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The result of the move request was: '''Moved'''. Raw numbers from Google are all but useless. Google Books is very bad at picking up data from historical names--believe it or not, "Constantinople" still outranks [[Istanbul]] (link 1). Current sources are needed. I also noticed at least one search providing "evidence" for Dečani searched for "Decani" instead; this decreased Google Books results from 39 to 3 English sources that are not explicitly referring to the town's name in decades past (link 2). In absence of a clear common name, we go with the official name. {{rmnac}} [[User:Red Slash|<font color="#FF4131">Red </font>]][[User talk:Red Slash|<b><font color="#460121">Slash</font></b>]] 06:12, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 
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[https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Istanbul%2CConstantinople&year_start=1908&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CIstanbul%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CConstantinople%3B%2Cc0] [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22De%C4%8Dani%22+kosovo+-wikipedia&sa=X&ei=OQC4UrnoCIH1ygP21YDoDg&ved=0CCIQpwUoBDha&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A2010%2Ccd_max%3A&tbm=bks#q=%22De%C4%8Dani%22+kosovo+-wikipedia&start=20&tbm=bks&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2010]
 
[[:Dečani]] → {{no redirect|Deçan}} – Move from Serbian to (now official) Albanian name. Same pattern again in Google Books since 2010 [http://www.google.fr/search?lr=lang_en&hl=fr&tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=kosovo+%22De%C4%8Dani+%22&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:1+janv.+2010&num=10 Kosovo + Dečani 255 results] vs [http://www.google.fr/search?lr=lang_en&hl=fr&tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=kosovo+De%C3%A7an&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:1+janv.+2010&num=10 Kosovo + Deçan 504 results]. Again avoid [[WP:CANVASSING]] and other problems in RM at [[Talk:Uroševac]]. Searches should be in current (following [[2008 Kosovo declaration of independence]]) English [[WP:RS]]. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 05:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
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::::Notice that the name of this city has not changed. It remains ''Dečani'' in Serbo-Croatian and ''Deçan'' in Albanian, just as it was before 2008 & 1999. — Compare this situation with that of a certain Russian city that first changed its name from ''Tsaritsyn'' to ''Stalingrad'', and then to ''Volgograd''. Can you see the difference? --[[User:Ev|Ev]] ([[User talk:Ev|talk]]) 03:26, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::Common usage has shifted toward Deçan in recent years, as the many sources show. If you're now arguing on the basis of ''official'' names rather than common usage, we get the same answer - [https://kk.rks-gov.net/decan/default.aspx?lang=en-US the municipality calls itself Deçan] in English. If your first, second, and third arguments are discredited, will you reconsider your !vote, or will you think up a fourth argument? [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 03:45, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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