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; Where do I go to learn more about using VisualEditor?
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: Please see the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:VisualEditor/User guide|VisualEditor User guide]].
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:The software has features to be added and issues to be resolved.
</div> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Ultimately, the best way to detect bugs and identify missing features is to have as many people as possible using the software and playing with it.</span> <
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; I found an issue with VisualEditor. How can I tell you to fix it?
: If you're willing and able, please [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/How to report a bug|report the issue in Phabricator]] in the [[phab:tag/visualeditor/|"VisualEditor" product]]. Most large Wikipedias also have a wiki page dedicated to feedback about VisualEditor; [[d:Q12060906|see the list on Wikidata]]. There is also a [[VisualEditor/Feedback|central feedback page]] on mediawiki.org.▼
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: If you're willing and able, please [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/How to report a bug|report the issue in Phabricator]] in the [[phab:tag/visualeditor/|"VisualEditor" product]].
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;Does VisualEditor make automatic fixes to pages?
:In most cases, VisualEditor will not make changes to formatting on lines that are not being directly edited. In cases where markup already on the page is handled incorrectly (for example, with tables that are not closed), it may attempt to correct these.
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=== Talk pages ===
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:* The visual editor is designed to edit content, plain pages of text.
</div><ref name=source><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Based on James Forrester's [[mailarchive:wikimedia-l/2016-June/084560.html|message on wikimedia-l mailing-list]], June 2016</span></ref>▼
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:** Talk pages aren't content. Many of the tools and design patterns that make VE nice to use to edit content make it poor to use for discussions.
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:** Discussions like they are on traditional talk pages are not structured discussions from a technical perspective, despite the fact there is a certain number of colons or bullet points added to each answer to provide a pseudo-structure. With the current design of classical discussions, a piece of software can't know who has replied to whom – only humans can. There is no real connection between posts (which post is the parent/child of which), which is the definition of a structured discussion.
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<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">It is the default discussion system at all Wikimedia wikis.</span>
;My question isn't here. Where do I ask?▼
<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">It is available on the desktop and mobile web site, but not in {{ll|Wikimedia Apps}}.</span>
:You can ask on the VisualEditor feedback page on your wiki ([[d:Q12060906|see the list on Wikidata]]) or on the [[VisualEditor/Feedback|central feedback page]] on mediawiki.org.▼
<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">DiscussionTools provide a set of tools to participate to discussions, with visual and wikitext editing modes.</span>
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;<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Will the visual editor be enabled on namespaces that also host discussions?</span>
:<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">This is the case of a good number of community boards, like village pumps, hosted under the Wikipedia: namespace.</span>
:<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">The visual editor [[#talk|has not been designed to edit discussions]].</span>
:<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">With the deployment of {{ll|Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools}}, it is possible to deploy the visual editor to Wikipedia namespace and to namespaces where conversations happen.</span> However, editing or participating into discussions using the "edit" button will trigger limitations, like breaking indentations or page setup.
:<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">It is possible to deploy the visual editor to these namespaces, ''only'' if communities acknowledge of these limitations, and accept that the editing team will not be prioritizing any issues that emerge as a result of people using the visual editor in namespace it hasn't been designed for.</span>
:{{ll|Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools}} will be available on any page where {{ll|Help:Signatures|signatures}} are present and either:
:* The <code><nowiki>__NEWSECTIONLINK__</nowiki></code> {{ll|Help:Magic words|magic word}} is present
:* <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">The page exists in a namespace that project has declared as a {{ll|Manual:$wgExtraSignatureNamespaces|signature namespace}}</span>
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;<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Where can I find people experienced in this kind of effort?</span>
:<span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">There is a list of names at [[Special:MyLanguage/Help:VisualEditor/Community Taskforce|Community Taskforce]].</span>
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== Miscellaneous ==
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▲;My question isn't here. Where do I ask?
▲:You can ask on the VisualEditor feedback page on your wiki ([[d:Q12060906|see the list on Wikidata]]) or on the [[VisualEditor/Feedback|central feedback page]] on mediawiki.org.
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== References ==
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▲<ref name=source><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Based on James Forrester's [[mailarchive:wikimedia-l/2016-June/084560.html|message on wikimedia-l mailing-list]], June 2016</span></ref>
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