Talk:That '70s Show

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Merge Laurie Forman

More significant characters on lost of other shows that do not have own article. Just kinda seems like a fan page. --0pen$0urce (talk) 13:50, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

The character article is essentially an essay, referenced by scripts only. The paragraph on the character in this show article is more than sufficient. Nothing to merge, change it to a redirect.--RadioFan (talk) 14:25, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I am also concerned that (1) the references in the Forman article don't work and (2) even if they did, they would probably be copyright violations.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Agree, it does seem like a fan page. This character page has not even been edited (other than an IP's edit being undone) since the merge was proposed, so if there are no objections to this within a week, I will change this page to redirect to the show's article. - Bentvfan54321 (talk) 17:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

As it's been almost 3 months and there are no objections to this merge, I have performed it. The Laurie Forman article redirects to the show's article as of March 1. --Bentvfan54321 (talk) 23:21, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Two years later and now someone likes it. Oh well. The above still holds: No independent reliable sources, no indication of external notability. Any sources for notability here? - SummerPhD (talk) 18:34, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Redirect all That '70s Show character pages to this page

None of the character pages have sources and several have {{Refimprove}} dating back to 2009 and it is 2013. So if no one objects i would like to redirect all that 70s show characters to this page? 184.58.24.163 (talk) 07:20, 23 November 2013 (UTC) - Redirect

There have been numerous AfDs concerning character articles similar to these and there is rarely a consensus to delete or redirect articles where the subject is a main character in a notable TV program. It's generally far more productive to attempt to establish real-world notability. --AussieLegend (✉) 10:37, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

If notability cannot be established than the pages need to be redirected. Only Michael Kelso has reasonable references (beyond the show itself, which does not establish notability at all). These pages have been tagged with notability concerns for over a year and no progress has been made, it's time to redirect them all (except Michael Kelso) --RadioFan (talk) 18:39, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I've used these very arguments myself at AfDs but the community disagrees. Wikipedia is not working to a deadline. --AussieLegend (✉) 20:38, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Deadline is not the point. Laurie Forman was already redirected and if Michael Kelso is the only decent one then I agree with RadioFan we need to redirect them. 184.58.24.163 (talk) 23:30, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

So far it is two for redirect and one against. If no one else comments within the next few days it will be considered consensus and remaining page, Red Forman, will be reverted to this page. 184.58.24.163 (talk) 00:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

We don't form WP:CONSENSUS based on the number of votes. WP:NORUSH is very relevant. Laurie Forman was redirected because she wan't a "core" main character. --AussieLegend (✉) 03:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

There is two for redirect and one against. Please keep the conversation at either redirecting them or not. Do not bring in other stuff as this is the Afd and consensus discussion. If no one else is against redirecting them when consensus has been reached then it needs to be merged just as others were. 184.58.24.163 (talk) 05:16, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Also note that the pages do not meet WP:Article development, WP:Reliable, WP:Notability, etc. 184.58.24.163 (talk) 05:23, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

This should be routed through WP:AFD to get community consensus. This talk page is not an AfD discussion, it's a talk page discussion. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 05:27, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Fez's homeland/birthplace

Is it never shown where Fez had lived, but it is hinted several times during the course of the entire series progresses. He originally says that "The island has been settled by the British and Dutch, and he states that the island is 10,000 miles away." (We all know that this is an extreme exaggeration, obviously). He later states in an episode later on during the series as well: "The people are outnumbered by lizards." Or, he even says "The country has a 70 degrees temperature in the winter."

However, there was also an episode in Season 8, where one of Fez's friends, back when he was living on the island - after he had turned down Jackie - and this is when he had realizes he made a mistake. His friend states: "Come back to the Island," and Fez states: "I'll come back to Brazil." He's from one of these countries:

• Brazi
• St. Eustatius

• Falkland Islands
• Dominican Republic

• Cuba

• Venezuela

• Columbia

• Mexico

• Netherlands

• India

• Puerto Rico

But I'll say since Wilmer was from Venezuela; Fez is from Venezuela.

panicpack121 16:39, 3 March 2014

That's what is known as original research. --AussieLegend (✉) 08:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

In addition to making no sense whatsoever. 88.68.191.164 (talk) 14:23, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

How could he be from the Netherlands he does not sound like he’s from the Netherlands 06etc (talk) 15:20, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Are you suggesting that peoples' accents are a clear indicator of where they're from? :p Regardless, this thread is over four years old and hasn't moved beyond the OR it started out as, so probably best to let it die/lie. DonIago (talk) 14:05, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Elements of the show

Most of the subsections of this appear to be unsourced cruft, with no clear indication as to what makes any of it notable. References should be provided to establish that this information has some level of significance. DonIago (talk) 03:30, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

These are major themes of the show and are as important as plot, premise, etc., none of which requires sourcing to show that it is "significant" or even to show that it is true. If you remove them because of lack of sourcing, you gut a major and interesting part of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

If they're notable themes than it would seem likely that sources have discussed them. DonIago (talk) 06:27, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Maybe, maybe not, but my contention is it's not necessary to find independent sources, so therefore the material can remain regardless. Perhaps other editors will chime in with comments to help us find a consensus. For the moment, though, the material should remain until you or I can agree (dubious) or there are sufficient comments from others to reach a consensus.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:25, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I always support inclusion of sources, and I wouldn't oppose adding sources, but I don't see a real need here for them in the section. The vast majority of what is in the section seems fairly obvious having watched the entire series over 2 years ago. Looking at what Doniago deleted, I really don't see any issues with the content. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:29, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Reception

This article is missing a “Reception” section, unlike most articles about TV shows, movies, or video games. Cup o’ Java (talk • edits) 01:17, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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Running Gags/ Catchphrases

Some of the ones listed there are straight ridiculous. Most notably these:

The best thing to do or the best solution can be found by "The Circle".[28] Eric's attempted "secret" money stash locations are known by everyone.[29][30] Kitty will often laugh in situations she finds awkward. Whenever Red is furious, he usually goes out boating by himself for the whole day. Like in the episode when Eric told Red he is going to marry Donna. Eric has a curse every year on school picture day. A pimple appears on his face before it is his time to take his picture

It seems like whoever added these was grasping at straws to be able to add their 2 cents. Zdawg1029 (talk) 17:56, 14 February 2020 (UTC)