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:::::Like I said I'd support a topic ban if nominated. --[[User:Tarage|Tarage]] ([[User talk:Tarage|talk]]) 06:30, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::[[User:Tarage|Tarage]], [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] - Speaking as a completely neutral and uninvolved editor here: I'm not aware of the problematic issues that you describe have been occurring, but if you feel that a [[WP:TBAN|topic ban]] is necessary, needed, and the best solution - it's completely within your prerogative and your right to propose such if that's how you truly feel. Just make sure that any proposal made also includes a strong explanation and necessary details that show a pattern of long-term issues, as well as diffs that support each detail or reason stated. Else, it'll have a very little chance of being successful per [[WP:CON|community consensus]]. Any uninvolved administrator can apply this sanction unilaterally due to the active [[WP:ARBGC|discretionary sanctions authorized by ArbCom]] (that's not an implication or invitation to go "admin shopping" to have this happen, obviously... haha). [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 07:11, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::It is strange that Legacypac would come here because I do not see how this could be construed as anything other than a threat from Legacypac. I point out this was made after Legacypac was asked to stay off my talk page which would be a second violation of [[WP:NOBAN]]. '''You insist on removing my posts ''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:72bikers&diff=next&oldid=833851396] {{blue|(my edit summary-Stay off my talk page this should take place on the noticeboard)}} '''that are on this topic - your conduct. Do you really want me to go to a notice board to get you sanctioned while you can't edit the notice board? ''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:72bikers&diff=833853361&oldid=833852878] by editor Legacypac.
:::::::Take it to ANi 72bikers. 3RR is not designed to deal with this kind of dispute. There we can vote on a "guns" topic ban for 72bikers. Legacypac (talk) 2:21 pm, Yesterday (UTC−4)[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=864512097&oldid=864511226]
:::::::Legacypac has repeatedly threatened me, he stated if I brought editors simons223 behavior of casting unfounded aspersions to a noticeboard he would get me topic banned. He has also been extremely uncivil. As to Tarage I have never had any interaction with him and I am not forum shopping, I also am not looking for any action to be taken on Simon223 previous misbehavior nor am I looking to use this as debating any content inclusion or exclusion, all of that is just context. Editor simmon223 recently made numerous unfounded personal attacks, he made these with what he claimed made them facts but as everyone can clearly see they were unfounded and thereby violations of the articles "civility restriction".- [[User:72bikers|72bikers]] ([[User talk:72bikers|talk]]) 14:38, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Look it is abundantly clear with all of the hostility and personal attacks on my intelligence present here "semi-illiterate walls of text", "the fact it was also borderline gibberish just made it more...insulting (and yes I think it was a calculated dig" and this is just a sample of what I have to bear. Surely I should not have to suffer this type of abuse.-[[User:72bikers|72bikers]] ([[User talk:72bikers|talk]]) 14:38, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:With this [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slatersteven&diff=864522600&oldid=864496149]], it is clear that 72bikers is not listening, he quotes a rule about what admins can do to justify his action. As to the material under dispute here, yes it could have been copy edited, except that many of us also did not see why it should have been included, the fact it was also borderline gibberish just made it more...insulting (and yes I think it was a calculated dig).[[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 08:26, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:In this latest spat he moved (well actually moved his, the effect is the same) his comments (and even seemed to use this new sequence in his complaint about Simon) [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:AR-15_style_rifle&diff=864485349&oldid=864482906]], nor is this the first time [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:AR-15_style_rifle&diff=864390156&oldid=864386459]]. This is (as far as I know) a breach of policy, not just DS. It also makes it very hard to follow threads (and he does this often). He had repeatedly cast assertions as to double standards as well as calling out users standards of literacy. Moreover his semi-illiterate walls of text are not new either. I would also point out that in a number of situations we had seemed to be working towards a compromise in a spirit if cooperation until he showed up and basically posted some non sequitur wall of text that derailed a thread.[[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 08:40, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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