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RCMP's motto

"Maintiens le droit".

Cher Monsieur "142.165.92.240",

On n'a guère besoin de quelqu’un dont le seul but dans la vie c’est la corruption de la langue. Votre traduction n’était pas du tout juste, et je l’ai corrigée en insérant la formulation juste. C’est “Uphold the law”. On ne dit jamais “Maintain the right” en anglais. Qu’est-ce que ça veut dire?

Si on veut faire des traductions du français en anglais, il faut qu’on apprenne les deux langues tout d'abord!


Kelisi 2005/2/7

Well, "Maintain the Right" does have the same meaning as "Uphold the law," though the latter is much more concise.Habsfannova 22:43, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • Perhaps it's more concise, but Maintiens le droit can only mean "Maintain the right" if by "right" you mean an unassailable entitlement. Which one does it mean, then? The right to free assembly? The right to legal representation in court? No, the French word droit in this context can only mean the law. If you want to say "Maintain the right" in French, as in that which is morally correct, you would have to say Maintiens le bien. As for the "uphold" part, that's simply a question of usage. The usual formulation in English has us upholding the law, rather than maintaining it. ———Kelisi 2005/2/9

Removed vandalism

I really don't see how the following related to the RCMP:

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picture

Can we have at least one picture like this: http://www.edmontonairports.com/data/1/rec_imgs/243_rcmp.jpg on this page? dave 00:18, 17 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

You want a picture of a mountie smiling as they scrape whats left of some guy from an accident in the background? - Lucky13pjn 03:05, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
Photo is of a training exercise.[[1]] Glenlarson 16:39, 17 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Ah, I see. Still, it's a creepy picture. - Lucky13pjn 19:35, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
Hehe, I didn't really pay too much attention to the background. It could be cropped though. dave 16:34, 21 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
If you mean why cant we have a picture of an officer not in the formal red outfit, I agree. Zhatt 18:01, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Featured Article

I would like to make RCMP a Featured article, but before that happens it will need to be peer reviewed, and before that happens there are a few things I know need to be fixed:

  1. Sources/References need to be added. I've started this process. See: Wikipedia:Cite sources and Wikipedia:Footnote2.
  2. The history of the service section need to have more of a flow to the reader and be less of a list. Maybe subsections with titles; "Jurisdiction expansion", expansion of responsibilities" etc..
  3. The Rochfort Bridge Massacre section is repeated. Lets put it in one section (perhaps a section in the history titles "Recent event", say, stuff that has happened in the last 30-50 years.
  4. RCMP in wartime. Isn't this part of the history section?
  5. See Also. I hate the See also section. Shouldn't things such as training and recruiting be written into the article itself, with a "See main article" at the top of the section?

- Trevor MacInnis(Talk | Contribs) 02:14, 20 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Northwest Mounted Police

Northwest Mounted Police redirects here, but there is no explanation in the article. I know nothing about the subject, I just got linked here accidentally when wikifying Arthur Reginald French. Rl 08:22, 20 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Yes there is. It says in the history section that the RCMP descends from the NWMP. -- Necrothesp 13:04, 20 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I see. let me rephrase then: The article doesn't mention that NWMP expands to Northwest Mounted Police. Rl 13:34, 20 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Well, it refers to the Northwest Mounted Police and then later in the same section refers to the NWMP, which I would have thought was quite obviously an abbreviation. But I'll add it if it's confusing. -- Necrothesp 14:01, 20 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for your patience. If I get redirected to a long article and I can't see the word I was looking for, I let my browser search for it. The article mentions "North West Mounted Police", but I had been redirected from "Northwest Mounted Police". That explains why I missed the obvious. I can't think of an example off the top of my head, but in such cases we try to mention the redirect word in the first paragraph. So in this case, maybe something like "The unit was called North West Mounted Police (NWMP) from its creation in 1873 to 1904." Rl 14:51, 20 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

"Fair shake"

I'd like to comment that overall, this is an excellent article. But one paragraph sort of sticks out as POV and/or unverifiable:

The RCMP is arguably one of the most professional police forces in the world. While their purpose is to enforce the law, they do so in a very professional and courteous manner. They are known even to the criminal class in Canada as a law enforcement organization who will give you a fair, albeit in accordance with the law, shake at all times.

I don't doubt that the RCMP are fair and courteous -- although I've never been stopped by them.  :) But the "arguably" and "known even to the criminal class" phrases trouble me. How can it be verified that the criminal class regards the RCMP as fair? Can this be verified and/or rewritten? I hesitate to do anything in this regard because I don't know where to start. - Sensor 03:22, 2 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Er...

The article currently explains that the RCMP are both the federal police and the national police. Could someone please explain the difference?Agent_Koopa