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==Classification theories==
There is some disagreement about the languages the Yue spoke, with candidates drawn from the non-Sinitic language families still represented in areas of [[southern China]] to this day, which includes [[Kra–Dai languages|Kra–Dai]], [[Hmong–Mien languages|Hmong–Mien]], and [[Austroasiatic languages]];<ref = "name="DeLancey (2011)">{{cite book |last1last= DeLancey |first1first= Scott |date= 2011 |chapter= On the Origins of Sinitic |chapter-url= https://www.academia.edu/3894773 |title= Proceedings of the 23rd North American Conference on Chinese LingusiticLingusitics |volume= 1 |pages= 51–64 |doi= 10.1075/scld.2.04del |series= "Studies in Chinese Language and Discourse" series |isbn= 978-90-272-0181-2}}</ref> as Chinese, [[Kra–Dai languages|Kra–Dai]], [[Hmong–Mien languages|Hmong–Mien]], and the [[Vietic languages|Vietic]] branch of [[Austroasiatic languages|Austroasiatic]] have similar tone systems, syllable structure, grammatical features and lack of inflection, but these features are believed to have spread by means of diffusion across the [[Mainland Southeast Asia linguistic area]], rather than indicating common descent.<ref>{{cite journal |titlelast=Enfield |first=N. J. |title=Areal Linguistics and Mainland Southeast Asia |firstjournal=Annual Review of Anthropology |volume=34 N|date=2005 |pages=181–206 |doi=10.J1146/annurev.anthro.34.081804.120406 |lasturl= http://pubman.mpdl.mpg.de/pubman/item/escidoc:57458:2/component/escidoc:57459/Enfield_2005_areal.pdf |hdl=11858/00-001M-0000-0013-167B-C Enfield|hdl-access=free |archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20130524220414/http://pubman.mpdl.mpg.de/pubman/item/escidoc:57458:2/component/escidoc:57459/Enfield_2005_areal.pdf |archive-date=2013-05-24}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |last=LaPolla Annual|first=Randy ReviewJ. of|author-link=Randy AnthropologyLaPolla |volumedate=2010 |title=Language 34Contact |yearand Language Change in the History of the Sinitic Languages |journal=Procedia: 2005Social and Behavioral Sciences |pagesvolume=2 |issue=5 181–206|pages=6858–6868}}</ref>
*Scholars in China often assume that the Yue spoke an early form of Kra–Dai. According to Sagart (2008), this is far from self-evident, because the core of the [[Kra–Dai languages|Kra–Dai]] area geographically is located in [[Hainan]] and the China-VietnamChina–Vietnam border region, which is beyond the extreme southern end of the Yue area. The linguist Wei Qingwen gave a rendering of the "[[Song of the Yue boatman]]" in [[Standard Zhuang]]. [[Zhengzhang Shangfang]] proposed an interpretation of the song in written [[Thai language|Thai]] (dating from the late 13th century) as the closest available approximation to the original language, but his interpretation remains controversial.{{sfn|Zhengzhang|1991|pp= 159–168}}{{sfn|Sagart|2008|p= 143}}
| doi = 10.1146/annurev.anthro.34.081804.120406 |url = http://pubman.mpdl.mpg.de/pubman/item/escidoc:57458:2/component/escidoc:57459/Enfield_2005_areal.pdf |hdl = 11858/00-001M-0000-0013-167B-C |access-date = 2013-06-05
*[[Ilia Peiros|Peiros]] (2011) shows with his analysis that the homeland of Austroasiatic is somewhere near the [[Yangtze]]. He suggests southern Sichuan or slightly west from it, as the likely homeland of proto-Austroasiatic speakers before they migrated to other parts of China and then into Southeast Asia. He further suggests that the family must be as old as proto-Austronesian and proto-Sino-Tibetan or even older.<ref>{{Cite web |url= http://www.jolr.ru/files/(68)jlr2011-6(101-114).pdf |title=Some thoughts on the problem of the Austro-Asiatic homeland|last=|first= |date=2011 |website=JOLR.ru |publisher=Peiros (2011)}}</ref> The linguists Sagart (2011) and Bellwood (2013) support the theory of an origin of Austroasiatic along the Yangtze river in southern China.<ref>Reconstructing Austroasiatic prehistory;{{cite Chapter in the forthcomingbook |editor1-last=Jenny, |editor1-first=M. &|editor2-last=Sidwell |editor2-first=P. Sidwell|chapter=Reconstructing (eds.).Austroasiatic forthcomingprehistory |date=2015. |title=Handbook of the Austroasiatic Languages. |location=Leiden: |publisher=Brill. (Page |page=1: “Sagart|quote=Sagart (2011) and Bellwood (2013) favour the middle Yangzi”)Yangzi}}</ref>{{better source needed|date=November 2021}}
| archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20130524220414/http://pubman.mpdl.mpg.de/pubman/item/escidoc:57458:2/component/escidoc:57459/Enfield_2005_areal.pdf |archive-date = 2013-05-24 |url-status = dead |hdl-access = free
}}</ref><ref>[[Randy LaPolla|LaPolla, Randy J.]] (2010). Language Contact and Language Change in the History of the Sinitic Languages. ''Procedia - Social and Behavioral Sciences, 2''(5), 6858-6868.</ref>
*Scholars in China often assume that the Yue spoke an early form of Kra–Dai. According to Sagart (2008), this is far from self-evident, because the core of the [[Kra–Dai languages|Kra–Dai]] area geographically is located in [[Hainan]] and the China-Vietnam border region, which is beyond the extreme southern end of the Yue area. The linguist Wei Qingwen gave a rendering of the "[[Song of the Yue boatman]]" in [[Standard Zhuang]]. [[Zhengzhang Shangfang]] proposed an interpretation of the song in written [[Thai language|Thai]] (dating from the late 13th century) as the closest available approximation to the original language, but his interpretation remains controversial.{{sfn|Zhengzhang|1991|pp= 159–168}}{{sfn|Sagart|2008|p= 143}}
*[[Ilia Peiros|Peiros]] (2011) shows with his analysis that the homeland of Austroasiatic is somewhere near the [[Yangtze]]. He suggests southern Sichuan or slightly west from it, as the likely homeland of proto-Austroasiatic speakers before they migrated to other parts of China and then into Southeast Asia. He further suggests that the family must be as old as proto-Austronesian and proto-Sino-Tibetan or even older.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.jolr.ru/files/(68)jlr2011-6(101-114).pdf|title=Some thoughts on the problem of the Austro-Asiatic homeland|last=|first=|date=|website=|publisher=Peiros (2011)}}</ref> The linguists Sagart (2011) and Bellwood (2013) support the theory of an origin of Austroasiatic along the Yangtze river in southern China.<ref>Reconstructing Austroasiatic prehistory; Chapter in the forthcoming Jenny, M. & P. Sidwell (eds.). forthcoming 2015. Handbook of the Austroasiatic Languages. Leiden: Brill. (Page 1: “Sagart (2011) and Bellwood (2013) favour the middle Yangzi”)</ref>{{better source needed|date=November 2021}}
*[[Laurent Sagart|Sagart]] (2008) suggests that the Old Yue language, together with the [[proto-Austronesian language]], was descended from the language or languages of the Tánshíshān‑Xītóu culture complex (modern-day [[Fujian]] province of China), making the Old Yue language a [[sister language]] to proto-Austronesian, which Sagart sees as the origin of the Kra–Dai languages.{{sfn|Sagart|2008|pp= 141-145}}
 
Behr (2009) also notes that the [[Chu (state)|Chǔ]] dialect of Old Chinese was influenced by several [[Stratum (linguistics)|substrata]], predominantly Kra-Dai, but also possibly Austroasiatic, Austronesian and Hmong-Mien.<ref name="Behr 2009">Behr, Wolfgang (2009). "Dialects, diachrony, diglossia or all three? Tomb text glimpses into the language(s) of Chǔ",
''TTW-3, Zürich, 26.-29.VI.2009, "Genius loci"''.</ref>{{full citation needed|date=June 2024|reason=This needs to be formatted properly into a citation template, with unabbreviated parts; no one but the person who wrote this citation is going to have any idea what most of this jumbled string of characters (other than author, title, date) is trying to convey.}}
''TTW-3, Zürich, 26.-29.VI.2009, “Genius loci”''</ref>
 
==Kra–Dai arguments==