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--Ymblanter (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks much

Thanks very much for your help at Wikidata:Wikimedia Commons! — Cirt (talk) 13:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear meaning of sentence in Help:Statements

Hello HenkvD, if I correctly found out, you wrote the message Help:Statements/44/en (heading Language independent). There is following sentence: "If that is not the case the property type should be Item to link to an Item." This sentence I don't understand properly. What does property type should be Item to link to an item mean? Thanks, --Michawiki (talk) 14:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see it is unclear. Is this better: property type should be "Item" to link to it. The full senctence will then be:

A value should be language independent. If that is not the case the property type should be "Item" to link to it. That Item will most likely not have Sitelinks. For that reason the Wikidata:Notability is being discussed to include "(An item is Notable on Wikidata if it) can match one of the default notability criteria (..), and can be connected to at least one other Wikidata item (that is, no orphan items without an associated Wikipedia article)".

Is that better? Do you understand it now? Any suggesteions to improve it? HenkvD (talk) 15:38, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your answer. No, it is still unclear. property typ should be item to link to an item I understand as Property type can be an item, and this item can link to another item. For me property types and items are different things. Regards, --Michawiki (talk) 16:52, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An other attempt:

A value should be language independent. If that is not the case the data type should be "Multilingual texts" (future feature) or "Item". The linked Item will most likely not have Sitelinks. For that reason the Wikidata:Notability includes "(An item is Notable on Wikidata if it) can match one of the default notability criteria (..), and can be connected to at least one other Wikidata item (that is, no orphan items without an associated Wikipedia article)".

HenkvD (talk) 19:07, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's clear. An item can be a data type but not a property type. Maybe singular Multilingual text would be sufficient. I will wait to change the Sorbian versions until you modified the English original. Thanks and regards, --Michawiki (talk) 19:17, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello HenkvD. I've just seen that our changed message hasn't been taken over to the translation tool. Could you make to do that? Thanks, --Michawiki (talk) 14:29, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WD:Intro

Hi

Please tell me why you have removed the phrase

Statements in Wikidata are added by both humans and bots.

? If I'm not mistaken, it is not directly related to Phase 2, is it? --Michgrig (talk) 06:18, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was not relevant to that section. Feel free to add it somewhere else if you want to. HenkvD (talk) 07:09, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Wikidata in ru-wiki

Hi. We are having a problem with ru:Модуль:Wikidata. Now every docpage of a template has such a code (see example of an infobox usage), it appears because docpages don't have a page on wikidata. So {{wikidata|p373|}} must return nothing but it doesn't. Do you know how to fix this? Fameowner (talk) 08:56, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is very hard for me to understand a) your questions and b) how all modules and templates are linked (as all in Russian). This is what I think I understand:

ru:Шаблон:Мыс/doc (Template:Infobox cape/doc) has an example of ru:Шаблон:Мыс (Template:Infobox cape) with Property:P373 (Commons category) which is displayed as [[commons:Category:|Челюскин на Викискладе]], but as a /doc is not linked in Wikidata it should return nothing.
{{#if:{{Wikidata|p373|}}|FILLED|EMPTY}} should return EMPTY, as it does on my russian user page but not on ru:Шаблон:Мыс/doc, although in both case no entity is found. Also filled if I try on ru:Шаблон:Мыс or any other tempale page.
Seems to link to template space, but I don't have any idea why. Very strange. HenkvD (talk) 19:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think I found the cause: it lies at ru:Шаблон:Wikidata (template:Wikidata). It adds ru:Категория:Википедия:Шаблоны, использующие Викиданные (Category:Wikipedia: Templates that use Wikidata) based on {{NAMESPACE}}. So it also does of templates or templates/doc that uses ru:Шаблон:Wikidata (template:Wikidata). That should be moved to <noinclude> or so. HenkvD (talk) 19:32, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it was in module but yeah you're right - it is in template:Wikidata. So I know how to fix the problem, thanks a lot for help. Fameowner (talk) 04:12, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata datamodel

Hi! commons:File:Wikidata model 2.PNG on Help:Wikidata datamodel should be corrected. References are 0..*{hash, (snaks), snaks-order} where (snaks) are just like (qualifiers). There is a missing level, and snaks-order is missing. --JulesWinnfield-hu (talk) 00:05, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the immage and also the example on Help:Wikidata datamodel. I think it is OK now. HenkvD (talk) 16:55, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It's not very important, but there's a qualifiers-order in the claim too. --JulesWinnfield-hu (talk) 20:45, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. I added the qualifiers-order too. HenkvD (talk) 20:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. I noticed you rectified the other too. --JulesWinnfield-hu (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Verwijderen Rijksmonument ID (P359)

Hoi Henk, waarom heb je op items zoals op Q17464237 het Rijksmonument ID verwijderd? Het is wellicht niet langer een Rijksmonument of heeft een ander nummertje, maar dan zou het ID niet moeten worden verwijderd, maar worden voorzien van een einddatum. Ik ben bang dat dit in het verleden wel vaker is gebeurd. Ik probeer nog bij de RCE wat data op te halen zodat we de voormalige rijksmonumenten hier ook netjes kunnen volgen. Multichill (talk) 09:56, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Prima. Ik was indertijd alle monumenten van de Nieuwe Hollandes waterlinie aan het bijwerken, waarbij veel dubbelen, veel met nieuwe nummers en een aantal die geen rijksmonument meer zijn. Bij de laatste heb ik monumentID verwijderd. Mijn excuses daarvoor. Momenteel ben ik bezig met gemeentelijke herindelingen, maar daar laat ik oude gemeentes staan ment een einddatum en een nieuwe gemeente met een begindatum, zie bijvoorbeeld deze. PS: is het wel goed als ik MonumentID's wijzig als alleen het nummer mbij de RCE gewijzigd is, of moet daar ook een eind- cq begin-datum toegevoegd wroden? HenkvD (talk) 10:16, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Met de gemeentes ziet er mooi uit! Ik zag al de nodige wijzigingen op User:Multichill/Nederlandse gemeentes. Daar missen nog behoorlijk wat links en moeten nog wel wat dingen worden samengevoegd. Ik had Bennebroek (Q817840) als referentie item gemaakt. Voeg je ook de missende BAG residence ID (P981), CBS municipality code (P382), Amsterdam code (P6434) en gemeente geschiedenis (https://www.gemeentegeschiedenis.nl/gemeentenaam/Bennebroek) links toe? Dan kunnen we op termijn allerlei leuke data gaan importeren zoals bevolkingscijfers van het CBS (die altijd per gemeente zijn).

Het liefst houd ik alle id's in stand omdat anders de boel niet terug te vinden is en te herleiden. Je kan altijd einddatum unknown gebruiken als je geen idee hebt wanneer het monument is uitgeschreven of omgeboekt. Ik probeer deze data nog bij de RCE te achterhalen. De huidige kan je eventueel als voorkeur zetten zodat die meer zichtbaar is.

Ik heb trouwens net een wat uitgebreidere update op nl:Overleg Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Erfgoed/Nederlandse Erfgoed Inventarisatie#Linked open data, Wikidata en update 2019 gezet. Multichill (talk) 11:07, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Het is niet mijn plan om die missende gemeenteId's toe te voegen. Ik heb nog wel een andere vraag. Monumenten als Q22791932 heebben een locatie (Bleskensgraaf (Q2109338), maar ook een "Gelegen in bestuurlijke eenheid (Molenwaard (Q1943433) ) Deze laatste is een voormalige gemeente. Die zou ik kunnen wijzigen, maar eigenlijk is dit dubbele informatie, die ik zou willen verwijderen. In ieder geval voor de links naar voormalige gemeentes, maar eigenlijk voor alle monumenten. Hoe sta jij daar tegenover? Hetzelfde geldt ook voor straten. HenkvD (talk) 12:09, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]