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Halloween Kills/Ends
Two opinions from these movies. First, they missed a great opportunity to incorporate Dr Challis as one of the hospital doctors in Kills. Even if just a cameo, that would have been cool to see Atkins back in the role. And I realize canon wise they were not in the same universe. But hell, so many timelines with Halloween maybe Dr Strange accidentally merged two of them.
Second, with Ends, I wish they had made the Myers House part of the story. All we got was a sidebar that it had been torn down. Personally I would have enjoyed a final showdown between Laurie and Michel inside the Myers House. That’s just me, I’m sure there are other great ideas, feel free to share.
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Challis should have been sitting at the bar in Kills. What's the matter, don't you have the Halloween spirit? No!
Ends had to get rid of the house. It has been done to death.
Ends needed to keep the house subplot. They built it up so much in Kills that Micheals entire motivation was he just wanted to get back home. They had the whole "looking out the window" thing going on, with the effect being implied to be supernatural given that the sheriff ended up staring out it too in a sort of trance. What did he see? What does Micheal see?
When Ends goes and tears down the house off screen it's like a slap in the face to continuity. Micheal is at his most powerful at the end of Kills, and then Ends starts and he's just...chilling in a sewer? All weak and pathetic? Nah. Shit movie with shit writing.
Hell I would've took the tom Atkins cameo only for in the final act it to be revealed that Michaels mask is silver shamrock product. Would've been more entertaining to me than what we got. Too many plot holes and inconsistencies with the lore within the dgg trilogy while it being under same director and studio across the 3 films
How could a subplot like that even be expanded on or resolved? It’s a similar situation to trying to explain Michael, the moment you do that all intrigue or creepiness is lost. Leaving it mysterious was the best decision.
My personal head-canon is that the window isn’t actually anything special, it’s just important to Michael. I believe that as a kid, he first saw the darkness in his eyes through that reflection, making made him snap and obsessed with it. Him returning to it decades later is either him admiring it, or maybe even trying to understand it himself.
I don't know how you'd resolve that ambiguous of a plot line. On the same hand, I wasn't handed millions of dollars to write and produce it. I'm sure with that kind of motivation behind me I could have come up with something instead of dropping it entirely and never even mentioning it again. Obviously it's special to Micheal, the reason might be best to leave alone, but there is no way in hell he would simply leave it to be demolished. That is not how that would go down.
I mean, if we’re going off his physical condition in Ends then it’s unlikely he’d be able to do anything to stop the demolition of his home.
I personally wouldn’t have written the window subplot either, but I can see what they were going for with it being another mysterious, unexplainable aspect to Michael’s character. It’s even subtly acknowledged in Ends with him carving his face into the sewer wall, almost like he’s trying to replicate the reflection he saw in the window.
Totally agree about the window. In Kills it was so played up I assumed in Ends they would land that plane but, as like the rest of Ends, it failed here too.
I think it would have been a fun nod to have him back in a doctor role, but not as Challis. I agree with u/DaveW626 that he'd have been better as a bar cameo, though.
The whole motif behind Ends is that evil changes shape, so it would have been a step back to have the old Myers house be the showdown, I think. Laurie also wouldn't have had the advantages she did in an old, empty house.
I hate that the pandemic messed with the production of the movies after the 2018 one. I think both Kills and End suffer for it. I don’t like them at all.
honestly, i didn’t like End. with how Kills ended, i assumed they would pick up where they left off, but it was completely different then i expected. it didn’t fit with the rest of the franchise. it’s like they knew it had to come to an end and ran out of ideas on how to end it.