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The result was delete‎. If an editor wanted to work on this article in Draft space in the future and submit it to AFC for review, contact me or WP:REFUND. But moving it directly back to main space will result in a CSD G4 speedy deletion and that would not result in a restoration. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Seoul car crash

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Notability is not met. Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep WP:LASTING is likely satisfied as per the sentence, The tragedy was notable for prompting safety measures in Seoul to prevent future vehicle accidents, and for highlighting the prevalence of traffic accidents caused by senior citizens and about potential programs to promote voluntary withdrawal of their driver's licenses.[6] It was also notable for investigations into derogatory statements left at the makeshift memorial for the tragedy and on online communities, prompting arrests for defamation charges.[7] In addition, the article has 26 textual citations, some from international news sources, and the collision caused 9 deaths with the potential for up to 12. 69.118.230.235 (talk) 21:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Transportation. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because of legislation per WP:EFFECT. Comment I disagree with some of the defense of this article. I don't agree that the derogitory remarks or the investigations into them count as notability per WP:EFFECT. Those are just things that happened, not impact on society/legislation.

Also to people editing the article, please be more mindful about trying to assert that something is objectively notable in Wikipedia's voice, per MOS:OFCOURSE. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 09:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What legislation? The article only mentions investigations and an emergency order, none of which is legislation. This occurred less than a week ago. I'm not aware of any jurisdiction which passes legislation that quickly, except in extraordinary circumstances. This is just another news story that will be forgotten about by the time there's any lasting impact. That's the reason for all the Wikilawyering and other maneuvering I see going on, just like any number of other news stories that are (almost) immediately AFD'ed and defended based on the mere presence of X number of citations. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 15:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh whoops, TIL the definition of "legislation" isn't just "government action". Striking my keep vote. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 16:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Government action is still a lasting effect that will result in this incident being remembered. You’re basically saying that Executive Order 9981 is not notable because it’s just government action, not actual legislation. 2A01:B747:6F:314:C534:B05B:949A:C2E4 (talk) 19:21, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not all executive actions are created equal. You cannot seriously be comparing an executive action in the aftermath of WWII by one of the most important figures of the 20th century to this. These orders are also more fragile than robust legislation. It also doesn't help that Korea engages in action theater often after these kinds of incidents.

The reason I haven't flipped my vote to delete is because it remains to be seen for me if anything more weighty does happen 211.43.120.242 (talk) 22:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I'll vote draftify until more significant evidence for notability emerges 211.43.120.242 (talk) 22:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Run of the mill accident. If this were deliberate I would have voted otherwise. Borgenland (talk) 02:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete In my opinion, this document is not described from a neutral point of view, because I think that quoting news that has brought about a community response on the Internet and writing down the Derogatory Remarks category hurts neutrality.

Wildcro (talk) 14:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:ATD, the NPOV issues should be fixed, and not result in article deletion.69.118.230.235 (talk) 23:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think you meant to say "the NPOV issues should be fixed, and not contribute to article deletion". I still think the article leans towards draftify/delete, regardless of the POV expressed in the article. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 00:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not notable. If there has been some impact on road safety in South Korea, it could be discussed on a broader subject page. 43.252.112.225 (talk) 00:32, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - does not meet notability. A sentence or two could be incorporated at Road transport in South Korea (a recently created entry, one seventh the size of this article - that one deserves some attention). Mr.choppers | ✎ 03:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - does not meet notability per GNG. This is sadly run of the mill in South Korea. Bearian (talk) 00:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Side note, but I wouldn't say these kinds of accidents are run of the mill particularly in South Korea; the number of deaths in this incident is really high. People are also especially incensed by it because the people who caused the crash have been really cagey, which is probably why people care about the article. What is common is outrage and action theater, which is really common anywhere. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 13:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Procedural keep since I didn't see the PROD. Withdrawing nom. (non-admin closure)‎ Sincerely, Dilettante 17:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Seoul car crash

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Brought to my attention by ITNC. Fails WP:SUSTAINED and WP:EVENTCRIT#4. It can be undeleted later if there is any actual impact. Also against the spirit of WP:NOTNEWS. Sincerely, Dilettante 17:29, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. – Joe (talk) 17:17, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seoul Tourism Awards

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Non-notable award which effectively serves the purpose of rewarding people who promote tourism in Seoul. The awards don't seem to have any significant coverage in third-party sources aside from trivial mentions and promotional pieces. There are no mainspace pages that link to the article either, apart from List of awards and nominations received by NewJeans. The article has only had a few edits made since its creation 15 years ago, mostly by bots. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 11:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep because of notability. I encourage you to search for articles about the award in Korean; the award has a ton of non trivial and non (at least it seems like) promotional coverage.

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I can look up more upon request.

Also I'd argue the lack of activity and links is much more secondary to coverage. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 12:08, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I'm seeing quite a bit of significant coverage on Korean sources, especially on some bigger Korean news sites like YTN like here [5][6] and Kyunghyang Shinmun (linked above). If anything, the Wikipedia article just needs some updating. MetropolitanIC (💬|📝) 02:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GNG. Sufficient coverage exists in a number of reliable Korean-language sources. The article absolutely needs work, but the sources do exist. GhostOfNoMeme 09:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. I see a consensus to Keep this article and a weak deletion nomination statement. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

INFINITT Healthcare

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Stub created by a paid account, seemingly no notability whatsoever. ahmetlii ^✉ _{(Please ping me on a reply!)} 08:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Weak delete:~~ As a public KOSDAQ company, coverage exists. This would appear to scrape notability for companies, but sourcing I could locate is way too dependent on press releases such as https://www.arabnews.com/ejada-and-infinitt-forge-health-care-links. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 22:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC) - Weak keep CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 07:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Needs searches in the Korean language. Try googling "인피니트헬스"; you get much more results. [7][8][9][10][11][12] I am mindful of the fact that the page is tainted by a paid creator, but it doesn't read excessively complimentary to me on a quick glance. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 11:07, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] and [6] are press release, [2] is about the CEO, and I have reservation on [3] and [4] as routine stock coverage. [5] is good and I did not see it before: changing my vote. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 07:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: while the article is short and incomplete I do believe the subject itself doesn't violet the notability guidelines for companies as it is a a public company with some coverage, but it should be improved and expanded. EncyclopediaEditorXIV (talk) 14:22, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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