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Autodescription — Linux (Q388)
description: family of Unix-like operating systems that use the Linux kernel and are open source
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Software is a term, rather than creative work
[edit]According to Wikidata:Infoboxes task force/works - LaddΩ chat ;) 00:36, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
“Unix-like operating system family, including GNU/Linux”
[edit]“Unix-like operating system family, including GNU/Linux”. Uhh, what? This would mean that “Linux” includes both traditional GNU/Linux distributions such as Ubuntu and Linux distributions without any GNU, such as Android. This doesn't sound right. --Wiki-Wuzzy (talk) 23:57, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- On the contrary, I completely agree with your interpretation of the sentence. Android is a kind of Linux system. —DSGalaktos (talk) 01:22, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- The problem is of the intentional overloading of the name “Linux”, because it both refers to the kernel (official) and to an operating system (semi-officially). The Wikipedia clearly means GNU/Linux, Android is excluded, the Wikipedians have decided to use the lazy name “Linux”, maybe because it is more common or something. Whatever. Android is clearly not a GNU/Linux, but it uses Linux (the kernel). Long story short: I suggest to add “GNU/Linux” as an alias and to alter the description to refect that. Anyone opposing this? --Wiki-Wuzzy (talk) 15:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Linux, the Linux kernel and GNU/Linux are all different things; consequently, we have different items for them: Linux (Q388), Linux kernel (Q14579), and GNU/Linux (Q3251801). What the Wikipedias do with this isn’t our problem as long as we add the page links to the correct item. But since we have separate items, I think it would be wrong to add the alias “GNU/Linux” to this item. (In fact, I’ve just removed it from the German language.) —DSGalaktos (talk) 17:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- I propose this description, more neutral and clear: «operating systems that use the Linux kernel» (Android, you are welcome). This is in order to clear the difference between GNU/Linux (Q3251801) (Debian, Ubuntu, you are welcome). --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 22:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Linux, the Linux kernel and GNU/Linux are all different things; consequently, we have different items for them: Linux (Q388), Linux kernel (Q14579), and GNU/Linux (Q3251801). What the Wikipedias do with this isn’t our problem as long as we add the page links to the correct item. But since we have separate items, I think it would be wrong to add the alias “GNU/Linux” to this item. (In fact, I’ve just removed it from the German language.) —DSGalaktos (talk) 17:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- The problem is of the intentional overloading of the name “Linux”, because it both refers to the kernel (official) and to an operating system (semi-officially). The Wikipedia clearly means GNU/Linux, Android is excluded, the Wikipedians have decided to use the lazy name “Linux”, maybe because it is more common or something. Whatever. Android is clearly not a GNU/Linux, but it uses Linux (the kernel). Long story short: I suggest to add “GNU/Linux” as an alias and to alter the description to refect that. Anyone opposing this? --Wiki-Wuzzy (talk) 15:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Remove the software version identifier statement
[edit]Linux (Q388) violates the type constraint for software version identifier (P348). Also to me it does not make sense to assign a single version number to a whole operating system family.
Therefore I suggest to remove the software version identifier statement. Trilemma2 (talk) 19:21, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- There is some mess to undo, because some people have edited it thinking it's about the kernel and others thinking it's about GNU/Linux. --AVRS (talk) 19:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- Fixed everything I could. The interwikis are for human convenience, so I am not moving them (it has been discussed before). The pronunciation recording links need tweaking: the files include more than just the word; there are word-only files, which need to be checked for belonging to particular language sources if there is any difference. Thanks for the heads up. --AVRS (talk) 20:12, 1 August 2019 (UTC)