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WikiProject Video games Newsletter Q3

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume 11, No. 2 — 3nd Quarter, 2019
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Project At a Glance
As of Q3 2019, the project has:

• 231 Featured Articles
• 82 Featured Lists
• 11 Featured Topics
• 1 Featured Portals

• 32 Featured Pictures
• 1,470 Good Articles
• 29 Good Topics

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• News items and announcements

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Category:Video game downloadable content packs has been nominated for discussion

Category:Video game downloadable content packs, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:41, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

How to categorize Battlerite and Bleeding Edge?

Why you removed whole section? There is no team brawler article on wikipedia.EchoBlu (talk) 22:46, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@EchoBlu: Because it was entirely unsourced and had details that are wrong, mostly. I said as much in my edit summary. WP:V must be met for all content. "Team brawler" doesn't have an article because it's not really recognized as a separate genre. That a MOBA game doesn't have every single aspect doesn't really make a new genre. -- ferret (talk) 22:47, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@Ferret:So you telling me that Bleeding Edge can be categorized as a MOBA? Is it better to somehow mention "team brawler" under the MOBA article? When you go on the Bleeding Edge page, the game is categorized as a brawler. EchoBlu (talk) 22:52, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@EchoBlu: What store pages and official sites call things isn't what we go by. We go by reliable sources. That's why we call Dota 2 a MOBA, even though Valve still calls it an "Action RTS". A quick review of sources shows Bleeding Edge being called a "MOBA-like" or "MOBA-lite" or "Bridges the gap between MOBAs and Overwatch", etc. The term "Team brawler" didn't come up in my quick search. If it can't be clearly defined, you can leave it blank, but no one would argue much with listing "Moba-like" or similar.

@Ferret: "Team brawler" came up in google search very often, but I understand your point EchoBlu (talk) 14:34, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Topic about Vampires

https://imagecomics.fandom.com/wiki/Bludd did you not read the wiki page already?--2601:403:4280:E170:68F6:FA13:AB84:F4AF (talk) 15:20, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Fandom/Wikia are not reliable sources. These aren't covered by reliable sources and aren't notable for inclusion on Wikipedia. -- ferret (talk) 15:27, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

List of Spawn deities and BlazBlue deities

Did you not read Spawn or played BlazBlue?

https://imagecomics.fandom.com/wiki/Man_of_Miracles Man of Miracles is the supreame being of the Spawn universe with God and Satan being her children. There is also the Dark God Urizen.

Yuuki Terumi is Susano'o a god from the BlazBlue series.Also Amateratsu and Tsukiyomi are gods in BlazBlue so there are deities in BlazBlue.

https://blazblue.wiki/wiki/Susano%27o

--2601:403:4280:E170:68F6:FA13:AB84:F4AF (talk) 15:24, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Not relevant. They aren't notable on Wikipedia and are unsourced, WP:V. This kind of detail belongs on wikia and fandom, etc. -- ferret (talk) 15:25, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Ferret, please explain me

Hello,

20:31, 17. Nov. 2019: Reverted to revision 925642157 by 101.98.122.91 (talk): Mass of issues and MOS problems.

Can you explain my mistakes?

Jicco123 (talk) 18:41, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

@Jicco123: I seriously don't have time to enumerate all the things, many of which you've been repeatedly told. One obvious one however is removing italics from the titles of media items. Game titles, books, TV shows, series names, etc, are always in italics. -- ferret (talk) 18:43, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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New Vegas is not a spin off

Hi! New Vegas was developed by the original developers of the series and it follows the canon of Fallout 1 and 2 (and by some means Fallout 3). So it is by no means a spin off. ComradeUranium (talk) 20:41, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@ComradeUranium: It's a spinoff because reliable secondary sources refer to it as such. The fact that it faithfully follows lore of other games doesn't change that. It's not considered a main line entry by reliable sources, which is how Wikipedia is built. -- ferret (talk) 20:44, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

But still in the article there are no references that claim the game is a spin off. ComradeUranium (talk) 20:48, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@ComradeUranium: This is a perennial discussion. Read some of the reviews. Most start off with "New Vegas, a new spin-off in the Fallout series" or similar such phrases. -- ferret (talk) 22:03, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Sure, most gaming "journalists" don't know exactly what they're talking about. And some might be Bethesda fanboys as well or paid by them. I wouldn't doubt it, considering how low Bethesda has fallen with Fallout 76, which is truly a spin-off. ComradeUranium (talk) 23:03, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Thats not a real good attitude to have if you’re going to be editing Wikipedia. The entire premise is to write content entirely according to what reliable sources will verify. According to Wikipedia’s standards, that means the “gaming journalist” you just put scare quotes around. Here, they would be a prominent authority on such content... Sergecross73 msg me 23:09, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no time for Bethesda vs Obsidian fan boy fights. -- ferret (talk) 23:19, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

I guess it's time for you to open your eyes and check how things really are. Other language versions have New Vegas listed under the main series, because that's how it is. The game is often mistakenly called a spin-off because it doesn't follow the numerical title like other installments (1, 2, 3, 4) and was not developed by Bethesda, who currently own the rights to the Fallout franchise. The game is 100 % canon, which for instance the BoS installments aren't and thus are listed as spin-offs. ComradeUranium (talk) 20:25, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

@ComradeUranium: Spin offs can be canon, not sure why everyone brings that up. Enwiki goes by reliable secondary sources. Not all projects and languages have the same guidelines and policies. Enwiki's tend to be stricter. Please don't change it again, I'd like to not have to block you. -- ferret (talk) 20:28, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You’re free to open up further discussions on it on the articles talk page, and make your change if you get a WP: CONSENSUS that supports it. But if you change it without a consensus to change, your account will likely get blocked, and you’ll likely need to come up with a better argument, because, as already explained, that’s not usually the standards or criteria that are used on Wikipedia. Your argument isn’t likely to be persuasive here. Sergecross73 msg me 20:32, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/222.7.2.157

Would you mind looking into this IP? I'm pretty sure this is Raymondskie99. They just tried to restore the Piranha Plant article again that's suspiciously similar to the one Raymondskie made a few months ago. JOEBRO64 00:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Ahem

1. There is no reason for Herve Roy's page to mention 2Girls1Cup. It's disrespectful to Herve's legacy. 2. Can you talk to TV Tropes and see if you can get me unblocked? I have the same username and email address as here.2A00:23C4:6B3C:C100:60B3:DF79:8A41:348E (talk) 23:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

We don't necessarily care about Herve Roy's "legacy", the song's usage in 2Girls1Cup is reliably sourced and covered. No, I can't help you with blocks on TVTropes. Seems like you have a habit of being blocked from sites. -- ferret (talk) 00:52, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

(For the talk page watchers, blocked this IP. LTA, have been blocking them for years now, always come back to make the same edits.) -- ferret (talk) 00:56, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Some help you are. I've been blocked permanently for no reason. Couldn't they have just blocked me for a few months for me to think about it?LydiaPrower8 (talk) 01:56, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming this was you. I thought it was but was giving the benefit of a doubt. -- ferret (talk) 02:06, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, is there any reason why is Auto battler page deleted?

@Ferret: Hi administrator! Is there any reason why is Auto battler page removed (with the explanation: "this really doesn't need its own article, all of this can fit nicely back on the section"). Why is Auto battler the only subgenre that "really doesn't need its own article")? I know it's not you, but page was removed from some big editor, so I want to know is there some bigger reason? Do we need to discuss first? I didn't add some random text to random article, I created page of the new genre, which already have several games from "big name" publishers. Thank you. EchoBlu (talk) 07:32, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

EchoBlu: keep expanding it and the argument that it doesn’t have enough material for its own article will be diminished. If you need extra opinions, try a post at WT:VG. Thank you for your contributions! –xeno^talk 09:46, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Regarding "Mods" section of Battlefield 1942

I noticed that you remove some articles on it, particularly on BattleGroup42 section which having it's own website and properly cited; the old one (which can only viewed through The Wayback Machine) and the current one. Al13326 (talk) 22:09, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

@Al13326: Because there is no secondary sourcing, as my edit note stated. Any mod site could add itself and link it's own site. What is needed to denote some sort of significance is coverage by a reliable secondary source. The remaining entries all have reviews from various sites or magazines. -- ferret (talk) 01:01, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

“Anti-vandalism”

Please stop removing content from Ninjago. Everything I posted there was true. It holds aspects of romance as well as political aspects. The whole series was based around a futuristic version of feudal Japan, showing extreme Japanese conservatism as a future possibility, thus forcing their belief on viewers. HeccingCommie (talk) 19:43, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

@HeccingCommie: Your additions are unsourced and appeared to be vandalism. If you can provide sources for these genres, then use the talk page to present them. -- ferret (talk) 19:53, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

"IceMario851"

Hi, ferret. This is IceMario851 and I noticed that you deleted my changes on List of best selling video game consoles, but the information was accurate, as seen here. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/04/nintendo-switch-hits-us-sales-record-during-black-friday-week.html

Please explain. IceMario851. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IceMario851 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 5 December 2019 (UTC)