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* Mediterranean Climates are Subtropical per se yet somewhere with all winter months with average means above 12ºC and yearly means above 18ºC are clearly subtropical, just like [[Palermo]] or [[Crete]] are as well. I know there isn't any standard for putting this, but what I said is a good example, because for example these mentioned temperatures are an indicator to grow very sensitive flora that can't grow somewhere with slightly lower temperatures, just like [[Valencia]] is barely 1ºC warmer than [[Castellón de la Plana]] but that's enough for it to grow many additional sensitive plants and flowers. It's subtropical by both Köppen and Trewartha climate classifications, isn't it? Of course not all Csa and much less Csb are subtropical climates, but +12ºC in all months and +18ºC annual mean really are.
* Mediterranean Climates are Subtropical per se yet somewhere with all winter months with average means above 12ºC and yearly means above 18ºC are clearly subtropical, just like [[Palermo]] or [[Crete]] are as well. I know there isn't any standard for putting this, but what I said is a good example, because for example these mentioned temperatures are an indicator to grow very sensitive flora that can't grow somewhere with slightly lower temperatures, just like [[Valencia]] is barely 1ºC warmer than [[Castellón de la Plana]] but that's enough for it to grow many additional sensitive plants and flowers. It's subtropical by both Köppen and Trewartha climate classifications, isn't it? Of course not all Csa and much less Csb are subtropical climates, but +12ºC in all months and +18ºC annual mean really are.


I don't know why you become picky sometimes. As you can see, I am not picky with your edits regarding Portuguese cities, nor with your edits in general. I'd like to receive the same payback. I know the coastal parts of the Canary Islands are too dry for any Köppen A climate but they are tropical per se if we look just at their official 1981-2010 temperature averages. For example, [[Santa Cruz de Tenerife]], albeit having a BSh climate, is considered tropical under Köppen because the coldest month has a mean above 18ºC and your example of Dubai fails in January as I can see. Also put special emphasis on the lowest extremes as well. Or just think this: With the official AEMET averages, they have tropical A climates if the rainfall was much bigger than it actually is. That's why I wrote "by Köppen standards is tropical because all months are above 18ºC" yet it still clearly says that the climates are BSh or BWh because they're too dry, can't deny that. But we can't neither deny the fact that with proper irrigation, basically any kind of ultra tropical flora can grow in most of the coastal parts of the Canary Islands. The temperature averages make it tropical as well as the extreme lows. It's just not because of the rainfall. But it is by their official averages. Am I wrong? Regards. --[[User:TechnicianGB|TechnicianGB]] ([[User talk:TechnicianGB|talk]]) 00:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
I don't know why you become picky sometimes. As you can see, I am not picky with your edits regarding Portuguese cities, nor with your edits in general. I'd like to receive the same payback. I know the Canary Islands are too dry for any Köppen A climate but they are tropical per se if we look just at their official 1981-2010 temperature averages. For example, [[Santa Cruz de Tenerife]], albeit having a BSh climate, is considered tropical under Köppen because the coldest month has a mean above 18ºC and your example of Dubai fails in January as I can see. Also put special emphasis on the lowest extremes as well. Or just think this: With the official AEMET averages, they have tropical A climates if the rainfall was much bigger than it actually is. That's why I wrote "by Köppen standards is tropical because all months are above 18ºC" yet it still clearly says that the climates are BSh or BWh because they're too dry, can't deny that. But we can't neither deny the fact that with proper irrigation, basically any kind of ultra tropical flora can grow in most of the coastal parts of the Canary Islands. The temperature averages make it tropical as well as the extreme lows. It's just not because of the rainfall. But it is by their official averages. Am I wrong? Regards. --[[User:TechnicianGB|TechnicianGB]] ([[User talk:TechnicianGB|talk]]) 00:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


The example of Dubai wasn't good because it fails in January but also because it's way too extreme during the summer, that's obviously an extreme desertic climate. But look what I found, [[Saint Helena]], albeit being much closer to the tropics, their coastal climate is virtually identical to the southern parts of the Canary Islands. It says the climate is "tropical, marine and mild" albeit being all BWh hot desert. Take a look at [[Jamestown,_Saint_Helena#Climate|Jamestown]] where the climate is basically the same as in [[Tenerife#Climate|Tenerife South]] with slightly warmer winters and slightly cooler summers. It says that the climate is a tropical hot desert BWh climate. Because heck, it really is. As long as a place is tropical temp-wise is not incorrect to say it's tropical by Köppen standards. --[[User:TechnicianGB|TechnicianGB]] ([[User talk:TechnicianGB|talk]]) 01:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
The example of Dubai wasn't good because it fails in January but also because it's way too extreme during the summer, that's obviously an extreme desertic climate. But look what I found, [[Saint Helena]], albeit being much closer to the tropics, their coastal climate is virtually identical to the southern parts of the Canary Islands. It says the climate is "tropical, marine and mild" albeit being all BWh hot desert. Take a look at [[Jamestown,_Saint_Helena#Climate|Jamestown]] where the climate is basically the same as in [[Tenerife#Climate|Tenerife South]] with slightly warmer winters and slightly cooler summers. It says that the climate is a tropical hot desert BWh climate. Because heck, it really is. As long as a place is tropical temp-wise is not incorrect to say it's tropical by Köppen standards. --[[User:TechnicianGB|TechnicianGB]] ([[User talk:TechnicianGB|talk]]) 01:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
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