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== [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ==
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=== Comments about [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ===
*{{k}} --'''[[user:Stïnger|<span style="text-shadow:0em 0em 1em #00FFFF;"><span style="color:#000000;">'''Stïnger'''</span></span>]]''' [[User talk:Stïnger|<span style="text-shadow:0em 0em 1em #00FFFF;"><span style="color:#000000;">'''（会話）'''</span></span>]] 14:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC).
*{{k}} --[[User:ValterVB|ValterVB]] ([[User talk:ValterVB|talk]]) 14:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{remove}} On 9 June 2023 steward Sakrestsu [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=52568370 globally locked] my account. Vituzzu justified Sakretsu's action to me by email [Ticket#2023060910010749]. I appealed to the stewards, on 19 June "The Signpost" published an [[:en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-19/In_the_media|article]] about this, which led to long talk page discussions. On 7 July the stewards accepted my appeal and the global lock [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=52876944 was lifted]. All's well that ends well - no hard feelings on my part. But there are some disturbing facts that have not been made public. On 20 June 2023 Vituzzu, who doesn't usually edit en.wiki, made four consecutive edits [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constitutional_Council_(France)&diff=prev&oldid=1161043223], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Judiciary_of_Austria&diff=prev&oldid=1161043240], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constitutional_Court_(Austria)&diff=prev&oldid=1161043252], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Judicial_review_in_Austria&diff=prev&oldid=1161043263] to correct the spelling of my name in references to a volume I edited. This was actually a threat of doxing because the next day he wrote to me that {{tq|confidentiality is in favour of all involved parties (also in favour of you)}} [Ticket#2023062110003761]. He mentioned that I had made COI edits per [[:en:Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#Citing yourself|WP:SELFCITE]] back in 2014 when I used an alternative account to restore a work of mine from the bibliography of a now-deleted it.wiki article. Back in 2014 I had made less than a couple of edits on any WMF projects and I knew nothing about COI, socks, or any other WP policies and guidelines. I never used that sock again and in June 2022 I voluntarily [[:it:Wikipedia:Richieste_di_pareri/Comportamenti_degli_utenti/Gitz6666|disclosed]] its existence to it.wiki admins, who didn't block it at the time (they blocked it one year later, after my [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Registri&logid=55300945 indefinite block] on it.wiki). On 13 July 2023 Vituzzu made good on his 21 June threat by posting [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-19/In_the_media&diff=prev&oldid=1165173609 this comment] in the Signpost discussion. The comment contains a link to the edit history of my old inactive sock, which shows only one edit, [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Richieste_di_protezione_pagina&diff=prev&oldid=63732337 this one], on which my name appears. In so doing, Vituzzu exposed my personal identity, which I had never revelead on site. Editors from it.wiki and en.wiki wrote to me asking if Vituzzu had just doxed me, which I couldn't deny. I wrote to the English Wikipedia Oversight asking for Vituzzu's edit to be suppressed; my request was denied but Vituzzu [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-19/In_the_media&diff=prev&oldid=1165484574 partially self-reverted] explaining {{tq|I took its publicity for granted, I was wrong}}. But given his edits of 20 June and the content of his 21 June email ({{tq|confidentiality is in favour of all involved parties}}) I strongly doubt that his mistake was unintentional. A few months earlier I had been [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGitz6666&diff=prev&oldid=1142605307&fbclid=IwAR3lwn14LueB7T-01pzCnz3sBjfpMa03TWnvBnHEZ5BninNPU45rInvhUhs threatened on Wiki], so revealing my identity in such a highly visible discussion at "The Signpost" was very poor behaviour on the part of a steward. --[[User:Gitz6666|Gitz6666]] ([[User talk:Gitz6666|talk]]) 15:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*:Why didn't you ask for the relevant diffs to be suppressed? And why are you giving so much visibility to them?<br />On at 12:06 CET on the 26 January 2014 you wrote, in an article talkpage, with your main account Gitz6666 [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Ripristina&target=Discussione%3ASimone+Regazzoni&timestamp=20160710222308 here] (now deleted) '''you revealed your identity on wiki'''. When I stumbled upon your abuse of multiple accounts to push your works, I looked for more and I found that some citations (added by other users than you, thus perfectly legit) were mistyped.<br />
*:According to en.wiki policy ''If individuals have identified themselves without redacting or having it oversighted, such information can be used for discussions of conflict of interest (COI) in appropriate forums.'' i.e. your allegation is, as usual, ''twice'' false: I was dealing with a COI and you self-identified. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 16:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*::# I don't think that you {{tq|stumbled upon [my] abuse}} (the 2014 COI edit with a self-citation), I think you were there to retaliate. My sock had been inactive since 2014, I had lost its password, I had publicly revealed its existence in June 2022. But it was blocked in June 2023, after the "Alessandro Orsini affair" that led to my local indef block and global lock - maybe to have a linkable connection between Gitz6666 and that old COI edit?
*::# Honestly I don't remember the deleted edit of 26 Jan 2014, it may be true that I revealed my identity then - as I said, I was not an active user at the time. But I do know that on 20-21 June 2023 you threatened to reveal my identity and that on 13 July 2023 you did so. I'm not overly concerned about my privacy, but I think others should be made aware of your behaviour. 
*::# Finally, I did ask for the relevant diff - that is, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-19/In_the_media&diff=prev&oldid=1165173609 your comment] at the Signpost - to be suppressed. Oversight didn't accept my request possibly because, as you now explained, I had already revealed my identity in that deleted diff of 2014, and so you were allowed to use such information {{tq|in appropriate forums}}, although I'm not entirely sure the Signpost discussion was an appropriate forum.
*::[[User:Gitz6666|Gitz6666]] ([[User talk:Gitz6666|talk]]) 18:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*:::So, in short, I didn't any doxx. Fine with me. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 21:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*::::{{re|Vituzzu}}, can you explain why some of the entries of that user's block log has the blocking admin's name revision-deleted? Is this normal in it.wiki? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 06:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:::::I don't want to sound rude, but how is this question related to my confirmation? [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*::::::{{u|Vituzzu}}, aren't stewards there to answer questions from the community, regardless of how related they are to your confirmation? --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]])</small> 20:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:::::::They are here to ask questions about their own actions, even about their own wiki-related views, but there are more appropriate venues for generic questions. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*::::::Hi {{re|Vituzzu}}, the reason I was asking this is that I was trying to understand what was going on with that user, and was confused to see the revision-deletion on the user name (which is very unusual from my experience). I do apologise if it sounded irrelevant, but that wasn't the intent. A single sentence or two would have been enough - I wasn't looking for depth here. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 05:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} Comment above me took my attention. But overall I don't know the whole story, Vituzzu's work has been good, they are a great steward and I've not seen anything which indicates a lack of trust. <b>[[User:EPIC|<span style="color:blue">EPIC</span>]] ([[User talk:EPIC|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]])</b> 16:09, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} [[User:JrandWP|JrandWP]] ([[User talk:JrandWP|talk]]) 16:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} --[[User:Titore|Titore]] ([[User talk:Titore|talk]]) 17:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}}--[[User:Superspritz|<span style="color:DarkGreen; font-weight: bold;">Superspritz</span>]][[User talk:Superspritz|<span style="color:red; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><sup>tell me</sup></span>]] 17:50, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}} --<font face="Trebuchet MS"><b>[[User:V0lkanic|<span style="color:#32CD32">V0lkanic</span>]] [[User_talk:V0lkanic|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</b></font> 17:53, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} - <s>I see no issues with Vituzzu's actions in the case above.</s> Good work overall as usual, and tends to be responsive. – [[User:Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]] ([[User Talk:Ajraddatz|talk]]) 18:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} A pillar against all kinds of POV-pushing.--[[User:Friniate|Friniate]] ([[User talk:Friniate|talk]]) 18:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{remove}}--[[User:Fenikals|Fenikals]] ([[User talk:Fenikals|talk]]) 18:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{Remove|Weak remove}}. The whole Gitz affair leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Stewards can do great work, but they need to be able to know when to step back on activities that involve their home wikis. I'm not quite sure why a Steward who is an administrator on ItWiki was so heavily involved in ''reinforcing'' this global lock that was later overturned, and I've been unsatisfied with all explanations I've heard since. This is ''weak'' only inasmuch as there may be some plausible explanation for why the actions were appropriate, but I haven't heard nor seen any, and it's been months. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)">[[User:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: white">Red-tailed&nbsp;hawk</span>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User talk:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: white">(nest)</span>]]</sub></span> 18:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*:I wasn't involved in any local block, I think I never interacted with Gitz6666 before endorsing his global lock for reasons which appeared pretty strong to me at that time. Actually it was me to ask for further opinions/comments by fellow stewards which lead to the unlock. What I regret was being dragged in a toxic discussion which followed the unlock. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 21:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*::I don't see where Red-tailed hawk claims that you had been {{tq|involved in any local block}}. 
*::{{tq|Actually it was me ...}} - it is good to know that you apparently had concerns about Sakretsu's highly problematic global lock and helped overturn it. However, that was certainly not the impression one got in [[:en:Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-06-19/In the media|this discussion]], where you were a [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-19/In_the_media vocal] defender of it. In particular, you {{tq|second[ed] Sakretsu's word one by one}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-19/In_the_media&diff=prev&oldid=1161040717] in reference to a statement that, as explained in detail [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-19/In_the_media&diff=prev&oldid=1161136540 here] I considered to be very weird coming from a steward in  Sakretsu's situation, also because their action raised some serious questions with regard to [[Stewards policy#Avoid conflicts of interest]], [[Stewards policy#Check local policies]] and [[:en:Wikipedia:Global_rights_policy#Stewards]]. Regards, [[User:HaeB|HaeB]] ([[User talk:HaeB|talk]]) 22:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*:::I'm pretty sure everyone here is perfectly fine with the simple fact that asking for comments by trusted volunteers is a standard practice in complex cases. Anyway can you please detail my alleged conflict of interest? I'm lost about this new allegation. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 22:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*::::Vituzzu, this obfuscatory, misleading and combative communication style is quite concerning for someone laying claim to one of the highest positions of trust in the global Wikimedia movement. To highlight in detail how it manifest just in the example of this comment:
*::::* Regarding {{tq|can you please detail my alleged conflict of interest?}}: I'm unsure what you basing this demand on or where you see such a {{tq|new allegation}} being made. The reference to that COI policy was obviously with regard to Sakretsu who had used his steward rights to take this highly problematic action that was later repealed, rather than you (again, I explained the concerns with regard to these three policies in much more detail back in June on the linked Signpost talk page, where you and Sakretsu entirely failed to address them, despite your heavy activity in other parts of that discussion). The fact that you yourself were {{tq|so heavily involved in ''reinforcing''}} that problematic action - as Red-tailed hawk summarized it - casts serious doubts on your judgment as steward, but is not necessarily covered by the letter of that particular steward policy. - In other words, you are using a strawman tactic here, and that right after I had called you out for similarly insinuating that Red-tailed hawk had said something that they did not actually say. 
*::::* {{tq|I'm pretty sure everyone here is perfectly fine with the simple fact that asking for comments by trusted volunteers is a standard practice in complex cases}} - what is the point of this remark? Again, nobody had criticized you for "asking for comments" by other stewards. Rather, what's strange is that despite having insisted incessantly in public that Sakretsu's action was not a mistake, you now appear to claim credit for its correction ({{tq|Actually it was me to ask for further opinions/comments by fellow stewards which lead to the unlock}}). And this is especially strange if, as you say, this kind of notification is just a run-of-the-mill "standard practice" - not to speak of the fact that an appeal was filed in the case, which you fail to include in your theory of what "lead to the unlock". - Rather, what sounds more plausible to me as a possible substantial segment of the causality path is that other stewards - likely including some who are less directly involved with itwiki - looked at the matter, shook their heads and made it clear to Sakretsu that his decision could not stand. (If that is what happened, credits to them for doing the right thing.)
*::::And you are playing all these rhetorical games while still avoiding to address the wider issues with regard to the three aforementioned policies.
*::::Regards, [[User:HaeB|HaeB]] ([[User talk:HaeB|talk]]) 09:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} --[[User:Actormusicus|Actormusicus]] ([[User talk:Actormusicus|talk]]) 18:53, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}}--[[User:Atlante|Atlante]] ([[User talk:Atlante|talk]]) 19:04, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{keep}} --[[User:Novak Watchmen|Novak Watchmen]] ([[User talk:Novak Watchmen|talk]]) 19:06, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} A very valuable steward. --<span style="font-family:Times; color:#219">'''[[User:Ruthven|Ruthven]]'''</span> <span style="color:#0070EE"><small>([[User talk:Ruthven|<span style="color:#101090">msg</span>]])</small></span> 19:39, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}} [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun</sub>]] 19:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}} --[[User:9Aaron3|9Aaron3]] ([[User talk:9Aaron3|talk]]) 20:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{remove|Hard remove}} – sorry, no, doxxing is a massive no as an admin for me, let alone a steward. And instead of apologising for what is rather an otherwise frightening action, they doubled down. Not the behaviour I'd expect from a steward. --<span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont">[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] <small>([[User talk:SHB2000#top|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]])</small></span> 20:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*:I strongly deny any doxxing allegation, both in the letter of the policy (user declared their identity) and in intentions. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 21:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}}--[[User:Bramfab|Bramfab]] ([[User talk:Bramfab|talk]]) 20:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}} --[[User:Civvì|Civvì]] ([[User talk:Civvì|talk]]) 21:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}}--[[User:Quinlan83|<span style="font-family:Vivaldi; font-weight: bold; color: #FF0040; font-size: 13pt; ">☠︎Quinlan83☠︎</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Quinlan83|<span style=" color: #FF6600; ">𝖄𝖔𝖚 𝖙𝖆𝖑𝖐𝖎𝖓' 𝖙𝖔 𝖒𝖊?</span>]])</sup> 21:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} [[User:Prodraxis|<b><span style="background-color:#a4c6fc;font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:black">Prodraxis</span></b>]] <sub>([[User talk:Prodraxis|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]])</sub> 22:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} A pillar of this wigwam. --[[User:Pequod76|Pequod<span style="color:#008000;">76</span>]]<sup>(''[[user talk:Pequod76|talk]]'')</sup> 22:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} --[[User:USSR-Slav|<ruby {{#if:|class="large"}} {{#if:|style=""}}><rb><sub>USSR-Slav</sub></rb><rp>&#32;(</rp><rt>СССР-Слав</rt>{{#if:|<rp>,&#32;</rp><rtc {{#if:|style=""}}></rtc>}}<rp>)</rp></ruby>]] ([[User talk:USSR-Slav|talk]]) 03:00, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}} One of the best users of the whole Wikimedia movement. --[[User:Phyrexian|Phyrexian]] [[User talk:Phyrexian|ɸ]] 07:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{keep}}--[[User:Aplasia|Aplasia]] ([[User talk:Aplasia|talk]]) 08:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}}--[[User:Torsolo|Torsolo]] ([[User talk:Torsolo|talk]]) 09:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}} --[[:it:Discussioni utente:.mau.|.mau. &#x2709;]] 10:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}} --[[User:Fcarbonara|Fcarbonara]] ([[User talk:Fcarbonara|talk]]) 10:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{k}} --[[User:cyfraw|<b style="color:#00B">cyrfaw</b>]] ([[User talk:Cyfraw|<small style="color: green;">talk</small>]]) 13:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} --[[User:Wutsje|Wutsje]] ([[User talk:Wutsje|talk]]) 14:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{Keep}} per EPIC. -- [[User:CptViraj|CptViraj]] ([[User talk:CptViraj|talk]]) 15:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{remove}}-[[User:Juandev|Juandev]] ([[User talk:Juandev|talk]]) 17:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{remove}} per [[w:Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-06-19/In the media]] [[User:Levivich|Levivich]] ([[User talk:Levivich|talk]]) 19:21, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:i.e. upholding that a certain global lock was warranted? [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{remove}} per Gitz6666 and Red-tailed hawk. --[[User:Nemoralis|Nemoralis]] ([[User talk:Nemoralis|talk]]) 19:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{remove}} Have been reviewing this for a while and I can't really comment on the Gitz6666 situation. But I'm far from impressed from the reply to Leaderboard above. {{tq|I don't want to sound rude, but how is this question related to my confirmation?}} I would expect stewards to be answering questions they receive during confirmation, regardless of how much they relate to them actually being confirmed, as stewards should be open to the community. Ok, this might not have been a necessary question to ask, but Vituzzu did respond and chose to question the question instead of just answering the question at hand to resolve the concerns raised. That isn't the attitude I expect from a steward. --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]])</small> 20:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:I think you've missed that the action in question wasn't performed by me. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*::Then why did you choose to question the question instead of just giving that answer? Or answering what you know about that situation with RevDelling admins names, as an itwiki admin? --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]])</small> 20:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:::Because the principle that anyone should be accountable for their own actions ''only'' (rather than others') is non-negotiable. BTW why did you assume that the action in question has been made by me? [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*::::Where did I assume the action in question was made by you? --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]])</small> 20:44, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:::::Fair, in this whole "case" I've been subject to a (still ongoing) severe hounding, so I'm glad I draw a wrong conclusion. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{neutral}} [[User:Queen of Hearts|Queen of Hearts]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|talk]]) 20:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{keep}} The Gitz-related accusations (to which I do not agree) are based on actions that Vittuzzu made as a normal user (he backed - not performed - the glock, which could have been done by ''any'' user) and not as a steward, hence they must be discussed in an appropriate place and are not a valid reason for his removal. [[User:valcio|''valcio'']] [[User talk:valcio|•••]] 20:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{remove}} I don't feel that we ever got to the bottom of what was going on in the Glitz6666 affair, but one thing that seems clear (per the Signpost discussion) is that Vituzzu does not respond appropriately to criticism.  Again, I have not reached a conclusion about the doxxing allegations above, but I can conclude (from the comments on this page) that Vituzzu would rather use flippant rhetorical tricks to close off discussion than actually engage with the issues raised.  I expect a steward to operate with appropriate transparency, be prepared to justify their actions, and to handle criticism with due humility.  Based on these two issues alone, I lack confidence in Vituzzu's suitability to be a steward, without having to reach a firm conclusion about their conduct in the underlying cases. [[User:Bovlb|Bovlb]] ([[User talk:Bovlb|talk]]) 21:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:It's unfair to draw similar conclusion upon a single discussion in which I've been targeted with false accusations, tho. [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 22:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{remove}} loss of trust after the whole handling of the Gitz666/Orsini affair. --[[User:Jayen466|Andreas]] <small>[[User_Talk:Jayen466|<span style="color: #FFBF00;">JN</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jayen466|466]]</small> 22:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:Orsini? [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 22:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*::Another small but telling example of the kind of misleading, combative rhetorical tactics that Vituzzu has now been called out for by several people on this discussion page alone. 
*::Anyone spending half a minute to, say, check the Signpost's [[:en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-06-19/In the media|summary]] of the affair will understand Andreas' reference; it is very hard to believe that Vituzzu has forgotten that name. Regards, [[User:HaeB|HaeB]] ([[User talk:HaeB|talk]]) 09:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
*:::I'll repeat the question in a more clear way. Which actions of mine should I justify/explain in "Orsini affair"? [[User:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[User talk:Vituzzu|talk]]) 10:45, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}} Vituzzu is an hard worker and a great user, one of those who are fully devoted to the movement. He's been a steward for over a decade and has done an immense work so far. I always appreciate his honest opinion, especially on complex matters. Definitely keep, otherwise I believe it would be a great loss for the steward team--[[User:Sakretsu|Sakretsu]] ([[User talk:Sakretsu|炸裂]]) 23:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{k}}--[[User:Mtarch11|Mtarch11]] ([[User talk:Mtarch11|talk]]) 04:49, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{remove}}. --[[User:UA0Volodymyr|UA0Volodymyr]] ([[User talk:UA0Volodymyr|talk]]) 07:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{Keep}} ----[[User:Mannivu|<span style="color:#008080; font-weight:bold; font-family:BankFuturistic;">M</span><span style="color:#008080;">annivu</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[User talk:Mannivu|<span style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Courier; color:#000;">✉</span>]] 07:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{Keep}} —[[User:Vale93b|Vale93b]] ([[User talk:Vale93b|talk]]) 07:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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*{{k}}--[[User:Equoreo|Equoreo]] ([[User talk:Equoreo|talk]]) 10:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)