User talk:Theklan

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fossil taxon

Hello Theklan,

We now have "instance of fossil taxon" implemented (almost thirty thousand items) for taxa described on the basis of fossil material. By combining this with IUCN's extinct, it should be possible to find out which taxa are extinct. - Brya (talk) 16:51, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Imagen del escudo

Buenas tardes Theklan, tengo una pregunta sobre QuickStatements. ¿Cómo lo has utilizado para añadir un calificativo, en este caso una imagen del escudo? Gracias, --Davidpar (talk) 17:11, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Pues es bastante sencillo, Davidpar. Tienes que hacer una tabla en la que estén los Q que quieres cambiar, a continuación la P que tenga que manipular, luego la Q a la que haces referencia, y a continuación la P que quieras poner como cualificador y, por último, lo que quieras insertar. En el ejmplo tienes uno: Q4115189 TAB P31 TAB Q1 TAB P580 TAB +1840-01-01T00:00:00Z/09. Con esto añadirías esa fecha como cualificador de inicio al calificador 1 en la propiedad 31 del item 4115189. -Theklan (talk) 19:26, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

¡Gracias! Me ha ido genial. Por cierto, ¿es posible añadir dos calificativos a la vez cuando la Q a la que se hace referencia es duplicada? Por ej, solo lo ha añadido en la primera Q. --Davidpar (talk) 22:21, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Ni idea, Davidpar! -Theklan (talk) 22:25, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Ok, en todo caso, muchas gracias! --Davidpar (talk) 22:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Some Euskera translations

Hello Theklan. According to your Babel info, you speak Euskera. Could you please verify/add the five Euskera translations available here? Thanks. Emijrp (talk) 20:28, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done @Emijrp: -Theklan (talk) 21:00, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Article Placeholder

Hey,

Here's what we were talking about earlier :) ArticlePlaceholder and an example in Welsh. If you need more information, let me know! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk) 22:24, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

sport (P641)=tennis (Q847)

Hello Theklan,

recently you added sport (P641)=tennis (Q847) to a large number of wikidata items which already possess occupation (P106)=tennis player (Q10833314). This is redundant, and therefore undesirable. A few years ago, there has been discussion about this matter, but I don't remember where or when.

Could you please program your bot to delete the property sport (P641)=tennis (Q847) on any items possessing occupation (P106)=tennis player (Q10833314)?

Thanks a lot. Kind regards, Vinkje83 (talk) 15:46, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Vinkje83. I don't think is redundant, as many automatic templates are using sport (P641) for stating which parameters to show. For us in Basque Wikipedia this information is vital to show all the templates correctly. -Theklan (talk) 15:53, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

I see. Well, that makes the redundancy unavoidable. I will stop removing this property. Vinkje83 (talk) 16:34, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Maybe it could use occupation (P106)=tennis player (Q10833314) but for this we would need a way to isolate items, and it's not so easy. -Theklan (talk) 16:37, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Description of Olympus Mons (Q520)

Hi,

Could I ask you to add a description in euskara on Olympus Mons (Q520)? (I'm trying to improve it to be a Wikidata:Showcase items)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:59, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Done @Vigneron:! -Theklan (talk) 11:01, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorrera data adierazpeneko irregulartasuna

Egun on! Zer moduz? Wikidatan sorrera data adierazpenean mendea parametroaren adierazpidea traketsa da: "Mende 13" edo horrelako zerbait agertzen da "XIII. mendea" esateko. Azkenean urtea jarri dut, eta beraz ezin dut adibidea eman..., baina beste baterako. Iñaki LL (talk) 11:09, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Bai, badakit, Iñaki LL. Baina nik ezin diot ezer egin horri, nik dakidala! -Theklan (talk) 11:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Zaila al da ba? Hori nola dagoen aurkezteko modua ez da... Bestalde, Whatsappean mezua utzi dizut. Goraintzi Iñaki LL (talk) 11:38, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Ez dakit zaila edo erraza den... ze Wikidatako kodea ez dut maila horretan kontrolatzen. Galdetu agian hemen dagoen Txokoan, eta ea norbaitek konpon dezakeen... -Theklan (talk) 11:45, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Could you check

Hi,

Could you check this claim you added :

⟨ Pont d'Ibarron, Saint-Pée-sur-Nivelle (Q12259372)    ⟩ Mérimée ID (P380) ⟨ PA00084498 ⟩

It's seems this is the wrong number (PA00084498 is about a house, this house: Q22920826).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 17:19, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Corrected the number to: PA0084516. Merci VIGNERON -Theklan (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! I've merged Pont d'Ibarron, Saint-Pée-sur-Nivelle (Q22920846) and Pont d'Ibarron, Saint-Pée-sur-Nivelle (Q12259372). Everything seems fine now. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:54, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

The Dinner Party

You seem to be adding "The Dinner Party" to hundreds of items, including plays, people, and all manner of other objects. This looks wrong. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:40, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:: It's not wrong, en:The_Dinner_Party is an artwork with a collection of 999 women and women related issues that can be compilled as a Collection. Look here. -Theklan (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

So why are you tagging plays among the list of women? You need to be sure you're tagging people/characters and not works of literature about those people. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:05, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

It also looks as though you're misusing catalog (P972), which should be listed as a qualifier, not in it's own right, on the items you've tagged. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, because some of the women that appears in the catalogue are not women, but fictional characters or even novels. -Theklan (talk) 20:22, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

No, they're characters not plays or novels. There are different data items used for characters than for books or plays. And in any cae, "The Dinner Party" is an art work, not a catalog. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:29, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

We have different approaches to this. And I think we are not going to convince each other. Is there a great disruption of functionalities if this catalogue/artwork is referenced via Wikidata? If so, you can mass revert everything, but I don't think so. -Theklan (talk) 20:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Request

Hello.

Could you create the article en:Architecture of Azerbaijan (Republic of Azerbaijan) in Basque, just like the article eu:Antzinako Greziako arkitektura which you uploaded?

Thank you.

31.200.13.92 11:11, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

items to merge?

Hi,

Aren't terminative allative (Q55862800) and allative case (Q655020) the same concept? Should these items be merge or not?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 17:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: Not really. In Basque we have three kinds of adlative and the adlative proper. Technically, they are different declensions. -Theklan (talk) 15:30, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, I imagined it could be something like that.

In this case, maybe terminative allative (Q55862800) could be a subclass of (P279) allative case (Q655020)?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 17:13, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: It could be... I have asked it! -Theklan (talk) 09:23, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Saludos, Theklan. Venia a preguntar lo mismo, pero mi duda comparando wikt:eu:urtarril con la denominación en otras lenguas es si terminative allative (Q55862800) es lo mismo que terminative case (Q747019). --Vriullop (talk) 08:31, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@Vriullop: En principio no es lo mismo. Pero vete a saber! -Theklan (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Help us improving the user experience of Lexicographical Data

Hello,

I’m Jan, doing research on user experience in the Wikidata team. I’m currently discussing with people who are editing Lexemes, in order to understand their needs better, and improve their experience with the interface.

We noticed that you have been actively editing Lexemes recently (thank you for that!) and we would love to have a discussion with you about what you’re doing, how you work, what motivates you to create Lexemes, and how you imagine reusing the data later.

This discussion would take place as an individual interview with one of our designers. Via the communication platform of your choice, you’ll be able to share your screen, show how you’re currently editing the data and chat with us. The discussion would take between 30 and 60 min, we will set up the appointment depending on when you are available. Depending on your preferred language, the discussion can happen in English, German or French.

If you’re interested, feel free to reply to this message or send me an email: jan.dittrich@wikimedia.de.

If you don’t want to be contacted by us on this topic anymore, please let me know.

Thanks a lot for your help, --Jan Dittrich (WMDE) (talk) 16:02, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

@Jan Dittrich (WMDE): Tell me more! -Theklan (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Theklan: Sure – I had some conversations with other community members already and learned about what the processes and problems for other editors are. Is there anything particular you would like to know? --Jan Dittrich (WMDE) (talk) 08:44, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Grammatical cas in Basque and translation

Ola Theklan! Could you add a translation in English (or at least in Spanish) to these items: terminative allative (Q55862800), destinative allative (Q55862897) and directive allative (Q55862884) so that labels can be translated into more languages (few people speak Basque language). Thanks in advance. Pamputt (talk) 19:08, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@Pamputt: done! -Theklan (talk) 17:21, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm confused. Shoudn't they be allative instead of ablative? --Vriullop (talk) 09:08, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

@Theklan: thank you. BTW, could you reply to Vriullop? Pamputt (talk) 20:41, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I messed it up. Actually it reads adlative, not ablative. I think adlative is a misspelling for allative provoked by Spanish/Basque adlativo/adlatibo. --Vriullop (talk) 07:50, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

I don't know the exact translation to English.-Theklan (talk) 08:14, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

I've gone ahead according with allative case (Q655020) and wikt:en:Template:eu-decl-inanim noun. --Vriullop (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Traducciones

Buenas Theklan. He visto que has cambiado varias descripciones de personas en Wikidata. Te comento que yo hacía lo mismo para varios tipos de personas y al final decidí crear un bot para no tener que estar cada poco tiempo viendo que descripciones estaban vacías y necesitaban rellenarse. El bot en cuestión lo que hace es mirar la profesión de la persona y el país, para poner como descripción "remero francés" o "político brasileño". Ahora mismo tengo varios idiomas, pero todavía no tengo el euskera, y me gustaría saber si podrías ayudarme a traducir profesiones. Gracias y un saludo. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 15:01, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Hola Vanbasten 23. Ya hablamos de sobre esto la última vez que estuvimos. Ahora no he cambiado las descripciones, ha añadido nuevas usando QuickStatements y OpenRefine, pero son para un proyecto concreto que estamos realizando sobre escritores vascos. Lo del bot... yo ando muy muy pillado de tiempo, la verdad es que no puedo ayudarte en los próximos meses. A ver si este fin de semana en el encuentro de WMES encontramos a alguien que se pueda animar. -Theklan (talk) 15:18, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Ahhhhhh que no me he dado cuenta que eras tú el que lo había cambiado (me faltaría añadir iconos de caras raras del Telegram). He visto que alguien metía descripciones en euskera en artículos que sigo en Wikidata y he escrito a toda leche... lo de pensar lo dejé para otro momento jejeje ya lo siento. ¿Te veo este finde entonces? ¡Genial! --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 15:47, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Armiarma

I saw the creation of the new property so I created an entity for Armiarma (Q57705758) to describe the virtual library. William Graham (talk) 17:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

@William Graham: thank you very much! -Theklan (talk) 17:58, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

List of bridges in Azerbaijan

Hi.

Could you upload en:List of bridges in Azerbaijan in Basque Wikipedia?

Kindest regards.

A2D2 (talk) 07:02, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi.

Can you translate and upload en:Template:World Heritage Sites in Azerbaijan and en:List of World Heritage sites in Azerbaijan in Basque Wikipedia?

Kindest regards.

A2D2 (talk) 21:40, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Mayors of France

Hi,

For every commune of France, there is an item for the mayor. Most of the time this item doesn't have a label in Basque. For the moment, only Mayor of Bayonne (Q28482399), Bayonne (Q134674), mayor of Bordeaux (Q27898073), Mayor of Le Neubourg (Q62075280), Mayor of Neuilly-sur-Seine (Q61953099), mayor of Paris (Q12371988) and mayor of Tulle (Q61952793) have a label in Basque. For other language I added automatically (with QuickStatements) the label but here I'm not sure the Basque language work: is it always "name of the commune+ko + mayor in basque" and what is the most correct name in Basque for mayor: alkate, alkatea, auzapeza?

@Iñaki LL:

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 07:46, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Mila esker/thank you VIGNERON for contacting us on this matter, hope your Wikimania was very productive! (We have just come back on Friday) The pattern you mention is good. However, there are exceptions: a "n"/"l" ending requires a "go" added. For example, Irun + ko = Irungo, Agurain + ko = Aguraingo, Idiazabal + ko = Idiazabalgo.

That is the regular pattern, but there are exceptions related to morphosyntactic considerations, as some place names take an "a" ending, considered as an article, and not part of the word's root, i.e. Iruñea (Pamplona), may inflect as "Iruñeko", for this suffix. Also Ermua > Ermuko. Not Donostia though, which is inflected as "Donostiako". There is a list of such municipalities, I would need to look up.

Another exception is the phonetic behaviour after tz/tx/ts endings, e.g. Zarautz, usually inflected as "Zarauzko" according to the namesake Basque language article. Off the top of my head, as a general rule: tz > z, ts > s, ts > s. Sometimes a liaison vowel comes into play, usually rendered in digital variables as "(e)", i.e. between brackets, but that is more of an exception, so I would not consider.

As for the the proper translation. It is generally rendered for standard Basque as "alkatea" (with article added at the ending). However, is it possible to add an exception for French Basque municipalities? ("auzapeza") This would be a good option for the Basque municipalities (speakers) who use this term in actual practice. Iñaki LL (talk) 09:47, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

@Iñaki LL: thanks for your answer. I'm also just back from Sweden (I took some days off ;) ) and yes, Wikimania was very productive.

These exceptions seems a bit complicated (what is the difference between Iruñea or Ermua and Donostia? can I find it automatically?) and I fear I would make some mistakes, so: could I let you do it? (it would be ~39000 of edits, but with QuickStatements it can be done in one click ). As a start, here is the list of all item for mayors of France: https://w.wiki/7Rm

I also ping @Xabier Cañas: who changed the label from Baionako alkatea to Baionako alkate (Special:Diff/435322347).

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 12:12, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey VIGNERON, yes we were also on holidays and Wikimania has been very good for us. I think Xabier is right about "Baionako alkate", it is treated as a common name (without article). This is the list of names that follow the pattern of Ermua (>Ermuko): Azkoitia, Hondarribia, Olaberria, Berriatua, Busturia, Ermua, Etxebarria, Forua, Mallabia, Mañaria, Bizkaia, Arratzua-Ubarrundia, Asparrena, Erriberabeitia, Erriberagoitia, Harana, Urizaharra, Abaurregaina, Abaurrepea, Ameskoabarrena, Basaburua, Elizagorria, Ergoiena, Erromantzatua, Iruñea, Itzagaondoa, Mendigorria, Olatzagutia, Otsagabia. None of them is in French territory; note for example that "Ergoiena" would be inflected as "Ergoiengo". Note that Bizkaia is not a municipality. Thanks for the link to the automatic application! (I may try it:) Iñaki LL (talk) 14:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

'feminine form' and 'masculine form' property proposals

Hi,

Would you mind if I updated your feminine form and masculine form property proposals to add more examples and explanation? I think they are great ideas, but the proposals are just lacking clarity. Liamjamesperritt (talk) 03:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

@Liamjamesperritt: Yes, please! Theklan (talk) 07:16, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Sense for L184208

Hi,

Where does the sense for ur/𒌨 (L184208) comes from? Do you have any references? (for info, I've added the ePSD which only has 3 senses: "dog", "toy" and "lion" but nothing for "carnivorous mammal, particularly a dog").

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 17:25, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: I found it here: en:wikt:𒌨#Sumerian -Theklan (talk) 17:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Parfait, merci. Je vais donc voir là-bas ;) VIGNERON (talk) 17:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Radomir Antic

It seems that some news reported in first instance its dead by coronavirus. There were some more refs yesterday. Still found some, but as you stated, it must be mistaken.

• El Mundo Deportivo, La trayectoria de Radomir Antic, fallecido por coronavirus, en imágenes
• Onda Cero, El extrenador de Atlético de Madrid y FC Barcelona, Radomir Antic, ha fallecido por coronavirus a sus 71 años
• La República Esportiva Mor Radomir Antic als 71 anys, víctima del coronavirus

--Amortres (talk) 05:31, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Amortres: Gracias por los links. Alguno han corregido el titular, así que supongo que se descarta. Lo dejamos en stand-by? -Theklan (talk) 07:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok --Amortres (talk) 08:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

3 errors

I reverted your edits in:

• Q1162365
• Q1632447
• Q571363

You've addet Spain (Basque) rivers data into Uruguay and Argentina rivers elements. I think, you schould create new elements for those Basque rivers. Malarz pl (talk) 18:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Malarz pl: Thanks for noting it. I made some mistakes with OpenRefine, because some rivers have exactly the same name. I will try to make new rivers for those. -Theklan (talk) 20:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

sibling

Hello Theklan! His sibling can only be a human Palotabarát (talk) 23:07, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Palotabarát: I have used the reverse statement: if A is B's sibling, B should be A's sibling. -Theklan (talk) 09:15, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Theklan! Yes, but both A and B must meet the following condition:

• A = instance of (P31): human (Q5) B = instance of (P31): human (Q5)

What you did:

• A = instance of (P31): human (Q5) B = instance of (P31): male given name (Q12308941) or
• A = instance of (P31): human (Q5) B = instance of (P31): female given name (Q11879590)

I undo these (cca 20-25 item). Palotabarát (talk) 09:31, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Q99658455 and Q99658483

Hello, you created Fernando José Zubiría y Urizar (Q99658455) and María de las Mercedes Zubiría y Urízar (Q99658483), which at first appeared to be about the same person ("Fernando José Zubiría y Urizar"), but have been possibly corrupted and confused by subsequent edits. They both have the same Geni.com identifier. Please correct or merge the items as appropriate. Thank you. -Animalparty (talk) 17:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

@Animalparty: Solved the geni issue. They are siblings. -Theklan (talk) 17:14, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Bad edits

In these two elements: 1, 2. I deleted the bad edit, you rewrote it. It's not good this way. Palotabarát (talk) 22:20, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

labels de municipios

tienes un vándalo obsesionado: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anastasiaa13. Amadalvarez (talk) 13:38, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@Amadalvarez: No sé si podré revertir todo eso a mano. -Theklan (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

No sé si hay alguna operación masiva. Si no, te echo una mano. Amadalvarez (talk) 14:47, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@Amaldavarez: Gracias! Ya hemos terminado. Habría otra opción que sería con quickstatements cambiarlos... pero no sería un revert. Y habría tardado lo mismo. -Theklan (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done Amadalvarez (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Joseba Egibar

Hi Theklan, it was my pleasure to attend your Wikimania session. I had a look at one of the examples you showed: Joseba Egibar Artola (Q3822687)

It seems that there are three Wikidata items for Gipuzkoa the political constituency: Gipuzkoa (constituency) (Q5564085), Gipuzkoa (Q28452114), Gipuzkoa (Q58214104).

Joseba Egibar Artola (Q3822687) currently uses Gipuzkoa (constituency) (Q5564085) but should probably be using Gipuzkoa (Q28452114)?

I can potentially run my pywikibot property migrator on something like this, and I suspect Gipuzkoa isn't the only Basque place with such electoral level crossover...

--Deryck Chan (talk) 11:15, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Deryck Chan: You are right! They should use Gipuzkoa (Q28452114). Also those using Biscay (Q4917218) should use Biscay (Q28452115), and those using Álava (Q8076636) should use Álava (Q28452113). This are the only three constituencies that should be changed! Thanks for noting it. -Theklan (talk) 11:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Let me try later today! Deryck Chan (talk) 12:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Did I get these right? Odón Elorza González Rafael Larreina Valderrama If that's right I'll set my script free to run the remaining cases. (P.S. González seems to be a really common surname across the Basque Country?) Deryck Chan (talk) 13:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

González is a commons surname in Spanish so it's really widespread (not the most common one, but very usual). Odón Elorza seems right, Rafael Larreina is partially right for Gipuzkoa (Q28452114), but not for Biscay (Q28452115). -Theklan (talk) 13:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

That would be correct for what I was testing. I only ran the script for Gipuzkoa. I shall set the script to run all the remaining Gipuzkoa items (and then Biscay, and then Alava). Deryck Chan (talk) 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Running pretty well so far. PAWS link FYI: [1] --Deryck Chan (talk) 15:55, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Wow Deryck Chan. Congratulations! -Theklan (talk) 15:57, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Gipuzkoa and Biscay done, now running Alava! Deryck Chan (talk) 15:15, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

All finished! Deryck Chan (talk) 17:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@Deryck Chan: Great! You deserve a barnstar or something that is relevant at 2020! Thanks for the noticing this issue and solving it so fast! -Theklan (talk) 19:52, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Correction request

Hello.

In the Wikidata page of "2021 Cumbre Vieja volcanic eruption" (Q108601121), can you correct the end date of the volcanic eruption to 13 December 2021, the day it actually ended. The ending was officially confirmed after a waiting period of 12 days. 25 December is not the actual end date of the eruption. The wrong date contradicts the source which was added alongside it: https://www.ccma.cat/324/el-volca-de-la-palma-ja-dorm-el-rastre-de-98-dies-derupcio-del-cumbre-vieja/noticia/3137091/

Yours sincerely, 31.200.21.49 16:16, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

object named as (P1932)

Egun on, Theklan, te quería preguntar por las ediciones de este tipo [2] [3], en las cuales añades object named as (P1932) con el mismo nombre que el de elemento. Teóricamente, la propiedad esta sirve para nombres distintos al real.
Horrenbestez, agur, --KajenCAT (talk) 08:37, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Hola. He subido todas las personas que aparecen en esa enciclopedia, y muchas no aparecen de la misma manera. Por eso no he discriminado en cuales sí aparecen y cuáles no. Por otra parte, puede que en un idioma tengan un label, y en otro idioma otro. No me ha parecido que estuviera de sobra, pero si es así, igual se pueden eliminar las que aparezcan con el mismo nombre. Theklan (talk) 10:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Fosa en la cueva de la Humarraña

En los resultados de búsqueda de fosa en la cueva de la Humarraña aparecen cinco ítems: la fosa de Merindad de Montija (Burgos) y otras cuatro con referencias de Huesca que también se sitúan administrativamente en Merindad de Montija por error. Davileci (talk) 08:38, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Yo he utilizado la base de datos del Ministerio de Justicia. ¿Qué es lo que hay que corregir? Theklan (talk) 08:39, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Los enlaces de las referencias no funcionan, las coordenadas son de Huesca y la situación territorial administrativa de Burgos: si los expedientes son de Huesca, la situación territorial administrativa también debería serlo. Davileci (talk) 13:18, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Me ha costado, pero buscando parece que están en el municipio de Lupiñén-Ortilla. Las coordenadas tampoco creo que sean correctas. Theklan (talk) 12:34, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Request

Hello.

Can you add the Emiliano–Romagnolo language article eml:Azerbaigiàn in the Wikidata page of Azerbaijan (Q227)? That page is protected and that is why I cannot add it.

Yours sincerely, 31.200.16.201 05:48, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I can! Theklan (talk) 07:36, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much. 31.200.16.201 07:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Question about the gender/sex of persons on artxiboa.mendezmende.org

Hi, I've been seeing some of the given name items you have made (in this case María Valentina (Q79607824)), and I can not figure out where the site makes it clear that the bearer is a man. Could you help me out? StarTrekker (talk) 12:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Evidently, is an error. Thanks for noticing it! Theklan (talk) 13:36, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Takes San Francisco (Biibao)

Kaixo!

He visto que has subido elementos alrededor de San Francisco. Hasta mayo estaré animando a gente del barrio de San Francisco de Bilbao y alrededores a contribuir a rellenar la "calva" de información en Wikidata mapeando lugares de interés (social, cultural, etc...). Más info: WikiTakesSanFrancisco. Si puedo, iré haciendo fotos de los elementos que has subido. O quedarán pendientes para futuros wikitakesBilbao ;-)

Ongi izan! Mentxuwiki (talk) 13:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Eskerrik asko! Tengo un curso con estudiantes en dos semanas en el que tienen que mapear algo. Les puedo mandar a SanFran sin problema. Te parece? Theklan (talk) 13:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Kaixo!

Me parece genial! He visto que has subido un montón de elementos. Mila esker!

Saludos! 46.222.112.123 13:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Descripciones

Hola, @Theklan: la convención de descripciones de la comunidad de Wikidata. Cita: «These guidelines apply to descriptions in English. Speakers of other languages may define guidelines for their language. Until that happens, the guidelines for English can be used as a starting point to the extent that they make sense and are useful for the individual language». «For a person: [country] [career the person is known for]». Un saludo. Madamebiblio (talk) 15:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Hola @Madamebiblio. Vamos por partes:

• Esa convención mismo dice que no es una política, sino una recomendación, y que puede haber excepciones. También dice free of controversy and bias, lo cual es evidente que está pasando aquí, al forzar una visión que es controvertida.
• En Wikidata:Living_people#Labels,_aliases_and_descriptions también pone que no se pueden usar derogatory names, lo cual está también ligado a la identidad de las personas.
• En el ejemplo que me pones dice [country] [career the person is known for]. Country no es citizenship, que está definido en country of citizenship (P27). Ya se discutió en la Wikipedia en inglés sobre qué significa country, nationality y citizenship en el caso de súbditos del Reino de España. Tienes el resumen en en:MOS:NATIONALITY. Tienes el debate íntegro en en:Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2018_archive#RfC_on_use_of_Spanish_regional_identity_in_biography_leads. En este caso aplica "Basque".
• Por otra parte, puedo entender que en el label en español se intenté ocultar que alguien es vasco, es algo que se ve bastante. Es discutible que también pase en inglés, por lo mencionado arriba. Pero no se puede aplicar lo mismo al label en euskara, teniendo a personas que son vascas. No es solo una cuestión de representación e identidad, es también una cuestión de respeto. Si quieres te paso a todas las personas que se quejan de que en la búsqueda de Google aparezca "X espainiarra" o "X frantsesa" y ponga que viene de Wikipedia/Wikidata, para que les expliques que no podemos poner que un vasco es vasco cuando hablamos en vasco.
• Para terminar, si todas las personas que tenemos en Wikidata siguieran la regla PASAPORTE + OFICIO, te lo compraría. Sin embargo, no es así. Unos ejemplos:
  • Abdullah Öcalan (Q191530) - Kurdish politician, ideologist, writer and founder of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), en lugar de turco
  • Martín Miguel de Güemes (Q1394085) - militar y político argentino, a pesar de haber muerto antes de que Argentina existiera (no pone español)
  • Sean Connery (Q4573) - Scottish actor (1930–2020), y no british.
  • Kris Peeters (Q12869) - Flemish minister president, y no belgian.
  • Carles Puigdemont (Q4740163) - Catalan politician (en lo que además, hay un RfC)
  • Rex Lee Jim (Q3428834) - Navajo politican and writer, y no American.
  • Gerry Adams (Q76139) - Irish politician, y no British.
  • ... podría seguir dando ejemplos, pero es bastante evidente que las excepciones abundan.

Creo que con esto queda claro por qué Iñaki Lopez de Luzuriaga (Q107855946) tiene que aparecer como vasco. -Theklan (talk) 16:29, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

 Comment: las discusiones o convenciones de las diferentes Wikipedias se quedan allí, aquí se establecen las propias políticas y convenciones de este proyecto.
Si sienten que generalizar con el gentilicio "español" para todos los ciudadanos que han nacido en territorio español u obtenido la nacionalidad española (sean de la comunidad que sean), vulnera su identidad, ya conocen los mecanismos comunitarios para realizar las requerimientos necesarios en cualquier proyecto Wikimedia y en Wikidata.

Y en realidad no sé si don López de Luzuriaga es vasco, español o marciano: su elemento no posee una sola referencia. Madamebiblio (talk) 02:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Esa es la cuestión, que no sabes si Iñaki Lopez de Luzuriaga (Q107855946) es vasco o español, pero has marcado que es español, a pesar de que te han dicho que mejor si ponemos vasco. Por otra parte, las descripciones nunca tienen referencias. Jamás.

Y te lo vuelvo a decir, si consideras que dónde ha nacido alguien determina su identidad, te animo a poner que Martín Miguel de Güemes (Q1394085) no era argentino, sino español; que Felipe Huaman Puma de Ayala (Q473217) no era Inca sino español; que Túpac Amaru II (Q315937) era español, y no "líder mestizo"; que Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla (Q55636), Padre de la Patria mexicana jamás fue mexicano, ya que nació y murió siendo español... y un largo etcétera. Theklan (talk) 09:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

¿En dónde he mencionado que las descripciones llevan referencias? Te estoy informando que el elemento Q107855946 no posee ninguna referencia de fuentes fiables para la verificabilidad de la información de cada una de las instancias que contiene.

En relación a la cantidad de ejemplos que encuentras con información que consideras supuestamente errónea, te invito a corregirlos y mejorarlos. ¡Sé valiente!

PD: he comenzado con Güemes (rioplatense al momento de su fallecimiento). Madamebiblio (talk) 22:02, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

He visto por la historia que estaba teniendo lugar esta discusión, y no puedo sino intervenir, ya que mi imagen pública está en juego. No hay un estándar categórico que establezca cómo se debe describir, y lo sabes. El criterio seguido generalmente, en inglés, es la notabilidad y es falso que se deba aplicar en la descripción lo que pone en el carnet o el estado de pertenencia, un acto de carácter administrativo que no me representa ni a mí ni a muchas personas del mundo. Vaya por descontado, que esa información se encuentra ya presente en P27, ciudadanía (''herritartasuna'', según lo tengo en euskera).

Por esa parte, tu acción, @Madamebiblio, es un acto controvertido que considero un acto de parte, que no contribuye nada, más que desafección y hartazgo. Esto es así en cualquier lugar que haya tenido disputas o conflictos territoriales o nacionales, y éso es puro conocimiento del que deberías estar al tanto. No es un acto objetivo, es un acto polémico. Ni los nacidos en el territorio presente de Israel son "israelís" automáticamente, ni los kurdos son turcos o irakíes autómaticamente, aunque su P27 sí lo sea, ni Mahatma Gandhi era un ciudadano británico, ni los habitantes de América eran "españoles" a principios del siglo XIX, aunque así se estableciese en la Constitución de Cádiz de 1812.

Hay problemas mucho mayores en Wikidata, bias sistémicos evidentes, como el de editores o robots que se dedican a poner P27 para todo aquel que haya nacido en el territorio presente del estado español en el siglo XVIII y anteriormente, o poner "español" en la descripción allá donde antes ponía vasco o navarro, claramente un anacronismo, como ya ha pasado en Bernart Etxepare, y no es el único. Es bien sabido para alguién que sepa algo de historia, que a veces ni siquiera eran habitantes de la Península Ibérica (¿eso los convierte en franceses?), pero para éso hay que tener conocimiento y aportar precisión De hecho, en aquella época prácticamente nadie sabía francés o castellano/español. Creo que hay decenas o quizá cientos de personas en WD a las que se asigna automáticamente lenguas oficiales de hoy en día durante otros períodos de la historia, forzando a otros editores a corregir afirmaciones que a veces se hacen de manera masiva (P1412).

En referencia al idioma, quien conozca lo que hago sabe bien que prácticamente no he escrito trabajos en castellano/español, y que no es precisamente eso por lo que se me conoce. En relación a este hecho, mi lengua de uso y vida habitual, que es la lengua propia de los vascos, ni siquiera está reconocido en España en algunos lugares de Navarra, y tampoco en el estado francés. El Congreso de España ni siquiera la aceptaba como lengua de uso hasta hace bien poco [https://www.newtral.es/uso-lenguas-cooficiales-congreso-diputados/20230919/ 1].

Tu tarea, por lo que he visto, como librera es de especialista, una gran aportación a wikidata y loable. Sin embargo, tu edición en la descripción de mi ficha no representa mi imagen, ni los detalles de lo que deber ser la descripción están escritos en piedra más alla del enlace que aporta Theklan arriba, ni tu criterio representa a un gran número de personas de este planeta. Puedes seguir intentando cambiar todos los ejemplos ya citados por mí o Theklan, pero siguen siendo actos controvertidos. Te pido, pues, por favor que ceses en esa cruzada, que no va a aportar nada positivo. Hay mucho trabajo que hacer en los casos que he citado, y ésos sí son objetivos. Cuestión de respeto y derecho a la propia imagen. Saludos Iñaki LL (talk) 09:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

autoritateak.eus

Me parece muy bien la propuesta de una P para autoritateak.eus.

De momento hay 161 registros. Para un catálogo Mix-n-Match quizá haga falta esperar que sean más, si están añadiendo otros. ¿Qué te parece? Muchas gracias.  Bargioni 🗣 07:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

De momento, creo que se puede hacer a mano fácilmente. Theklan (talk) 08:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)