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== Article split ==
Hi, I'd like it if you could weigh in on the article split of the [[Sea Shepherd Conservation Society|SSCS]] article, I'm holding off touching anything else there until this is settled so that I don't have to duplicate it in the future and I don't put effort into something that people evidently don't want to have.--[[User:Terrillja|<
:Comments noted, split again, hopefully this will be more acceptable. For the future, the better way to have handled the ops article would have been to redirect it and then comment it out instead of adding a comment as it was a "live" mainspace page, if someone stumbled across it they would have had no clue what was going on there.--[[User:Terrillja|<
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*[[Smith & Caughey's]] could use [[Template:Infobox company]] (not sure whether that's the most appropriate one - you could have a look whether there's one for department stores, say)
Regarding [[Waikaraka Cycleway]], I have yet to find a suitable infobox for pathways that aren't railtrails or inside of urban areas.
I hope you find this suggestion useful. Let me know if you want a hand or have any questions that might be easier answered here than you trawling through pages and pages of WP documentation. '''[[User:Schwede66|<
:Thanks, I know about infoboxes - I created [[Template:Infobox New Zealand suburbs]]! I haven't gotten around to rolling that out all over all of the many Auckland suburbs yet (maybe 30-40% at most at the moment) so I guess I'll be a bit slow in updating my other articles. I am also working a lot on Commons sorting and uploading images so I have reduced my work here on Wikipedia a bit (not that it feels like it ;-). [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 23:42, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::There's me trying to teach you how to suck eggs then. Good template that. I've used it on [[Christchurch Central City]] and had planned to roll it out for Christchurch. What's stopping me, though, is that there doesn't seem to be a geographical definition for Christchurch suburbs anywhere, which I find quite astounding. '''[[User:Schwede66|<
:::Auckland has the same problem: city and telecom/post and elections people have some definitions, but no one really agrees. I have decided that making a call here and there is not OR - so I have been using the Google maps definitions instead. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 23:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Google maps definitions - what is that? Can you show me an example please? '''[[User:Schwede66|<
:::::Okay, maybe "definitions" is too big a word for it. Just using the maps, scroll out far enough that most street names and identifiers disappear - except for the suburbs - and then use that to identify which suburbs lie around suburb X for the template. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 04:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
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:::Happy to keep this here, not an issue with leaving the discussion out in the open. Any further talk about this should be at [[Talk:Neptune's Navy]], though. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 05:23, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
For the future, could you please add the references to the end of the sentence, adding them in the middle of the sentence mades it hard to read and disjointed.--[[User:Terrillja|<
:But then people like him will tell me my references are too far away from what I am claiming to reference!!! And in a more serious vein, placing them within paragraphs HAS significant advantages if the contents are rewritten. It can otherwise be bloody hard to find which references referenced what. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 05:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
::I'm talking about after the sentence, not the paragraph. It can be good if the sentence is rewritten, but otherwise it makes it a pain to read, especially if you have a block of 3 or 4 citations together.--[[User:Terrillja|<
:::Fair enough - I don't mind it much, but I can see your point.[[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 05:35, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
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== [[Blake J. Robbins v. Lower Merion School District]] ==
Hey, I'm Hunter Kahn. I just wanted to reach out and congratulate you for the [http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/school-accused-of-using-webcam-to-photograph-student-at-home/ shout out] the article you created, [[Blake J. Robbins v. Lower Merion School District]], received in the NY Times today! I also wanted to express my admiration for that article, as well as the inclusionist philosophy you outlined on your userpage. Good stuff. I hope you don't mind, but I've [[Template talk:Did you know#Articles created.2Fexpanded on February 18|nominated the article for DYK]], giving you credit as author, of course. Once again, well done! — <b>[[User:Hunter Kahn|<
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== AR category ==
Hi Ingolfson, would you mind replacing the Animal rights movement category and removing the activist one? It's there for a reason, namely that not all members can be considered activists. [[User:SlimVirgin|<
:You're adding academics as animal rights activists. It's not accurate, and yet it's hard to decide with some of them, which is why we stuck with the movement category. [[User:SlimVirgin|<
::In that case, move those who you are not considering "activists" out of it again, and back into the "animal rights movement" category, or into categories (currently non-existent) like "people associated with animal rights". The fact that there are not always tidy lines between things like "being active for something" and "being an ACTIVIST" does not mean that subcategories become useless or even discouraged. In fact, the animal rights category is a prime example why we need such subcategories. "Animal rights" is so crowded with people articles that it is hard to find the non-people articles. Also, have a look at [[:Category:Activists by issue]]. There is a whole parent category just for categories like the one I reinstated!!! [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 06:49, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::An example of how your argument is lacking is found at [[Frances Power Cobbe]] where you reverted my change. It says right there in her article's lede that she WAS an aanimal rights activist. She FOUNDED several advocacy groups. The only semi-logical reason I can see for you to revert that move of mine is that for you, "animal rights activism" = "people who break illegally into labs, etc..." - however, that is a way too narrow interpretation. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 06:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::You will have to start a proposal somewhere if you want that; you can't just move them without discussion, because this has been discussed and decided before. You've moved people into the activists cat who aren't activists. And it's close to impossible with many of them to decide who is. There's no need for yet another AR subcat. We already have ALF, PETA etc. [[User:SlimVirgin|<
:::::::Please do not revert me. It is you who is undoing my work. I've been maintaining this category for years, and you are not meant to use Hotcat that way. It says on the page that this kind of use can be regarded as vandalism. [[User:SlimVirgin|<
::::::::I would respect you for your years of work - except that using "seniority" to block change is about the worst argument you can use it for. I will now seek mediation for your edit warring. There would have been nothing lost from you waiting for a resolution. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 07:18, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
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:On a personal level, it is deplorable that we got at loggerheads like that. I worked a lot on Commons over the last years, and a category like animal rights activism, with tons of material not diffused into subcategories, is a bit of a red flag for me. I hope we can find a reasonable compromise. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson|talk]]) 07:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, I'm sure we will find a solution. I'm not quite sure why it would be a red flag though. What I want to avoid is any false attempt to impose an activist category on some of them, because it's so unclear and fuzzy, and quite wrong if we apply it retroactively. We would end up getting tied in unnecessary knots. [[User:SlimVirgin|<
::Red flag in the sense of "Ooooohhh, badly maintained category alert! Must take out my tools and cleaning gear and hammer out an appropriate subcategory structure and then sweep it all into the correct boxes. I said I was "Commons"-dominated these last years. I am constantly sorting horrible hodge-podges of sub-categories there. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 08:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't see how it's a badly maintained category. And it's the sweeping into boxes thing that worries me, because they would be the wrong boxes. Then you would disappear, and I'd be left with the mess to somehow sort out, and then maintain, not to mention the BLP violations. I just can't take on that extra work. [[User:SlimVirgin|<
::::Uhm, you do sound as if you are taking this all a bit TOO serious (I know, because I have weaned myself away from that very slowly). I have written some very, very beautiful articles on Wikipedia (like [[Seacliff Lunatic Asylum]] - that is probably my best one yet!). And I have created category structures on Commons that are intricate, yet totally logical and sensible (= beautiful). But since they are both on Wikis, they are constantly "under threat" of being changed - vandalised even. One day I will leave anyway (either because I die or lose interest), so they are by default not eternal. If I let that get to me (more than it already does), I would be a nervous wreck. About several hundred (articles) times over.
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::::As for "badly maintained category", it is obviously not so for you. For me, it is a category where it is harder to find something than it would have to be, because so MANY articles are lumped in together. No matter whether I get you to agree to a category like "activists" (I suspect not), could you please consider a category like "People associated with the animal rights movement"? That would be very neutral, and it would allow moving of the biography articles into a subcat. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 08:17, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't mind that: animal rights movement (people), perhaps. It's tricky because the movement ''is'' the people, really. Often the "groups" are just names that a bunch of people use to do a particular thing; they have no separate existence.<p> One of the problems I find with WP cats and subcats is that they're often so particular, the connections between things get lost, and/or they become harder to find, so they actually end up being less informative. That's something I'd like to try to avoid here. How many entries in your view should be in a category or sub-category before it becomes unwieldy? [[User:SlimVirgin|<
::::::P.S. I do like [[Seacliff Lunatic Asylum]]. It has the potential to be a featured article; an interesting read, nicely written. :) [[User:SlimVirgin|<
Hi SL, one thing where you are/were certainly right is that I might suddenly have no time to keep maintaining an article/category, especially as you ARE right that you have a lot of work on animal rights articles, while all I did was work for a month or two on Sea Shepherd related articles... - as for "how many" should go into a subcategory - well at least enough that the main category doesn't need to be over two pages anymore (less than 200 items). More to the point however, I think that there should be a category (like "Animal rights movement (people)") for ALL biography articles except those opposed to animal rights obviously. I do not see the problem with the groups being "just" fronts for these people. Even if I'd take that view - they are still concepts, whereas the biography articles are about, well, people, not concepts. Hope I am making some sense [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 03:01, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
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== DYK ==
Good to see you today. As discussed, [[Edward Richardson]] is the article. Would appreciate the copyright links. '''[[User:Schwede66|<
== Auckland Meetup 5 on 9 May 2010 ==
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== Probably just an oversight/slip but... ==
...is there any reason why you categorised [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alps_to_Ocean_Cycle_Trail&diff=prev&oldid=373232108 this] as Southland? :) [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
:Probably a copy-paste error from when I first created [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Around_the_Mountain_Cycle_Trail this one] and then used it as a quick template. Thanks, Cheers. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 06:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
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== Suburbs template ==
Hi there, I haven't seen you in a while; I hope you are well (including the fingers). [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 November 1]] might interest you, in case you haven't seen it. '''[[User:Schwede66|<
:Ok, maybe I should have read the previous talk page item... '''[[User:Schwede66|<
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==Nice job==
How pleasant to find we had a decent article already on the [[Pike River mine]] before the recent accident. I see the article has had over 5000 views in the last day. Thanks for your hard work over many years.-[[User talk:gadfium|<
:No problem, thanks for the kind words - I stumbled across this article subject in an engineering society magazine while on one of my "must create new articles" binges ;-) These days I seem to do more over at Wikimedia Commons - but I didn't manage to go down there yet to take some photos, I guess. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 02:57, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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== NZHPT ==
Hi there, I see you are doing work on Commons. I'm currently going through a big effort tidying up the NZHPT files on Commons. Would you mind lending a hand? I'm trying to get everything out of the [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:New_Zealand_Historic_Places_Trust_Register parent category]. Could you deal with the [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:NZHPT_register_in_the_Auckland_Region Auckland Region] structures and categorise them? '''[[User:Schwede66|<
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== NZTA ==
Could you please add [[New Zealand Transport Agency]] to your watchlist? I don't want to run into problems with [[WP:3RR]]. Cheers. '''[[User:Schwede66|<
I don't really do any watchlisting anymore on Wikipedia these days - too much else to do. But I may have the occasional check in the near future. Oh, and 3RR, as far as I would argue, applies not to reverting unexplained removals of sourced content, nor to reverts of anonymous or 1-edit editors, which in all likelihood are the same person anyway. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 05:05, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
:No trouble, and thanks for the info. '''[[User:Schwede66|<
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== Endeans Building ==
Hello my friend, I've written an article about [[John Endean]] and if you happen to be in town on a nice day, I'd appreciate if you could take a nice photo of the [http://www.historic.org.nz/TheRegister/RegisterSearch/RegisterResults.aspx?RID=4597&m=advanced Endeans Building]. '''[[User:Schwede66|<
: I have some reasonably crappy ones already, but presume you aren't interested in those ;-) Will keep it in mind next time I am over there. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson#top|talk]]) 09:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
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