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Kansas City Chiefs

Sorry, I did have it wrong previously. I looked more closely at the {{Infobox NFL team}} template and as far as I can tell, my second edit is using the parameters as intended. Those first 4 Super Bowls are messy. Wondering what are your thoughts on the issue? Thanks. Mojoworker (talk) 21:08, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

@Mojoworker: There have been a bunch of discussions about these issues since this year's Super Bowl, and while I haven't been paying too close attention on them, my thoughts are that whatever the NFL considers as "official" is what we should go with here. I believe the NFL considers all NFL championships (regardless of whether a Super Bowl was played that year), AFL championships, and Super Bowl titles as individual/separate "championships" and we should do the same here. Eagles 24/7 (C) 13:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Caleb Wilson

Not sure if you can do this, but would you mind reviewing File:Caleb Wilson.jpg on Commons? The problem with the licensing has been resolved, I talked to the uploader. The only thing is I uploaded a cropped version (not sure how that was possible) so that threw off Flickrreviewr. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 17:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: I'm not an administrator or reviewer on Commons, but it looks like the licensing won't be an issue now. Someone at Commons will look over it soon hopefully. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Updating

Hey I saw the talk page of Malcolm Jenkins a few days ago and I updated the article as well as several others. Do you know of any other NFL player articles that need to be updated LaDanian1000000 (talk) 06:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

@LaDanian1000000: There is a list here of 57 NFL-related pages that have update maintenance templates on them. Some of the items on this list just need specific sentences to be updated, you'll have to go through each one and figure out where the update is needed. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:03, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

XFL (2020)

Heads up, I saw you rightly RVing the flood of people trying to rewrite the article as "folded/ceased ops" is because the rumor going across social media this afternoon (including some credible sports social media sources) is the league just laid off employees this morning and is folding. I agree with your call that until there's an official announcement, it's just suspended like all the pro leagues due to the pandemic. --Bhockey10 (talk) 18:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bhockey10: Thanks for the support. I would like to clarify that the XFL has suspended all day-to-day league operations, unlike other leagues which have only suspended certain league operations. The NBA has suspended player transactions and the regular season, the NFL has suspended offseason workout programs, the NHL has suspended their regular season, but the XFL has suspended their entire league operation at the moment. The key here is the difference between "suspending" operations and "ceasing" operations, the latter implying that the league folded (which it has not yet done). If the league announces today that they've suspended operations, that still does not mean the league has folded. Eagles 24/7 (C) 18:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Now apparently there's no plan to return in 2021, contrary to earlier statements. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 20:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: That part seems to be based on anonymous sources, and still doesn't indicate the league has ceased operations today. The co-writer of that ESPN article tweeted: "To be clear, the XFL hasn't confirmed it is going out of business. But that was the impression at least some staffers got when listening to today's conference call." Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Buffalo Bills signings

Hi Eagles247, can you double check the references for some signings that you added for the Buffalo Bills? I don't see them as being official yet. These players are Taiwan Jones, Tyler Matakevich, A. J. Klein, and Quinton Jefferson. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

[I see that you added this reference, but it is no longer working for me right now (shows me a blank NFL transactions page). Natg 19 (talk) 21:57, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Natg 19: Yep, transactions listed on NFL.com are official. Sometimes official transactions occur and NFL.com doesn't show them, but the ones actually shown there are good. This shows Jones, Matakevich, Klein, and Jefferson were all officially signed. The team websites haven't been too great about reporting during this free agency period, some teams have only announced the "agreed to terms" or "according to reports" and then didn't send a follow-up for when they officially signed. Others don't announce official signings until days after they've actually been processed like Kyler Fackrell in this case. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:06, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I can confirm these signings are in there. Jefferson on March 26, Klein on March 27, and Jones and Matakevich on March 30. Don't know why the Bills didn't update this article announcing "reports". Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:06, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for double checking. Weird, I was having issues viewing that NFL.com page correctly, but I see the transaction list properly with the players now. Natg 19 (talk) 22:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

@Natg 19: I had an issue with the site for the entire month of February, luckily it worked itself out by the time free agency began. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:12, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Belichick

I used that format to show how far reaching his tree is. But I guess you’re right only people like me are into that sort of thing Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:23, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

As for the GMs I only put them in order of the year they got their first job so that should probably be reverted Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bigmike2346: I find it interesting as well, but for a general encyclopedia entry it's too much detail. I don't know if there's an NFL-specific fandom/wikia website, but it would likely be more relevant there. I'll revert back the GM order, you are correct. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:27, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Also I put the coaches in order Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:28, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

But the main reason I did it is to show that over a third of active head coaches in the nfl are part of the belichick tree Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:29, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Maybe I could add a few of them to the coaching tree page Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bigmike2346: I moved the coaches back in order per your edit. As long as you provide sources for your statements about his coaching tree, that would be fine. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

There is an espn article that covers most of it I’ll try to dig that up Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:35, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/22235093/connecting-all-2018-nfl-head-coaches-bill-parcells-bill-belichick#select Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Assisstance

Hello, How do I see my number of Wikipedia edits or Wikipedia "Statistics"  ? I have made a lot of edits but don't know how to see how many. could you tell me how I view that number? Editor940 (talk) 22:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Editor940, You can view it here. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:14, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Tarvaris Jackson

Hey Eagles247, hope you are well. I saw that removed the semi-protection on Tarvaris Jackson earlier. There has been some unsourced IP edits since then. Just wanted to put it on your radar. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

@LuK3: Thanks, I'm monitoring the page and will protect if vandalism spikes. So far only one instance of vandalism and one unconstructive edit since I unprotected. Additionally, I blocked the IP vandal for persistent vandalism spanning the past year. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:21, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

XFL Player contracts

Does the XFL going Bankrupt mean all the player's contracts are terminated? Joepecor2744 (talk) 22:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

@Joepecor2744: From what I've read, it appears all player contracts were terminated on April 10. I haven't found a definitive source that states exactly this yet, however. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Charles Rogers

Why would an improved link, avoiding a redirect, constitute grounds for reverting an edit? Hushpuckena (talk) 15:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

@Hushpuckena: See WP:NOTBROKEN. Eagles 24/7 (C) 15:56, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

1k-1k season

Concerning your edit here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christian_McCaffrey&type=revision&diff=950981940&oldid=950980061

Do you have a better suggestion for a header? They are often used for notable seasons; I believe this is one such notable season. DeathTrain (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

@DeathTrain: I personally don't see a need for editorialized headers of any kind outside of just the season. (Additionally, adding "Rookie year" to the first season header of every single NFL player page is redundant and crazy IMO.) They are neutral and informative enough as they are. If you disagree, feel free to start a talk page discussion with your ideas. Eagles 24/7 (C) 15:53, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

@Eagles247: What is so editorializing about that header? It is an objective description of the season. Is it possible for it to be given a less editorialized header? DeathTrain (talk) 15:59, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

@DeathTrain: By editorialized, I mean just excessive descriptions that may not be entirely neutral. The season name is already a neutral, accurate header. Wouldn't "First Pro Bowl", "First-team All-Pro season", "Last season with Ron Rivera" also be potential descriptors of his season? I've always been a proponent of just having the season name and if readers want to know about his "1k-1k season" (a term I've personally never heard of) they can figure it out pretty easily. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:04, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

@Eagles247: Here are a few sources that use it:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001092445/article/panthers-rb-christian-mccaffrey-joins-1k1k-club

https://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/panthers-rb-christian-mccaffrey-joins-1k1k-club-607192.html

https://247sports.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/Article/Christian-McCaffrey-2019-1000-rushing-yards-1000-receiving-yards-133863667/

I did not make up that term, but 1k-1k is more specific than any of those suggestions you proposed.DeathTrain (talk) 16:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

@DeathTrain: Second source is a copy-paste of the NFL.com article, but regardless of how many sources use the term to describe the trivial fact that McCaffrey joined the "1k-1k club" it shouldn't be used as a heading here. (By the way, just as a note, you do not need to use the {{re}} template on my talk page, I already get the notification from your post.) Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Why? Is it because they are "excessive descriptions"? How do we tell if they are such? I only add headers because many other articles have them, such as Peyton Manning or Ben Roethlisberger and I find that they help differentiate the seasons. DeathTrain (talk) 17:16, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

I started a discussion on the talk page, but this is really a discussion that impacts all NFL players or even all professional athletes. DeathTrain (talk) 15:58, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@DeathTrain: If you think it's a site-wide issue that needs to be discussed, posting at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League would be a good idea. However, the timing might not be great with the NFL Draft going on this weekend. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:00, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Pictures

Do you know how to add pictures for football coaches bios? If so would you be able to tell me how thanks Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:29, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bigmike2346: You'd need to find images that have copyrights consistent with Wikipedia's, mainly that they can be shared with attribution and re-used. See Wikipedia:Non-free content. I find image copyrights to be one of the most difficult things to grasp on Wikipedia, as the majority of images you see on Google are not allowed to be uploaded here for legal reasons. Sometimes people upload images to Flickr with copyrights that work on Wikipedia, and that's where you'll see many images come from. Otherwise, users will take their own pictures when they go to sporting events to upload here. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:51, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bigmike2346: If you find an image online that you think might be allowed for upload on Wikipedia, give me the link and I can help you out with it. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:54, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

What about Getty images? Bigmike2346 (talk) 22:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

And what sort of site could I find them on Bigmike2346 (talk) 22:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bigmike2346: Getty almost certainly has strict copyright for all of their images. It’s a photography company so they make money by selling their pictures. Their stock photos are highly unlikely to be of famous people. Your best bet is Flickr, but it’s very limited. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:50, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bigmike2346: The images you have uploaded to Commons are likely copyright violations, and I have tagged them for deletion there. Please check with me or another experienced user before uploading these images. Eagles 24/7 (C) 13:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

I took a picture from a YouTube video assuming that if there was no copyright there it should be good here Bigmike2346 (talk) 13:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bigmike2346: YouTube videos are frequently uploaded by the owners of the copyrighted material under licenses that do not permit reuse elsewhere. Since you did not provide a source for your uploads, I am unable to verify the copyright status of those screenshots. Eagles 24/7 (C) 13:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Football Season

Is NFL and College Football seasons going to start as scheduled? Kilebogart0 (talk) 16:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

@Kilebogart0: Too early to know. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:36, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Making a new category

Do you think I can make a category of Belichick players who became coaches? and if so how would I be able to start? Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bigmike2346: I don't normally work with category creations, but I highly doubt that categorization would be appropriate on Wikipedia. Many NFL players eventually become coaches, and it's too trivial to have a category set of coaches who at one time were coached by a particular individual. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay thanks Bigmike2346 (talk) 20:16, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

UDFA's

Since theres an article on NFL.com constantly updating the UDFA list, should we start adding those players to the rosters? PhoenixRancor (talk) 5:48, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

@PhoenixRancor: I don't believe that tracker is too reliable, it says it lists "reported" signings as well as announced signings. I'd only go with signings announced as official by teams. Eagles 24/7 (C) 12:03, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Active NFL head coach career super bowl history

Why out of nowhere do you want to delete the page I created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_NFL_head_coach_career_Super_Bowl_history ? It doesn't get the most hits in the world until playoff time.Zdawg1029 (talk) 17:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

@Zdawg1029: Notability is not about article views, it's about amount of coverage in reliable sources. In this case, it appears the article is simply listcruft and does not warrant its own article based on Wikipedia's policies. Feel free to make your case at the articles for deletion discussion page you've linked above, but keep in mind your argument would hold more weight if it's based on policies, guidelines, and essays. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:26, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Dude are you serious? If that's the case, lets get rid of the "officials" page, or how about the commercials page, which has 3 sub pages off of that. All of those are useless. My page at least has useful information on it that people seem to enjoy. Wow, some people take their Wiki jobs way to seriously. Zdawg1029 (talk) 22:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

@Zdawg1029: This isn’t a job, I’m just a volunteer like you. We have policies and guidelines like any other community, and if you’re not interested in abiding by them, you might be on the wrong website. There is already a List of Super Bowl head coaches page, and comparing Active NFL head coach career Super Bowl history to List of Super Bowl officials and List of Super Bowl commercials is silly (other stuff exists anyway). WP:ITSUSEFUL is not a good argument to keep an article. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:39, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

There’s following guidelines, then there’s inflicting personal feeling on something. This page follows all the guidelines, that’s why it was originally accepted and why it’s been up for 7 years. I think you just personally don’t think it’s necessary so you are going after it. In what way is it not following guidelines? You say listcruft, be more specific. I think you fail to see the importance of the information, as well as the interesting nature of it. Super Bowls won is sometimes used as a measuring stick as to how good a coach is. Not to mention the second part of the article which easily shows what coaches worked together on particular super bowl winning teams. You say you’re a fan of the nfl, if you don’t find information like this interesting I would beg to differ. Zdawg1029 (talk) 02:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, as I pointed out on the discussion page for deletion, it would fit as a sub category on the Super Bowl Head Coaches page, but because, and as it says on the lustcruft page, there is too much content for it to be added to that article and thus should have its own. Zdawg1029 (talk) 03:01, 28 April 2020 (UTC)