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sportacentrs.com (non-English source)

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SportaCentrs.com (LV Wikipedia) is a Latvian (non-English) media that publishes information about sports and also eSports.

The site was launched in 2002 and they have a professional team of journalists about sports and esports: https://parmums.sportacentrs.com/redakcija.html

Mikrobitti

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A Finnish tech/gaming magazine founded in 1984. Since 2015 the magazine has been published by Alma Media, which is among the biggest media companies in Finland. No longer publishes video game reviews with scores, but older issues did carry them until at least 2007. Nowadays the focus appears to be mostly on the online side, though most issues still carry a lone gaming article of 4–6 pages. Do note that all online articles become paywalled some time after their publication.

I don't see any particular reason why this one wouldn't be a reliable source, but asking never hurt anybody. 2001:999:50C:985D:34AD:A972:6E9:F4F4 (talk) 15:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Major long-running computing magazine in the country, I'd say reliable in face of lack of evidence for otherwise.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 07:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Aktueller Software Markt

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Aktueller Software Markt (ASM) is a defunct German gaming magazine active from 1986 to 1995. I was unable to find much about it online, it does not appear to have its own website, and it does not appear to be cited by reliable sources often. Is it reliable? Thanks, QuicoleJR (talk) 18:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, see eurogamer.de, stayforever.de IgelRM (talk) 17:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

GamerInfo.NET

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I notcied this source in the GA review for Rayman (video game), where it is principally used for release dates. I didn't see it as particularly reliable from a first glance but like to have it vetted more broadly for clarity at the review. IceWelder [✉] 18:11, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• I'm leaning towards unreliable within the first few minutes of me looking at the site. The most detail we are given through the about page for the site is that it was "created for gamers by gamers" and has no list of staff or editorial policy. And using Alex Novichenko, one of the writers, as an example, it seems that the site allows people who don't normally do journalism to write (based on his Facebook profile that is linked instead of a staff page or a LinkedIn profile, he simply just has experience using Unity). I see no reason why this source would be reliable at first glance, either. λ NegativeMP1 18:19, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  > Alex Novichenko, one of the writers

  Are there even any other writers? Quick look admittedly, but checking 15 random articles, they're all written by Alex Novichenko.

  The site also has 14 followers on Twitter and 21 on Facebook, which suggests it's not particularly notable.

  Between that, the lack of any editorial policy, and the lack of any obvious indicators of reliability, I'd suggest it's unreliable. DarkeruTomoe (talk) 19:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

The Rayman article only cites the website's games database?. A database that does not cite its sources from an unknown website is probably not reliable. IgelRM (talk) 17:29, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

EssentiallySports

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Found one previous discussion on this. None over at RSN, and I wonder that perhaps even if the WP:VG project deems it unreliable it may be considered usable in other spaces? Unsure. Would like to develop more of a consensus as it's not listed at WP:VG/RS. Noting that it's currently popping up on over 7,000 articles and across a variety of sports articles including very high-profile ones (incl. Stephen Nedoroscik, Sunisa Lee, Max Verstappen, Conor McGregor, Lauren Jackson (a GA), MrBeast, Nathan Chen (also a GA), Josh Allen, and Steve Kerr); also used in articles relevant to the WP:VG project such as Technoblade (2 uses on a GA), Valkyrae, Ludwig Ahgren, Kick (service), KSI. Soulbust (talk) 02:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Vrutal

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As above, part of a GA review. It has a staff page, although many news pieces are still published anonymously. IceWelder [✉] 05:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

If a news piece is published anonymously, then my hopes aren't very high. And based on the staff page, most of the staff don't seem to have any real experience. I also suspect that two of the staff images are generated by AI, which lowers my faith in the site. I'd run a more thorough examination, but I do not speak Spanish and it's hard to navigate even with machine translation. I'm leaning unreliable. λ NegativeMP1 16:01, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Appears to be part of a "RED DE WEBS" blog network, probably not reliable. Assuming this is still for the Rayman GA, do we need a source discussion for a 2 sentence ref, just replace it? IgelRM (talk) 17:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

RSN discussion on Geeks+Gamers

If anyone is interested see WP:RSN#geeksandgamers.com for potential deprecation. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 12:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

GameToc

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GameToc is a South Korean video game website that was technically established in 2010. This website started as a video game branch of The Korea Economic Daily web version, which started in 2009. Its old URL is even https://gametoc.hankyung.com/. But it appears this website went independent recently because the current version removed any mentioned to Hankyung (including the URL), and Hankyung does not list this website on their hompage any more. From what I've seen, the current writers only started publishing articles in 2022. [1], [2], [3] These are all some of the most active news sections in this website, and you can check it only goes as far as 2022. Its About Us explicitly says this website is now "GameToc 2.0" since March 2022. So, it's safe to say this rebooted website should be treated as a separate entity from the former The Korea Economic Daily incarnation.

All that said, this "GameToc 2.0" website is highly questionable because:

• No list of staff or editorial policy. Its About Us is just generic 'by the gamers' introduction.
• Its current owner Park Myeong-gi (박명기) is the only staff from the former website, and he has no known prior journalism experience. Nor does its editor-in-chief, Jang Dongjun (장동준).
• No known credentials found for any of its regular authors, of which there're only about 4, including the owner.
• Its articles mostly consist of press release for video games with little input from authors. The articles are strangely categorized; its "reviews" like this are not a review of video games but an announcement for new mobile game paid contents. Suspicion of WP:SPONSORED?
• The website has a very low exposure. Its Twiter account currently has 68 followers, which pales to any major Korean news website that goes five-to-six digits.

This GameToc 2.0 seems nothing of interest and I suggest marking this unreliable.--Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 15:39, 24 August 2024 (UTC)