keep. -- asilvering (talk) 15:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- I guess you are - thanks! Caring is optional at Cfd. Johnbod (talk) 15:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't misgender me. @Johnbod. And I don't understand what your opposition is to making the category broader.Mason (talk) 20:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- I guess you are - thanks! Caring is optional at Cfd. Johnbod (talk) 15:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't mean you - you are not the nom and not supporting the proposal anyway. Authoring and copying are two very different activities - you might as well categorize scriveners and court reporters as judges. I have explained why your suggestion to delete (also with no other support) is based on more than one misunderstanding. Imo too many discussions are being rolled-over ad infinitum.asilvering, are you actually a "Keep"? Johnbod (talk) 14:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:19th-century Kazakhstani people
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Kazakh people from the Russian Empire * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: merge, largely overlapping categories, and Khazakstan did not exist yet. The category does not contain articles about Kazakh people before the Russian Empire ruled the area. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:08, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Alt rename/merge to Category:Kazakh people from the Russian Empire, as for siblings in Category:People from the Russian Empire by ethnic or national origin. Note that Kazakh refers to the ethnicity, while Kazakhstani refers to people from Kazakhstan regardless of ethnicity. Place Clichy (talk) 01:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- For renaming the target (which I agree with) see follow-up nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: the discussion about the target category closed. The decision was: rename to Category:Kazakh people from the Russian Empire. Hence it seems that we converge towards a merge there. Place Clichy (talk) 19:40, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Firelighting using electricity
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge all to Category:Firelighting (which was renamed to Category:Fire making while this discussion was open) * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: best to treat these as an article. And I am usually pro-categories!!n. 121.98.204.148 (talk) 23:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge this category in addition to Category:Firelighting using friction and Category:Firelighting using percussion to Category:Firelighting. They seem like WP:NARROWCATs for an otherwise small topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm, could you tag those cats and and them here? Qwerfjkltalk 21:40, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:19th-century mayors of places in Oklahoma
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename as nominated, no consensus to delete Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians (without prejudice to a new nomination focusing solely on deleting it). * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Oklahoma did not exist before 1907 so there are no 19th century mayors of places in Oklahoma. There are 19th-century mayors of places in Oklahoma Territory and Indian Territory TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 00:06, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, and its parent category Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians should be considered for renaming for the same rationale.--TommyBoy (talk) 22:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. And tagging Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians below per TommyBoy.
- Propose renaming Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians to Category:19th-century Indian Territory politicians –Aidan721 (talk) 14:28, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support original nom, keeping a redirect, but delete Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians and its parent Category:19th-century American politicians by state or territory as unnecessary layers. The mayors category has two other suitable parents about mayors. – Fayenatic London 16:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- I note that Category:Republic of Hawaii politicians has been added – they were C19, but not (yet) American. So still delete that parent. – Fayenatic London 11:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians to Category:19th-century Indian Territory politicians –Aidan721 (talk) 14:28, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_29#Category:19th-century_people_from_Oklahoma. – Fayenatic London 15:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians?
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Category:Phytogeographers
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- The result of the discussion was: Manual merge (@Smasongarrison:) * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:British phytogeographers (0) to Category:Phytogeographers and Category:British botanists and Category:British geographers
- Propose merging Category:French phytogeographers (0) to Category:Phytogeographers and Category:French geographers and Category:French botanists
- Propose merging Category:Chilean phytogeographers (0) to Category:Phytogeographers and Category:Chilean botanists and Category:Chilean geographers
- Propose merging Category:Russian phytogeographers (0) to Category:Phytogeographers and Category:Russian geographers and Category:Russian botanists
- Propose merging Category:Dutch phytogeographers (0) to Category:Phytogeographers and Category:Dutch botanists and Category:Dutch geographers
- Propose merging Category:Swiss phytogeographers (0) to Category:Phytogeographers and Category:Swiss geographers and Category:Swiss botanists
- Propose merging Category:Brazilian phytogeographers (0) to Category:Phytogeographers and Category:Brazilian geographers and Category:Brazilian botanists
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. These are small categories that doesn't need to be diffused by nationality, yet. Mason (talk) 02:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, to the first two targets. "Geographer" does not seem very applicable to many articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- From what I understand, this category is a grandchild of Geographers by specialty, so perhaps manual merge to geographers, when appriopriate? Mason (talk) 23:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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- @Smasongarrison: I don't have an objection to a manual merge. When the discussion is closed would you be willing to check to which articles "geographers" is applicable? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- I can do that. (Can whoever closes ping me to remind me to do it?) Mason (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: I don't have an objection to a manual merge. When the discussion is closed would you be willing to check to which articles "geographers" is applicable? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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Establishment category Indian state
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename Uncontested for two weeks * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate tracking categories (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state tracking categories
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate where PAGESINCATEGORY returns zero (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state where PAGESINCATEGORY returns zero
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate with 1 page (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state with 1 page
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate with 2 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state with 2 pages
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate with 3–5 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state with 3–5 pages
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate with 6–10 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state with 6–10 pages
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate with 11–20 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state with 11–20 pages
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate with 21–50 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state with 21–50 pages
- Propose renaming Category:EstcatIndiastate with more than 50 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Establishment category Indian state with more than 50 pages
- Nominator's rationale: To match {{establishment category Indian state}} (which for transparency I WP:BOLDMOVE'd to its current location from {{estcatIndiastate}} per WP:TPN; that is also why I am avoiding WP:C2D). HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:French Quebecers
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 23:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: French Quebecers constitute the vast majority of Quebec residents and have since the first settlers arrived in the 17th-century. As such, this category fails WP:EGRS. Moreover, most of those in this category have no claim to French ancestry in their biography and have been placed in it without evidence, making it a major problem for WP:BLPCAT. User:Namiba 16:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Probably the same applies to parent Category:Francophone Quebec people. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment French Quebecers are Quebecers who are not Quebecois, but originate more recently from France, thus are not ethnic Quebecois. It should be so scoped, and cleared of pure-laine[1][2], de-souche[3][4][5], who are desceneded from the pre-British conquest with roots in Quebec prior to 1760. Any person descended from France that arrived after 1760 would appear in this category, those who have roots older that this would be removed -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and change according to IP above JM (talk) 23:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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- I may have misunderstood the purpose of the category but then I would like to see sources that support this specific meaning of the term. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I note that there is no Category:Québécois people or similar, so if they are not intended for this category, I don't know where they're meant to be... Grutness...wha? 10:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note, we already have Category:Quebecers of French descent. Anyone with demonstrably French descent can be placed there. There is no purpose for this category otherwise.--User:Namiba 14:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- This whole tree is problematic. This is the (incorrect, IMO) description of Category:Quebecers of French descent: "This category lists Quebecers of French descent who are not francophone or whose first language is unclear. For Quebecers who known to be francophone see Category:French Quebecers."--User:Namiba 14:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note, we already have Category:Quebecers of French descent. Anyone with demonstrably French descent can be placed there. There is no purpose for this category otherwise.--User:Namiba 14:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. It is useless to categorize members of the dominant ethnicity in a place. The difference cited above for recent arrivals from France is reflected by Category:French emigrants to Quebec. Place Clichy (talk) 14:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's not the same, since it doesn't include the descendants of the immigrants to Quebec that would be in that indicated category -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 19:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I just don't get this comment. Note that French Quebecer redirects to disambiguation page Québécois. So either term can refer to, depending on context, any of the following:
- all people of all Québec
- people of Québec City
- the dominant ethnic group associated with descent from the early French settlers
- 20th- or 21st-century moves from France
- descendants of the former
- The IP wrote above that
French Quebecers are Quebecers who are not Quebecois, but originate more recently from France, thus are not ethnic Quebecois
. This contradicts the current 3,500+ articles in the category, which are mostly Québécois people with no recent link to immigration from France. Descendants of recent migrants from France who were born and grew up in Québec are not distinguishable from the Québec majority. - There's no logic to any of it, and as a result people from that group are scattered inconsistently between several categories. Québec people clearly would benefit more from other categorization schemes such as People by populated place in Quebec or People from Quebec by occupation that this pseudo-ethnic category. Place Clichy (talk) 14:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I just don't get this comment. Note that French Quebecer redirects to disambiguation page Québécois. So either term can refer to, depending on context, any of the following:
- That's not the same, since it doesn't include the descendants of the immigrants to Quebec that would be in that indicated category -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 19:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Education by city or town
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Education by city or town (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Education by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Education by country and city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Education by country and populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Schools by country and city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Schools by country and populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Universities and colleges by country and city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Universities and colleges by country and populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Universities by country and city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Universities by country and populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Educational buildings by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational buildings by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Educational organizations by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Educational institutions by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational institutions by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Academic institutions by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Academic institutions by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Research institutes by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Research institutes by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Universities and colleges by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Universities and colleges by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Colleges by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Colleges by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Universities by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Universities by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of universities and colleges by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Lists of universities and colleges by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Schools by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Schools by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:High schools by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:High schools by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:International schools by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:International schools by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Libraries by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Libraries by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Museums by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Museums by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Museums by country and city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Museums by country and populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Art museums and galleries by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Art museums and galleries by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:History museums by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:History museums by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of museums by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Lists of museums by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Zoos by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Zoos by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Educators by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educators by populated place
- Nominator's rationale: "Populated place" is more consistent and inclusive. I intend the applicable sub-categories to be speedied if renamed. Here are some precedents that support this rename:
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_18#Category:Educators_by_nationality_and_city
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_16#Category:Categories_by_town_or_city –Aidan721 (talk) 17:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:06, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom :) Mason (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Sears
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Sears (department store) * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Sears to Category:Sears Holdings
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category, where the only two pages in the newer category could be linked instead of siloed. Mason (talk) 05:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as Sears and Sears Holdings are not the same thing. Sears is a chain of retail stores (+catalogs +e-commerce), as is/was Kmart. Sears Holdings was a corporate structure that held the two chains. Sears stores are now mostly operated by either Grupo Sanborns (90+ stores in Mexico), Transformco (US) and Sears de Guatemala. Kmart stores are now entirely under Transformco. We need to distinguish between Sears as a brand and chain, which should hold most of the content, versus Sears Holdings, which should be limited to holding Sears, Kmart, and any holding company-related articles. Keizers (talk) 14:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok... so how would you feel about renaming Category:Sears to Category:Sears (brand) to help make that distinction clearer? I also think that a concise description in the category page would be extremely helpful. Mason (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not crazy about it, because really, it's about the Sears stores and catalog, not so much the brand (I mean, I understand that it's a brand that is franchised to Transformco, Grupo Sanborns and Homemart, S.A. for Guatemala), but people might understand to be consumer brands like Kenmore, Craftsman, etc. Maybe Sears (department store)? Keizers (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sears (department store) sounds like a good suggestion to me. Then the categories would be more clearly distinguished, and that should help make it clear that the categories are distinct. Mason (talk) 17:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not crazy about it, because really, it's about the Sears stores and catalog, not so much the brand (I mean, I understand that it's a brand that is franchised to Transformco, Grupo Sanborns and Homemart, S.A. for Guatemala), but people might understand to be consumer brands like Kenmore, Craftsman, etc. Maybe Sears (department store)? Keizers (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok... so how would you feel about renaming Category:Sears to Category:Sears (brand) to help make that distinction clearer? I also think that a concise description in the category page would be extremely helpful. Mason (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Convocations of the Mazhilis
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Category:Development of individual fictional characters
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Development of specific works * Pppery * it has begun... 23:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Not sure how many articles used to be here, but a single article does not a category make. This should probably be removed as it is no longer relevant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Category:Development of specific works - I found one additional article for this category (Development of Bugs Bunny). However, that would still be too small of a category. Creating this category, however, would allow it to contain other articles such as Development of the DC Extended Universe, as well as allow it to be a parent to both Category:Production of specific films and Category:Development of specific video games. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Countesses of Barcelona
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- The result of the discussion was: Purge * Pppery * it has begun... 23:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Countesses of Barcelona to Category:Spanish countesses and Category:People from the County of Barcelona
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. This category "lists the Countess consorts of the County of Barcelona, for the regnant Countess of Barcelona see: Category:Counts of Barcelona." Mason (talk) 01:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- At least purge. Most articles are about queens of Aragon. Just keep the articles from the earlier period when Barcelona was fully independent. If merged, only to Category:People from the County of Barcelona, the other target would be anachronistic. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, but purge of Queens of Aragon and Spain. An explanatory head-note is enough for these. When Catalonia was independent, the title was highly defining. Note that they are not usually Category:People from the County of Barcelona anyway. I suppose Princess María de las Mercedes of Bourbon-Two Sicilies is ok. Johnbod (talk) 18:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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LGBT people by sexual orientation and nationality
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- The result of the discussion was: implement the alt merge proposal. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:51, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming:
- Category:American LGBT people by sexual orientation to Category:American LGBT people by identity
- Category:Argentine LGBT people by sexual orientation to Category:Argentine LGBT people by identity
- Category:Australian LGBT people by sexual orientation to Category:Australian LGBT people by identity
- Category:Austrian LGBT people by sexual orientation to Category:Austrian LGBT people by identity
- Nominator's rationale: rename, I am proposing changing this category name to include transgender, non-binary and intersex people in this category. Giovanni 0331 (talk) 19:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Merge and delete instead. Several recent CfDs have reached the consensus that these interleaving “by identity”, “by gender identity”, or “by sexual orientation” category layers are unhelpful, and we have been in the process of getting rid of them. It is much simpler and clearer to have all the LGBTQ+ identity subcategories directly in the parent category, grouped under a sort key. (See Category:LGBT people by religion for an example.)--Trystan (talk) 22:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, the alt merge proposal below is exactly what I had in mind.--Trystan (talk) 17:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge all, "by identity" is too vague and one would expect the subcategories to be in the parent category anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge all per above replies. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:44, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Below is the alt merge proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:02, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American LGBT people by sexual orientation to Category:American LGBT people
- Category:Argentine LGBT people by sexual orientation to Category:Argentine LGBT people
- Category:Australian LGBT people by sexual orientation to Category:Australian LGBT people
- Category:Austrian LGBT people by sexual orientation to Category:Austrian LGBT people
- Support alt merge. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'd support the alt merge. I think that using identity has some potential problematic implications, such as identity implying that orientation is a choice among other things. Mason (talk) 17:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Kirksville Osteopaths football seasons
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- The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 page in category. Let'srun (talk) 20:36, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This was a 30-year college football program; there will be more seasons that are notable and will be created in the future; there is also an accepted categorization scheme that all college football teams with seasons should have categories. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- "potential for growth" is no longer a valid reason to keep. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- And WP:CFB does not make the rules of WP:Categorization. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- What part of that page, specifically, does this violate? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for now. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This was a 30-year college football program; there will be more seasons that are notable and will be created in the future; there is also an accepted categorization scheme that all college football teams with seasons should have categories. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for now per nom, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:35, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
DeleteMerge for nowper nomto Category:Kirksville Osteopaths football. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Amended my response to a merger. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per BeanieFan11. If "potential for growth" is no longer a valid, then that policy needs to change. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- No. WP:SMALLCAT is no longer backed by community consensus. The category can be recreated when a sufficient number of articles exist. For now, it must be merged (see my revision above). –Aidan721 (talk) 05:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note this category now contains two articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- This category now contains three articles. Is that enough to withdraw the nomination? Jweiss11 (talk) 16:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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- I am also ok with the merge as proposed by Aidan721. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:09, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- How many articles do you think are necessary for a category? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Traditionally editors here mention a minimum of five. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jweiss11: and @Cbl62: Would either of you be willing to do one or two more articles on notable Kirksville seasons? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Traditionally editors here mention a minimum of five. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- How many articles do you think are necessary for a category? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Did they have any perfect seasons or seasons with some other extraordinary feature. For smaller programs like the Osteopaths, I've been limiting my season creation work of late to seasons of clear, lasting sigificance. Cbl62 (talk) 20:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Cbl62: Seems they had two undefeated years, albeit a 4–0 1912 and 1–0 1913 – they also had 6–1 seasons in 1916, 1921 and 1927. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- I created 1900 Kirksville Osteopaths football team (played Missouri) and 1921 Kirksville Osteopaths football team (played TCU). We now have five articles in the category. Let'srun, will you withdraw the nomination? Jweiss11 (talk) 18:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Cbl62: Seems they had two undefeated years, albeit a 4–0 1912 and 1–0 1913 – they also had 6–1 seasons in 1916, 1921 and 1927. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Did they have any perfect seasons or seasons with some other extraordinary feature. For smaller programs like the Osteopaths, I've been limiting my season creation work of late to seasons of clear, lasting sigificance. Cbl62 (talk) 20:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as it is now appropriately populated. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Kirksville Osteopaths football coaches
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:11, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 page in category Let'srun (talk) 20:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be merged to Category:College football coaches in the United States? Marcocapelle (talk) 22:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- That category is only for categories of teams' coaches. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's just how it's currently used. That would be a valid reason if it were Category:College football coaches in the United States by team. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:College football coaches in the United States per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- That wouldn't make sense; then we'd have 10,000 coach articles sorted by team, and then a random one in the container cat. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- That is no reason to oppose. The other categories are actively being discussed and can be discussed for merging in the future. However, I think a mass nomination would be beneficial to discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sense is absolutely a valid reason to oppose. Each of these coaches also coached other teams as well, so they'd be listed in the container cat randomly with like ten others while being one of 10,000 others in subcats. It simply makes no sense. Deletion would be more beneficial than disorder, but I still think three is enough to keep this category. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- That is no reason to oppose. The other categories are actively being discussed and can be discussed for merging in the future. However, I think a mass nomination would be beneficial to discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- That wouldn't make sense; then we'd have 10,000 coach articles sorted by team, and then a random one in the container cat. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's just how it's currently used. That would be a valid reason if it were Category:College football coaches in the United States by team. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- That category is only for categories of teams' coaches. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per Marcocapelle. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Category now has 2 articles in it; part of a standard categorization scheme. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Category now has 3 articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 21:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, per Jweiss. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Has multiple articles now. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Fictional tubers
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fictional potatoes. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article/subcategory here that is actually properly categorized, and they're also in another category within the same group. Unnecessarily specific category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Category:Tubers in popular culture - that should be a better name for the category. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- There is not even a Category:Vegetables in popular culture, only a Category:Works about plants; making one specifically for tubers would seem a little overspecific. I'd support a merge to "works about plants" though. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:51, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, there is enough for a category, I just only chose that title to make it clear with Mr. Potato Head being in there. (Oinkers42) (talk) 20:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- There is not even a Category:Vegetables in popular culture, only a Category:Works about plants; making one specifically for tubers would seem a little overspecific. I'd support a merge to "works about plants" though. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:51, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Category:Tubers in popular culture - that should be a better name for the category. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Five articles is enough to keep this as worthwhile for navigation. But "tubers" is unnecessarily wide in scope, as the contents are all about potatoes in fiction, not other tubers e.g. yam. List of fictional plants has an entry identifying Tree-of-Life as like yam, also stated in that series' main article Known Space, although the detailed section Pak_Protector#Tree-of-Life does not mention yam. Rename to Category:Fictional potatoes. – Fayenatic London 10:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 17:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Fictional potatoes per Fayenatic london. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Fictional potatoes per FL. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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Druze people by nationality
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:American Druze to Category:American Druze people
- Propose renaming Category:Argentine Druze to Category:Argentine Druze people
- Propose renaming Category:Egyptian Druze to Category:Egyptian Druze people
- Propose renaming Category:Israeli Druze to Category:Israeli Druze people
- Propose renaming Category:Jordanian Druze to Category:Jordanian Druze people
- Propose renaming Category:Lebanese Druze to Category:Lebanese Druze people
- Propose renaming Category:Syrian Druze to Category:Syrian Druze people
- Propose renaming Category:Venezuelan Druze to Category:Venezuelan Druze people
- Nominator's rationale: the intent is to make it clearer that these categories are for individual people, and not topic categories, per WP:SEPARATE. Categories named with adjectives are always ambiguous. Place Clichy (talk) 15:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom, they are clearly used as biography categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom and Marco Mason (talk) 02:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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Energy industry in North Rhine-Westphalia
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Energy industry in North Rhine-Westphalia
- Propose deleting Category:Power stations in North Rhine-Westphalia
- Nominator's rationale: merge, neither of the parent categories are diffused by state level. Merging is not needed, the articles already are in appropriate subcategories of Category:Energy industry in Germany and Category:Power stations in Germany respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 15:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Interdenominational Churches
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Interdenominational Churches to Category:Christian ecumenical churches
- Nominator's rationale: As per parent category Category:Christian ecumenical organizations Gjs238 (talk) 13:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just delete, ecumenical organizations are a thing (they advocate unity or cooperation between denominations), but ecumenical churches do not exist. The two articles are about parishes which are affiliated with two denominations, they can be categorized by these two denominations. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. As I've read once on the dedicated article, interdenominational is an Evangelical Protestant denomination. Place Clichy (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as suggested above. Gjs238 (talk) 14:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Formula 1 (board game)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only contains the epon page and 4 images that are used on the page. It's not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:45, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:41, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Coaster games
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Coaster games to Category:Tabletop games
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:South African people of Hispanic descent
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only two quite unrelated categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:57, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
MergeDelete. Good catch! Place Clichy (talk) 10:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)- Support per nom Mason (talk) 13:06, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy: I assume you mean delete? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: Yes, that's probably what I meant. Place Clichy (talk) 14:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:South African people of West Indian descent
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:South African people of Caribbean descent. There is no consensus on Mason's additional proposal, with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:49, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of an older, better parented, category. Place Clichy (talk) 09:27, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. And I propose renaming the following per parent Category:European people of Caribbean descent Mason (talk) 13:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Welsh people of West Indian descent to Category:Welsh people of Caribbean descent
- Propose renaming Category:English people of West Indian descent to Category:English people of Caribbean descent
- Propose renaming Category:British people of West Indian descent to Category:British people of Caribbean descent
- I had noticed these three too. They might be a matter of WP:ENGVAR though, I am not sure about it. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:45, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: I believe indeed that West Indies has a specific meaning in the British context, which does not equate with the entire Caribbean region. See: British West Indies, West Indies Federation, West Indies cricket team etc. Place Clichy (talk) 15:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- I had noticed these three too. They might be a matter of WP:ENGVAR though, I am not sure about it. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:45, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Leaning towards Oppose the rename of the latter three. West Indies is a commonly used description of the island nations of the Caribbean. I'm unaware of any sub-categories of Caribbean nations that aren't in the West Indies. Sionk (talk) 00:36, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- The West Indies has serious colonial undertones, and is derived from the misconception that these were islands off the coast of India. It isn't a neutral descriptive. Per British West Indies's lead paragraph: "Before the decolonisation period in the later 1950s and 1960s, 'British West Indies' was regularly used to include all British colonies in the region as part of the British Empire. Following the independence of most of the territories from the United Kingdom, the term Commonwealth Caribbean is now used." Mason (talk) 02:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Names by culture
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- The result of the discussion was: Split * Pppery * it has begun... 23:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Names by culture to Category:Names by country
- Nominator's rationale: Based on the content these are categorized by country, not culture Mason (talk) 05:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Not all content is by country though. Create Category:Names by country next to Category:Names by culture, and possibly rename Category:Names by culture to Category:Names by language for the remnants. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Find by me, although I suspect that the subcategories by culture have similar problems Mason (talk) 13:40, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support. I support moving categories about names, given names and surnames to a structure based on 1°) continent/country and 2°) language, with the very few categories that cannot be associated with either (like Jewish names or Sikh names) directly in the root category. Place Clichy (talk) 19:47, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy: for clarity, which proposal do you support? (please ping on reply)HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:36, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- I support User:Marcocapelle's proposition above to split the current Category:Names by culture into Category:Names by country and Category:Names by language. Note that this is closely associated with the ongoing discussion over Category:Surnames by culture. Place Clichy (talk) 01:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy: for clarity, which proposal do you support? (please ping on reply)HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:36, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Animorphs books
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Almost all redirects following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Individual articles in the Animorphs series * Pppery * it has begun... 05:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, but manually add article Animorphs Chronicles to Category:Animorphs. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:26, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:East Asian fashion
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:East Asian fashion to Category:Asian fashion
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There are only categories by country in here, (and the parent category Asian fashion by region only contains this category). It's not helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 05:42, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 09:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. --Lenticel (talk) 00:35, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Love in Arabic literature
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Love in Arabic literature to Category:Arabic literature
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection. I couldn't find any other language/literature that had a category like this Mason (talk) 04:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just delete and manually move subCategory:Arabic erotic literature under Category:Arabic literature. The articles are already in the tree of Category:Arabic literature. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Zoos established in 1752
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:46, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1752 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1752 and Category:Zoos established in the 18th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1828 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1828 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1830 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1830 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1836 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1836 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1838 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1838 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1840 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1840 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1844 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1844 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1847 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1847 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1854 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1854 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1855 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1855 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1857 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1857 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1858 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1858 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1860 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1860 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1861 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1861 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1862 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1862 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1863 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1863 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1865 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1865 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1866 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1866 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1868 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1868 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1869 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1869 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1872 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1872 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1874 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1874 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1875 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1875 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1876 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1876 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1877 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1877 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1878 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1878 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1879 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1879 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1882 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1882 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1883 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1883 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1884 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1884 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1885 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1885 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1888 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1888 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1889 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1889 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1891 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1891 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1892 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1892 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1893 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1893 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1895 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1895 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1896 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1896 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1898 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1898 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1899 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1899 and Category:Zoos established in the 19th century
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1900 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1900 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1902 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1902 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1903 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1903 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1904 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1904 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1905 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1905 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1906 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1906 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1907 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1907 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1908 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1908 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1909 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1909 and Category:Zoos established in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1910 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1910 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1911 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1911 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1912 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1912 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1913 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1913 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1914 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1914 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1915 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1915 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1916 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1916 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1918 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1918 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1919 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1919 and Category:Zoos established in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1921 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1921 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1922 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1922 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1923 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1923 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1924 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1924 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1925 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1925 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1926 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1926 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1927 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1927 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1928 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1928 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1929 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1929 and Category:Zoos established in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1930 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1930 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1931 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1931 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1932 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1932 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1933 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1933 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1934 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1934 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1935 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1935 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1936 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1936 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1937 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1937 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1938 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1938 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1939 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1939 and Category:Zoos established in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1940 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1940 and Category:Zoos established in the 1940s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1942 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1942 and Category:Zoos established in the 1940s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1946 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1946 and Category:Zoos established in the 1940s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1947 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1947 and Category:Zoos established in the 1940s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1948 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1948 and Category:Zoos established in the 1940s
- Propose merging Category:Zoos established in 1949 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Educational organizations established in 1949 and Category:Zoos established in the 1940s
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1750s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1820s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1830s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1840s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1850s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1860s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1870s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1880s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Zoos established in the 1890s (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCYEAR:
avoid creating a category tree of individual by year categories with very few members
,So for example, instead of grouping by year, group by decade. And then diffuse the by decade categories by year only when necessary
. This tree doesn't need to be diffused by year for the nominated categories. Upmerge. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:55, 2 February 2024 (UTC)- Support per nom Mason (talk) 04:37, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. "Tourist attractions established in" might have been a better merge target but that category tree does not exist at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:41, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge as described in Nominator's rationale - chris_j_wood (talk) 10:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge the nominated individual year categories but keep the nominated decades categories. The latter decades of the 1800s have a sufficient number of articles.--User:Namiba 15:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Viz Media children's picture books
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Viz Media children's picture books to Category:Viz Media
- Nominator's rationale: Only page in here is a list of books. No need for a category. I was leaning towards delete. Mason (talk) 01:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, picture books are not diffused this way. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nomination. Link20XX (talk) 05:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Senegalese books by writer
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Senegalese books by writer (0) to Category:Works by Senegalese writers and Category:Senegalese books
- Propose merging Category:Romanian books by writer (0) to Category:Romanian books and Category:Works by Romanian writers
- Propose merging Category:Moroccan books by writer (0) to Category:Moroccan books and Category:Works by Moroccan writers
- Propose merging Category:Libyan books by writer (0) to Category:Works by Libyan writers and Category:Libyan books
- Propose merging Category:Latvian books by writer (0) to Category:Works by Latvian writers and Category:Latvian books
- Propose merging Category:Guatemalan books by writer (0) to Category:Works by Guatemalan people and Category:Guatemalan books
- Propose merging Category:Dominica books by writer (0) to Category:Works by Dominica writers and Category:Dominica books
- Propose merging Category:Colombian books by writer (0) to Category:Works by Colombian writers and Category:Colombian books
- Propose merging Category:Chilean books by writer (0) to Category:Works by Chilean writers (but not Category:Colombian books, because the category is already deeper in the tree)
- Propose merging Category:Yemeni books by writer (0) to Category:Works by Yemeni writers and Category:Yemeni books
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in each, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:05, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Books by Indian authors
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Category:Kiss of Life members
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Kiss of Life members to Category:Kiss of Life (group)
- Nominator's rationale: Per long-standing precedent for subcategories of Category:Musicians by band when only one band/group member has an article. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. toobigtokale (talk) 00:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Nightclubs in Belfast
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Nightclubs in Belfast to Category:Nightclubs in Northern Ireland, Category:Music venues in Belfast, and Category:Drinking establishments in Belfast
- Propose merging Category:Nightclubs in Dublin (city) to Category:Nightclubs in the Republic of Ireland, Category:Music venues in Dublin (city), Category:Drinking establishments in Dublin (city)
- Nominator's rationale: Only 3 entries each. Merge for now until it can be sufficiently populated. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Night clubs are very much a feature of city life, probably more so that most other topics, and more so than national culture. So if there are a handful of articles for which we should avoid the troublesome, unofficial and contemptuous moniker of [Republic of] Ireland, it should be these ones. Category:Nightclubs by city is a coherent tree, well-established, defining for nightclubs, and the present nomination would remove valid content from that category. Place Clichy (talk) 12:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)- Upmerge for now. I don't really understand Place Clichy's argument, categories are to help navigation, this category isn't large enough to help navigation. It doesn't really matter that Nightclubs by city is a coherent tree. Mason (talk) 01:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- The argument is that these categories, and the articles in them, won't be any more in Category:Nightclubs by city under the proposal, and that doesn't help navigation IMHO. Place Clichy (talk) 09:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- But Category:Nightclubs by city consists of large enough cities anyway, not every city. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Presumably cities associated with nightlife, and there's no reason to remove Belfast and Dublin from that. Alright, I don't feel strongly enough about that one to fight over it, but I wished to record this opinion. Place Clichy (talk) 10:12, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- But Category:Nightclubs by city consists of large enough cities anyway, not every city. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- The argument is that these categories, and the articles in them, won't be any more in Category:Nightclubs by city under the proposal, and that doesn't help navigation IMHO. Place Clichy (talk) 09:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge for now. I don't really understand Place Clichy's argument, categories are to help navigation, this category isn't large enough to help navigation. It doesn't really matter that Nightclubs by city is a coherent tree. Mason (talk) 01:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Categories: By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies by century
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 14:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:21st century by-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies to Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies
- Propose merging Category:20th century by-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies to Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies
- Propose merging Category:19th century by-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies to Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. No compelling reason to exceptionally subdivide this category by century. LukeSurl t c 15:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC)- Support in principle per nom. But the categories should also be manually merged to Category:19th-century elections in the United Kingdom, etc Mason (talk) 01:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- No need for this extra merge target, the articles are already in a year category under Category:19th-century elections in the United Kingdom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:58, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support in principle per nom. But the categories should also be manually merged to Category:19th-century elections in the United Kingdom, etc Mason (talk) 01:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Hackney constituencies
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. No compelling reason this area of London is given a sub-category. LukeSurl t c 14:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge for now, the target is currently not diffused this way. I have no opinion on whether it should be diffused this way, but it does not make sense to have just this single subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:GA-Class Nazi Germany articles
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