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Sources saying it was an AR-15 [http://time.com/5160267/gun-used-florida-school-shooting-ar-15/], [https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/14/ar-15-mass-shootings/339519002/], [https://money.cnn.com/2017/11/06/news/companies/ruger-ar-556-ar-15/].[[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]])
:These sources highlight the issue I have with the "it is" sources. Consider we have several articles that specifically address why the MCX isn't an AR-15. These three simply don't dive into that issue at all. They don't question or address the "not AR-15" claim. Instead they simply repeat earlier claims that the Pulse shooting was one of several that used an AR-15. That means they didn't consider the question. I've said this before, consider the [[Ford Pinto]] case. We have articles that restate as a matter of fact/faith that the Pinto was a fire trap and that Ford did a cost calculation comparing the cost of fixing the Pinto with the cost of litigation. But the articles that make that claim aren't actually investigating it's validity, they are simply repeating it. In that case there were a few articles that specifically looked at that question. All said the conventional wisdom was wrong. We have the same here. 100% of the sources that actually address the question, is the MCX and AR-15, say no. The "balancing" sources simply repeat "conventional wisdom" with no support or analysis. Given we that we even have sources that say why this confusion started in the first place (early reports which misidentified the rifle) this should be an open and shut case. [[User:Springee|Springee]] ([[User talk:Springee|talk]]) 18:13, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
:USA Today "AR-15 style rifle (a Sig Sauer MCX)" does not infer explicitly it is a AR-15. I would also point out this source concludes there research with the help from Stanford Geospatial Center and Stanford Libraries that AR rifles were used only 13 times (as of Feb. 14, 2018) in the last 35 year. You ignore this and deny RS content from the article but try and cherry pick something of your liking. CNN "AR-15-type rifles" Time "AR-15-style rifles" just generalized comments made in a sensationalized way. It also in no way disputes the sources that explicitly state that the MCX is not a AR and why the mistake was made because of the police error, that they later corrected, so we have the police on the record saying they made a mistake calling the MCX a AR. I do give you credit for at least linking something though. -[[User:72bikers|72bikers]] ([[User talk:72bikers|talk]]) 18:50, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
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