Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography: Revision history

25 October 2024

• curprev 14:2714:27, 25 October 2024 Joe Roe talk contribs 83,301 bytes +33 →Opening paragraph: see also WP:POLYMATH
• curprev 10:1810:18, 25 October 2024 DrKay talk contribs 83,268 bytes −114 →Formatting post-nominals: easiest solution to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography&curid=173833&diff=1253199773&oldid=1252731902
• curprev 09:3909:39, 25 October 2024 Ravenpuff talk contribs 83,382 bytes +96 →Formatting post-nominals: clarify use of commas with lead brackets

24 October 2024

• curprev 19:5419:54, 24 October 2024 Ravenpuff talk contribs m 83,286 bytes +24 →Formatting post-nominals: make output properly match given code
• curprev 08:1108:11, 24 October 2024 Cinemaandpolitics talk contribs 83,262 bytes +44 updated lead for Mary Fualaau/Letourneau

19 October 2024

• curprev 01:5801:58, 19 October 2024 Tamzin talk contribs 83,218 bytes −24 →Criminal acts: okay, found a good example of a felon whose conviction is undue to mention in lede: Tim Allen

18 October 2024

• curprev 17:2817:28, 18 October 2024 Tamzin talk contribs 83,242 bytes +76 →Criminal acts: turns out that's not a good example. better to just go with something generic, since no one's notable for not being notable for a crime
• curprev 17:0417:04, 18 October 2024 Tamzin talk contribs 83,166 bytes −53 →Criminal acts: @User:Bdushaw I agree with most of that. Since you invite reverting/refining, I'll offer two counter-tweaks: 1) Warning people that something is contentious goes beyond what MoS usually does, even for more contentious topics like MOS:GENDERID. The existence of the section should speak for itself (and Crime labels is already linked in see also). 2) The no-mention scenario does happen, mostly with pre-notability convictions. I've added the example of Mark Wahlberg.
• curprev 11:5011:50, 18 October 2024 Bdushaw talk contribs 83,219 bytes +6 →Criminal acts: ce
• curprev 11:4311:43, 18 October 2024 Bdushaw talk contribs 83,213 bytes +187 →Criminal acts: Again - unsure; some suggested edits; revert or refine as desired (per Talk)
• curprev 11:3911:39, 18 October 2024 Bdushaw talk contribs 83,026 bytes −65 →Criminal acts: Unsure; some suggested edits; revert or refine as desired (per Talk)
• curprev 08:0608:06, 18 October 2024 Tamzin talk contribs 83,091 bytes −79 →Criminal acts: refactor in response to Bdushaw's change. the aspect of where to mention the crime relative to centrality was a big part of the RfC, and something I tried to reflect in my close, but I see I could have been clearer about. I've rephrased this to more clearly walk through the considerations involved in where to place a mention of a criminal act, in keeping with what was discussed in the RfC.

17 October 2024

• curprev 21:4521:45, 17 October 2024 Cinemaandpolitics talk contribs 83,170 bytes +31 added a possible consequence of using general labels for criminal acts

16 October 2024

• curprev 19:4719:47, 16 October 2024 Trappist the monk talk contribs m 83,139 bytes +4 Task 20 (dev test): replace {lang-??} templates with {langx|??} ‹See Tfd› (Replaced 4; ignored 1: Lang-grc-gre); Tag: AWB

15 October 2024

• curprev 10:4110:41, 15 October 2024 Bdushaw talk contribs 83,135 bytes −3 →Criminal acts: refine
• curprev 10:3910:39, 15 October 2024 Bdushaw talk contribs 83,138 bytes +245 →Criminal acts: clarify intent of paragraph, replace (now) inaccurate Sarkozy example; the Polanski article has been a veritable war zone on this point

14 October 2024

• curprev 09:3009:30, 14 October 2024 JohnFromPinckney talk contribs m 82,893 bytes −7 Tweaks per WP:LISTGAP
• curprev 08:3408:34, 14 October 2024 Wire723 talk contribs 82,900 bytes +120 →Nationality examples: Add explanation for the recent addition

13 October 2024

• curprev 17:0417:04, 13 October 2024 Sekundenlang talk contribs 82,780 bytes +210 →Subsequent use
• curprev 16:5916:59, 13 October 2024 Sekundenlang talk contribs 82,570 bytes +93 →Nationality examples: adding another example

11 October 2024

• curprev 05:3605:36, 11 October 2024 Bagumba talk contribs 82,477 bytes −109 →Unusual exceptions: Rock: it's neither the page title nor format in its lead sentence (and conflicts with MOS:THENICKNAME) Tag: Manual revert
• curprev 04:1004:10, 11 October 2024 Mathglot talk contribs 82,586 bytes 0 →Unusual exceptions: Double quotes, not single, for nicknames like ⟶ Dwayne "The Rock"... Tag: Reverted

9 October 2024

• curprev 23:5823:58, 9 October 2024 Anastrophe talk contribs 82,586 bytes −4 →Unusual exceptions: Introducing errors into the MOS twice. Again, MOS:CURLY Tag: Reverted
• curprev 23:4723:47, 9 October 2024 WorldClassChampion talk contribs 82,590 bytes 0 →Unusual exceptions: Fixed typo of Dwayne Johnson Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• curprev 23:4623:46, 9 October 2024 WorldClassChampion talk contribs 82,590 bytes +12 Undid revision 1250321685 by Anastrophe (talk) . Tags: Undo Reverted Mobile edit Mobile app edit iOS app edit App undo
• curprev 18:4518:45, 9 October 2024 Anastrophe talk contribs m 82,578 bytes −12 Rollback edit(s) by WorldClassChampion (talk): Reverting good faith edits: Misspelled, mos:curly. Please try again. (UV 0.1.5) Tags: Ultraviolet Rollback Reverted
• curprev 18:4018:40, 9 October 2024 WorldClassChampion talk contribs 82,590 bytes +113 →Unusual exceptions: The Rock meets MOS:BIOEXCEPT criteria Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• curprev 18:3518:35, 9 October 2024 WorldClassChampion talk contribs 82,477 bytes −101 →Text formatting Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

6 October 2024

• curprev 16:0816:08, 6 October 2024 Mathglot talk contribs 82,578 bytes +48 →Gender identity: Boldly setting off the good and bad examples on their own indented line under the bullet description of what the example is illustrating. All of these examples lacked double quotes and it wasn't entirely clear where the example description ended, and the example text began. Another way to do this would be to revert this, and then add the double quotes (or other highlighting of some sort) so it is clear what is description, and what is example text.

29 September 2024

• curprev 09:0509:05, 29 September 2024 Bdushaw talk contribs 82,530 bytes +29 →Criminal acts: add see also to WP Essay "Crime labels"
• curprev 09:0109:01, 29 September 2024 Bdushaw talk contribs 82,501 bytes +19 Undid revision 1247954838 by Bdushaw (talk) Self revert; my mistake; keeping "Labels"

26 September 2024

• curprev 22:1522:15, 26 September 2024 Bdushaw talk contribs 82,482 bytes −18 →Criminal acts: remove self-reference link; "Terms" -> "Labels"

25 September 2024

• curprev 20:4620:46, 25 September 2024 Bkell talk contribs m 82,500 bytes +1 →Initials: fix misspelling

21 September 2024

• curprev 16:4516:45, 21 September 2024 Danbloch talk contribs 82,499 bytes +8 →Context: change Spanish regions paragraph to an efn. The Spanish and British passages are parallel and should either both be paragraphs or neither.

14 September 2024

• curprev 07:5007:50, 14 September 2024 Yeeno talk contribs 82,491 bytes −7 →Context: Fix link Tag: 2017 wikitext editor

3 September 2024

• curprev 22:2222:22, 3 September 2024 David Eppstein talk contribs 82,498 bytes −391 →Post-nominal letters: remove superseded material about which postnominals to exclude from the lead; the answer now is all of them

28 August 2024

• curprev 10:5310:53, 28 August 2024 Asilvering talk contribs 82,889 bytes +170 →Post-nominal letters: clarifying, with link to rfc

23 August 2024

• curprev 20:5420:54, 23 August 2024 David Eppstein talk contribs 82,719 bytes +13 →Gender identity: another example
• curprev 20:5220:52, 23 August 2024 David Eppstein talk contribs 82,706 bytes +106 Would it work better if we explained what not to use (inappropriate gendered noun forms)? That way we are not requiring the use of gendered forms even in situations where gender-free language is possible.
• curprev 19:5519:55, 23 August 2024 David Eppstein talk contribs 82,600 bytes −36 Undid revision 1241897956 by RoxySaunders (talk) we should not be requiring the use of gendered occupation words when genderless alternatives are available Tag: Undo
• curprev 19:2819:28, 23 August 2024 RoxySaunders talk contribs 82,636 bytes +36 Reverted good faith edits by GnocchiFan (talk): Restore "''waiter''/''waitress''/''server''". WP:GNL applies in general cases; when writing about specific individuals (particularly those whose gender might be questioned) we are free to use gendered terms for them, and should when such terms are the norm. Tags: Twinkle Undo Reverted
• curprev 16:3116:31, 23 August 2024 GnocchiFan talk contribs 82,600 bytes −36 →Gender identity: Removing this - MOS:GNL suggests to use gender-neutral language when possible; saying we cannot refer to a women waitress as a server seems to contradict this policy. Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

21 August 2024

• curprev 08:4408:44, 21 August 2024 Necrothesp talk contribs m 82,636 bytes −1 →Criminal acts: unnecessary comma
• curprev 08:1308:13, 21 August 2024 Tamzin talk contribs m 82,637 bytes −6 →Criminal acts: fix
• curprev 08:0008:00, 21 August 2024 Tamzin talk contribs 82,643 bytes +19 →Criminal acts: MOS:CONVICTEDFELON
• curprev 07:3307:33, 21 August 2024 HTGS talk contribs 82,624 bytes −97 →Criminal acts: Remove Trump as example: Very recent, *very* contentious case, and not one with a nice, clear decision via RfC. Replaced with Sarkozy, as an example brought up many times at the Trump RfC which did not appear too contentious (and is far less likely to be controversial—at least on En-wiki) Tag: 2017 wikitext editor

20 August 2024

• curprev 08:5708:57, 20 August 2024 Khiikiat talk contribs 82,721 bytes +26 added shortcut
• curprev 06:4806:48, 20 August 2024 Tamzin talk contribs 82,695 bytes +8 →Criminal acts: Trump RfC link
• curprev 05:4305:43, 20 August 2024 Tamzin talk contribs 82,687 bytes +1,847 →Opening paragraph: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2024_archive#RfC:_"convicted_felon"_/_"convicted_sex_offender"_in_the_lead_sentence was archived without a formal close, but was basically unanimous that "X is a convicted felon" should generally be avoided. I think this is a good summary of that consensus.

16 August 2024

• curprev 04:5804:58, 16 August 2024 RodRabelo7 talk contribs 80,840 bytes 0 replacing {{IPA-it| → {{IPA|it| (deprecated template)