Throast

Poster

Hi there. I don't know why you think the file you uploaded has the correct saturation and if its contrast were changed, it would look like this. Warner Bros. own page shows a different and clearly worse version than the two files here, but the others, including the original film website (archived here) and IMP Awards show that the png version is the correct one. Have a nice day. nyxærös 19:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

And do you know what happened to the image that was there before you replaced it with yours? throast (talk) 20:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it was deleted per WP:FCSD. You might find it archived on the archive.org though. nyxærös 20:07, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I see. I'd like to add that your argument doesn't disprove mine. Warner Bros. could have just as well used an altered version, so can IMP Awards. Per my argument, the image I added can only be the original one when it is compared to yours because more detail is retained. throast (talk) 20:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, maybe we should discuss this further on the film's talk page then, see how other editors think. I personally believe that the original site, which was active during the film's theatrical release, is sufficient as a source and should be considered the best source unless proven otherwise. nyxærös 20:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I honestly didn't expect you to bring up the original film website. :D So you do have the upper hand here. I don't think setting up a discussion on the talk page is worth the hassle. I appreciate the civil discourse. Cheers throast (talk) 14:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Here's a barnstar for you to enjoy. I am impressed by how you cleaned up the article on the Angry Grandpa and did such a good job with the cleanup and condensing information. SlugStream (talk) 19:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh my gosh, thank you! Throast (talk) 00:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

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Question

I apologize in advance for writing here (I don’t know if I’m supposed to T_T) but Wikipedia is so confusing at first and I’m still trying to figure it out… First of all, thanks for the feedback on the Gabbie Hanna edit!! It’s incredibly appreciated cause, again, I’m new and I still have to get the knack of it. Secondly, I think your comment might have been probably directed at the controversies section – because the rest of the things I added were largely updates of stuff that was already up on there – and I do want to try to explain myself (obviously, if it is contrast with Wikipedia’s guidelines, I won’t put it anymore!!). Preface: Gabbie Hanna is one of my favorite singers lol. Her second EP, Bad Karma, is a response to all her past controversies and deals with basically everything that she has gone through from 2019 to 2021. But you cannot grasp the full scope of the EP without a background of her controversies, cause without context it largely does not make sense. (example: the song Special is about her controversy with Smiles, drama channels, Paytas and Kenza. Call Me Crazy is about Paytas. Etc.) Still, I would appreciate a lot a response and some suggestions on how I should write/do edits next time!! Thanks in advance!! Charlotte 92 emma (talk) 22:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

I totally understand, I've been on here for eight years and it's still confusing to me. I left you a response on your talk page. Throast (talk) 22:41, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Would you mind going through my changes for Gabbie Hanna's article and telling me the specific things that were wrong? I just created a page for her upcoming debut album and I want to add it in her own article but at this point I'm afraid whatever I will write will be reverted lol Also, I spent a lot of time on that article and gathered all the references so if possible I would like to salvage as much as possible and keep all the things that were good/relevant. Thanks in advanceCharlotte 92 emma (talk) 08:00, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Charlotte 92 emma, I'm afraid Gabbie Hanna unnamed debut album (GH1) will likely be deleted as it clearly violates WP:FUTUREALBUM and WP:CRYSTAL. Before you edit, let alone create, any more articles, please get yourself acquainted with Wikipedia's policies!

When I reverted your first batch of edits to the Gabbie Hanna article here, I left an edit summary citing some policies which I further explained on your talk page.

PLEASE check out this page before making any further edits and read through the policies I linked to in my edit summary, your talk page etc. If you need any further guidance, go to the Teahouse to get in touch with experienced editors. Throast (talk) 09:06, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the heads up!! I understand if you will delete it, sorry again.

One thing that I would like to point out tho is that Youtubers who make music rarely get independent coverage, even her 2 released work have gotten 2 or 3 articles at best, so while I do understand wikipedia's policy and the need to enforce it, it's hard when people just don't give coverage to the person you're trying to write an article about.

Charlotte 92 emma, notability is what it's all about. If there's no significant coverage by reliable independent secondary sources on the subject (plus some additional criteria depending on the subject), there should be no article on Wikipedia. Perhaps Gabbie Hanna has her own Fandom or other fan based forums where you can contribute. If you want to continue editing here, I hope you take my advice to heart. Cheers! Throast (talk) 09:47, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

File:Gabbie Hanna Genius interview.png

The youtube video doesn't appear to be under a free license. Is there something I'm missing?©Geni (talk) 04:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Geni You're right, I thought I'd checked for it but must have confused it with another YouTube video. Sorry for the inconvenience. Throast (talk) 10:40, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Gabbie Hanna podcast interview

I note that you follow the article about Gabbie Hanna. I added a link to a podcast interview on the theory that it might be of interest to readers wanting to learn more about her, did you manage to watch it? - knoodelhed (talk) 14:13, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

@Scott Sanchez: The hosts of the podcast are biased towards her as evident by the support they show her at points throughout the episode. I don't think the source is neutral enough to include as prominently in the external links section. Throast (talk | contribs) 13:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Revert

Just letting you know that you reverted my edit but all I did was fix the citation template, so the Hollywood Reporter citation and whatever problems there were with the link are still there but not in a cite template properly. Not sure if it should be removed or just needs a link fixing or something so I'll leave it to you but thought you should know. Alduin2000 (talk) 17:42, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh never mind, I see you already realised haha. Alduin2000 (talk) 17:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@Alduin2000: Thanks anyway for letting me know here, in case I hadn't realized. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for fixing the citation template. Throast (talk | contribs) 17:48, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi dear user

I found this edit to be over the top, please correct me if i'm wrong but, all the sources i put are reliable and numerous. What's undue about what i wrote?--Hotbox eron (talk) 14:40, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

You removed credits, wikilinks, well sourced encyclopedic informations for what? I'm really not getting it--Hotbox eron (talk) 14:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

@Hotbox eron: Please take a look at WP:UNDUE, WP:TMI, WP:RS, and WP:OVERLINK, policies which, in my opinion, your edits are in conflict with. Going into strenuous detail about one particular song, unreleased at that, is a good example of undue content. This article is about the album as a whole. It would be excessive to dissect every single song on the album. Also, YouTube videos as sources are generally inferior compared to articles published by reputable publications in my opinion. You state that other journalists are included but Charlamagne tha God is neither a journalist nor a music critic, he is a radio host. His opinion on the album might be included but before you add it, I would recommend you to seek consensus for it on the article talk first, as his off the cuff remarks are in contrast with the written reviews by music critics for reputable publications that are otherwise featured in the "critical reception" section. Throast (talk | contribs) 15:40, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I understand your point now, I'll fix my edit--Hotbox eron (talk) 16:30, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

@Hotbox eron: There are still WP:OVERLINK issues in your edit and you did not explain the removal of cited content in the "critical reception" section. The keyboarders who worked on the track "Hurricane" are already credited in the "personnel" section and do not belong in the "producer" column of the table. I will address your edit but please refrain from reverting back to your version. Instead of edit warring, seek consensus on the talk if you disagree. Throast (talk | contribs) 16:43, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Donda

I was not starting an edit war, as only one edit was reverted and I won't readd the content since I now understand why it's redundant so no talk page debate is required. --K. Peake 07:18, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Hey, sorry for the late response. An edit war is not always started in bad faith and I can see that we are both trying to improve the article. An edit war is started once an editor reverts back to their preferred version after they have already been reverted. Hence, the editor introducing the disputed edit is supposed to then seek consensus for their edit once they have been reverted. Thank you for understanding. Throast (talk | contribs) 09:10, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

I am aware of the faith guideline about edit warring, but I thought it only counted as warring if you reverted more than once? If I was still in disagreement with you about this actual content for instance, I would have posted on the Donda talk page. --K. Peake 15:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: You might be referring to the three-revert rule, which is merely a "bright-line rule" that, if broken, can lead to a block. Edit warring describes a general pattern of behavior which I described above. The 3RR is there to deal with particularly bad cases of edit warring. Anyway, this was just supposed to be a clarification, I understand that the issue is settled now. Throast (talk | contribs) 16:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Wrong Website Under “About”

Wrong website or no website shows up when Nicki Minaj name is Googled every few days. It’ll show the the correct site under “About” when Nicki Minaj name is Googled, then disappears or shows an inactive website (mypinkfriday.com) a few days later.

Who keeps removing her correct website under “About” when her name is Googled? It’s being done by someone here. I believe it’s you, Throat. Rvaughn21 (talk) 02:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

@Rvaughn21: What are you even talking about? Google knowledge panels have nothing to do with Wikipedia. Why would you bring that up here, let alone accuse me without any evidence? Throast (talk | contribs) 11:06, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

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Anarchyte (talk) 13:34, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Throast, congrats on being granted the right, looking through some of your accepts, here are some minor mistakes I found:

Special:Diff/1048364144 Spacing needs to be corrected before accepting

Special:Diff/1048356589 I'm not 100% sure about this one but editor claimed the king was "Michael Gurguis" although Seru Epenisa Cakobau seems to contradict that (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here)

Please note that none of these violates any of the guidelines in Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes#General criteria, but it's best to correct mistakes before accepting. Thanks for keeping the backlog down for (looking at Special:AdvancedReviewLog) quite some time and have fun reviewing changes :D Justiyaya 17:05, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Justiyaya: Thank you very much for notifying me, it's my first day as a reviewer and I'm currently working on getting a handle on it. How do I correct an edit before I accept it? Or am I supposed to accept first and then immediately correct manually? Throast (talk | contribs) 17:13, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Oh, if you edit the page, before you publish it, next the minor edit box there is an accept all pending edits option which you can click on, if you choose not to select that option, your edit will be published without being accepted. Justiyaya 17:15, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

You might find the pending changes sandboxes useful if you want to test stuff out but you seem to have most figured out already. Justiyaya 17:17, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Justiyaya: Got it. For some reason it didn't occur to me that I can just edit the page when looking at the diff. Thank you. Throast (talk | contribs) 17:34, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Welcome :D Justiyaya 17:35, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Pending changes note to self

On October 5 at 17:38 UTC, I meant to revert this edit instead of this edit as vandalism. For some reason, perhaps due to another user simultaneously trying to revert that edit, mine was overridden. I am aware that the edit I accidentally reverted does not count as vandalism, though I can't undo it now unfortunately. Throast (talk | contribs) 17:43, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Looking at the history of the article, no damage appears to have been done :D

I would've probably reverted too, just with a different edit summary

You have gained a (talk page watcher) Justiyaya 18:17, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

H3h3 productions revert

Hey I saw you reverted two of my edits. The one about the description, I would describe them more as a YouTube duo than a channel (singular) as they have multiple channels covering multiple topics. And their more active channel is not h3h3hproductions. And my other edit was about the speculation of why the viewership surged, even if the source said it, it doesn't mean it's the objective truth, which is why I think it should be reverted. Thanks. Perfecnot (talk) 23:08, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

@Perfecnot: The title of the article is "h3h3productions", which clearly suggests that the article is about this specific channel. The lead supports this by saying h3h3productions is a YouTube channel..., hence "YouTube channel" is the most accurate description. The article title is not "Ethan and Hila Klein", in which case the short description you've proposed might be more fitting.

Regarding the sourced content you removed as "speculation": One of Wikipedia's key principles is that material that is verifiable must not be removed simply because someone thinks it might be objectively untrue, which you might want to read up on. As I stated in my edit summary, the claim you removed is very much verified by the source. Thank you. Throast (talk | contribs) 23:52, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Would the H3 Podcast (Their main channel now) be deserving of a blurb then? They are ranked like top 20 podcasts in America by viewership. Perfecnot (talk) 00:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

@Perfecnot: No. If you believe the podcast meets standalone notability, you might as well create a new article. The article as it stands now is about the YouTube channel "h3h3productions". Throast (talk | contribs) 00:29, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I just looked up what a blurb was, I meant an article. My bad Perfecnot (talk) 00:32, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Glad we came to a consensus regarding the article :) Perfecnot (talk) 18:07, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Perfecnot: Yeah 👍 Throast (talk | contribs) 18:44, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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Anarchyte (talk) 13:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Congrats :D Justiyaya 14:21, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

@Justiyaya: Thanks! Throast (talk | contribs) 16:09, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

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Being paid by h3 podcast

It is not legal for you to vandalize my page because you are being paid by Ethan Klein and h3. Please cease 2603:8001:9301:737:30FE:B0F7:7DAB:3587 (talk) 07:07, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

This is clearly a defamatory claim with zero evidence and coming from a user with self-reported conflict of interest (i.e. "my page"). - Popoki35 (talk) 09:02, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Please help

This person is vandalizing my page for money 2603:8001:9301:737:30FE:B0F7:7DAB:3587 (talk) 07:08, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Please stop vandalizing my page you’ve removed everything I actually did positive for 20 years and replaced it with paid negative content from h3 which is all false. Why would you do that? You erased 20 years of my life and instead added in one month and made it skewed highly negative please help? Knightedblog0934 (talk) 16:20, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

@Knightedblog0934: I am not vandalizing "your" page. I have also not replaced anything. I've improved the sourcing and struck unsourced or poorly sourced information, as well as information serving a promotional purpose, entirely in line with Wikipedia policy. You need to stop creating sockpuppet accounts. Your primary account User:RK777713 has been blocked for making legal threats against editors like me. Throast (talk | contribs) 16:26, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

I am not pretending to not be Ryan. I signed up for an account once and was blocked when I pointed out this is all happening as part of a legal action against h3 and Klein and knew he was paying editors and that they would be dragged into it. You have totally destroyed my page. I am not threatening not hiding anything when I say we are filing a suit against Ethan Klein and h3 next week including this.

You have litterally removed everything real and good every sourced charity award 20 years of my life and just added in skewed poorly sourced and incorrect info. I can’t even believe what you did was legal by wiki. I am pointing out anyone involved will be name as part of the third action (triller has two against him already) against him this one I am personally bringing. It is for everything he is doing Includint this. If you are so concerned with my pages accuracy why did you removed the charity awards I received sourced directly to the charities. Why didn’t you include the dozens of events sourced ad naseum between 2008 and current including I co founded triller and fight club? I implore you to look at what you have done and rever Knightedblog0934 (talk) 16:46, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Throast, just wanted to direct your attention to Ryan's comment on his own instagram post where he again claims you are working for/are H3. Addisonnotrae (talk) 04:01, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Throast: He's back at it, this time with a hashtag especially for you! How fun. Godspeed. Addisonnotrae (talk) 06:25, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

you deserve an award

thank you! for the incredible work you've done cleaning up the ryan kavanaugh wiki from the edit history its been used as a promotional piece for him for awhile now. 79.70.189.157 (talk) 00:59, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

I also want to thank you, Throast! Your attention to accuracy and veracity is evident in all your editing. You've helped me improve, and the Wikipedia community is lucky to have you. - Popoki35 (talk) 09:10, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Machine Edit Review

Hi Throast! Thanks for the message! I recently added content into the "Power Sources" section under the Machine article. This section had not contained any mention of electrochemical power sources, so I added an "Electrochemical:" type within the section. The reason there were no citations on my addition were the following:

• There were no citations in any of the rest of the section for any other type of power source (excepting one, where additional information required it)
• It is not disputed/controversial that solar cells and batteries are power sources
• It does not require additional verification or more information, as the addition linked to other Wikipedia articles where their use as power sources are stated
• Most importantly, I felt that adding references/citations would violate WP:BLUE and WP:OVERCITE

If you want to review my content manually to confirm this, that would be appreciated very much! And if you want me to re-add the content instead of yourself, just let me know. Or, if you still think my addition needs citations, I'll look for some and add them, though I'm certain the existing Wikipedia articles linked are adequate.

Thanks again! Keep in touch about what you decide!

Ezra Kirkpatrick (talk) 20:41, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ezra Kirkpatrick: Wikipedia, at its core, is a summary of information based on secondary sources. Every claim made on Wikipedia must be traced back to a reliable source, regardless of how other information in any given article is cited or if the information is controversial. If it was up to me, I would actually add {{More citations needed}} to the top of the article. The exception that you cite, WP:BLUE, clearly does not apply here in my opinion, as the concept of electrochemicals being a power source for machines can't possibly be argued to be common knowledge. I don't know how WP:OVERCITE would possibly apply, as you suggest yourself that the article contains relatively little inline citations. Throast (talk | contribs) 21:19, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@Throast: Alright, I'll add a citation that verifies that batteries and solar cells are sources of power. Thanks! Ezra Kirkpatrick (talk) 21:28, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ezra Kirkpatrick: *Sources of power for machines specifically. If you don't establish a connection between those two, that information is irrelevant to the article. Throast (talk | contribs) 21:55, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Giving thanks

Hey there. Just want to say thank you for that message you put on Usedtobecool’s talk. I do want to learn, but the person can’t expect edits to be respected without reasoning. JTW1998+ (talk) 13:47, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Hello Throast: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Justiyaya 23:32, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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Request for advice

Hi Throast, I believe you're aware of the sock puppet investigation and block on Thetruthisthere13. On his talk page, he's continued make baseless and defamatory claims. (I guess talk pages still remain open for the user even after blocking for sockpuppeting?) Do you have any advice for dealing with the defamatory claims he's making? Thanks, Popoki35 (talk) 17:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

@Popoki35: Yes, I reported him to the sockpuppet noticeboard and have seen his comments. Blocked users can still edit their talk pages so that they have the ability to appeal their block. I believe all you can do is open an inquiry at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents and request a sitewide block (see WP:OPTIONS). From personal experience, I don't think they are going to do that though but I might be proven wrong. My advice to you is just not to engage with him at all. Throast (talk | contribs) 18:44, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks for the info, and I'm going to take that advice. Popoki35 (talk) 19:10, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Threat against you by Ryan Kavanaugh

Hi Throast, just in case you weren't aware of this tweet. The saga continues! --203.18.35.200 (talk) 03:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)