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== BLP-violating draft ==
 
Hi! I'm a little torn here (I also admit to being a little intimidated, having seen your name on things like Arbcom decisions as One Who Speaks Sense). While it's certainly nice to see an admin taking care to consider a speedy nomination instead of just hitting delete, I'm concerned that in [[Draft:Denezpi v. United States|this draft]] you then restored completely unsourced information alleging a named person was responsible for (and convicted of) various heinous offences. I've gone ahead and removed every instance of the name from the draft but remain concerned the surname is still in the title, the offending material is still archived in the history, and also by the question of if simply restoring it unedited was really in compliance with [[WP:BLPREVERT]].
 
Am I wrong? I probably am, to be fair, but something about this feels not in-tune with BLP policy. [[Special:Contributions/78.149.135.163|78.149.135.163]] ([[User talk:78.149.135.163|talk]]) 20:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
 
:Technically some stuff is cited - there are links in the Infobox to case related materials - including the Oral Argument whcih establishes some of the facts, though you are of course correct nothing is cited in-line. I wasn't going to point that out in the decline because the bigger point remains: this is a US Supreme Court case and so if there are negative facts about a BLP, well that's just the way it goes sometimes and for speedy deletion purposes this was not negative enough to justify deletion. Replacing the person's name with other language until better citation can be done in the draft does seem appropriate to me as well. And thanks for the kind words. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 20:24, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
::<nods thoughtfully> Thanks for the quick response. If I were a better writer/researcher I might try and source/expand the draft myself, as it strikes me as a reasonably important question of law. Certainly it seems better than the other drafts I found around the same time (now gone but see my deleted contribs for examples). Unfortunately I don't think I'm competent to do it. Thanks for all you do around here. [[Special:Contributions/78.149.135.163|78.149.135.163]] ([[User talk:78.149.135.163|talk]]) 20:28, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
 
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:@[[User:Colin|Colin]] you could delete that and make a new link you use in your response. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 19:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
 
Thank you Barkeep, [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]], [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] and [[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde93]] for considering my case as fairly as you can. I can only conclude that all four of you must have been terrible people in a previous life, and brought back to spend your evenings moderating the bickering of folk on the internet. -- [[User:Colin|Colin]]°[[User talk:Colin|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for closing, I did think we had a consensus for a general reminder re: AGF though. [[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde93]] ([[User talk:Vanamonde93|talk]]) 21:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde93]] Did we? You and I agreed, SFR was ambivalent to negative and Valereee didn't really comment on it. I'm obviously not opposed but I'm not sure it was there. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 21:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I guess I see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1245936683&diff=1245948753 this] as assent, but we can just ask {{U|ScottishFinnishRadish|him}}. [[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde93]] ([[User talk:Vanamonde93|talk]]) 22:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I'm pretty ambivalent. I don't think it does much, but I didn't want to hold up a possible consensus. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 23:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde93]] if you want to amend a statement to my close please do so. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 00:15, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, I will make a minimal amendment. [[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde93]] ([[User talk:Vanamonde93|talk]]) 00:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== AE, travel ==
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::::::::::"Without a clear demonstration of what exactly the problem is"? The allegations were very clear in identifying what the problem is. [[User:IOHANNVSVERVS|IOHANNVSVERVS]] ([[User talk:IOHANNVSVERVS|talk]]) 20:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Sorry for missing that question earlier. I wish there was a good tutorial for learning about AE. The rules and procedures are written in the box labeled "Important information". But how to write effective AE reports is something that doesn't exist as far as I know. However, most of the advice on how to write an effective [[Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Party_Guide/Case_request#Making_a_statement_at_a_case_request|ArbCom statement]] would also apply to AE. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 23:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
:Very clear evidence was presented that user x was misrepresenting the source you provided and which he and user y repeatedly reverted. His claim that the variant on the [https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/cleft-sentences-it-was-in-june-we-got-married wh-cleft structure] "What happened in 1948" was vague was shown to be false as it was clearly defined in the source as "massacres and expulsions at gunpoint" "which led to over 80 per cent of the Palestinian population being violently forced to flee". What BK49 seems not to want to say is that it is easier for AE admins to treat AE as though it were WP:AN3 where simple revert-counting is normally addressed. I too was sorry to see that the complaint was not treated seriously, as the evidence presented was very clear and in the context of a larger complaint it will likely be successfully muddied. While someone could reinitiate the same case with exactly the same evidence, mentioning both user x and user y, it would have been much simpler to give a 1RR warning without unilaterallyfalsely claiming that you were unilaterally edit-warring when there were {{purple|three}} people involved, counting user x (who made claims on the talk page) and user y (who did not).-- [[User:SashiRolls | SashiRolls]] <sup>[[User_talk:SashiRolls | 🌿 ]] · [[Special:Contributions/SashiRolls| 🍥]]</sup> 21:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
::The reason I haven't said {{tqq|What BK49 seems not to want to say is that it is easier for AE admins to treat AE as though it were WP:AN3 where simple revert-counting is normally addressed}} is because I don't think it's true. Instead I think {{tqq|The ask for a separate report is showing it's being taken seriously. Rather than nothing happening because it is buried as a small part of a large discussion of which it is not the focus, its own report means that conduct would be the focus.}} [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 15:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== Just making sure ==