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As for the Portimao averages, all of these numbers are still different from the source. But since I'm not picky I won't delete them. I have tried finding an archived URL of the source but I didn't find it either. --[[User:TechnicianGB|TechnicianGB]] ([[User talk:TechnicianGB|talk]]) 19:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{Pin|TechnicianGB}} Why do you insist on keeping the boxes when you know the parameter doesn't match with the data? How many active climate editors are there? Even if they exist they would've had to check the source to see if that data is referring to the right parameter, which I did. Saying "no one has complained" to something that is arguably wrong isn't an excuse (I complained btw). And I'm being very open about this, I could've easily kept the boxes with that parameter deleted until consensus on Template Talk: Weather Box was reached.
:I think it would be better collapsed as it occupies too much space and it's not that relevant for a climate section. But you do you. So, can we agree on this example below with lower width instead of collapsed? I've also changed "mean temperature extremes" to "highest and lowest mean temperatures" to further avoid confusion. [[User:Average Portuguese Joe|Average Portuguese Joe]] ([[User talk:Average Portuguese Joe#top|talk]]) 23:16, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
{{Weather box
|location = Cádiz, 1981-2010 highest and lowest mean temperatures
|metric first = yes
|single line = yes
|width = 70%
|Jan record high C = 17.6
|Feb record high C = 19.3
|Mar record high C = 21.8
|Apr record high C = 22.1
|May record high C = 24.8
|Jun record high C = 28.0
|Jul record high C = 30.1
|Aug record high C = 31.4
|Sep record high C = 28.7
|Oct record high C = 25.6
|Nov record high C = 22.9
|Dec record high C = 18.1
|year record high C= 31.4
|Jan record low C = 7.0
|Feb record low C = 6.8
|Mar record low C = 10.7
|Apr record low C = 11.7
|May record low C = 13.9
|Jun record low C = 16.7
|Jul record low C = 19.5
|Aug record low C = 20.4
|Sep record low C = 17.8
|Oct record low C = 14.6
|Nov record low C = 11.1
|Dec record low C = 8.6
|year record low C= 6.8
|source 1 = [[Agencia Estatal de Meteorología]]<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://www.aemet.es/es/conocermas/recursos_en_linea/publicaciones_y_estudios/publicaciones/detalles/guia_resumida_2010
|title=Guía resumida del clima en España (1981-2010)
|access-date= 8 November 2021}}</ref>
}}
:And changing subject, the book you cited at Valencia. Do you have it or you just put it there to avoid the unsourced tag? The word "Subtropical" has one generalized meaning: Close to Tropical. This can be interpreted differently by different people. So unless the word subtropical is used on most of the research papers (like on the Canaries or Madeira for example) you should always put the person or classification that is used.
:I personally believe that a subtropical climate should be located at a subtropical latitude (below 34/35°N) or have a mean of at least 14.5/15°C in its coldest month and 22°C in its hottest month. But that really doesn't matter as I'm no researcher.
:The same applies to "Tropical climate". Koppen's classification does not put the Canaries at the Tropical category. Even though some locations do get values above 18ºC, they are deserts or semi-deserts precipitation-wise, thus qualified as hot desert climates. Look at [[Climate of Dubai|Dubai]] for example. I'm also pretty sure most papers will say that the Canaries have a subtropical desert climate. [[User:Average Portuguese Joe|Average Portuguese Joe]] ([[User talk:Average Portuguese Joe#top|talk]]) 23:16, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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