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Eleventh generation: no non-Amazon books?
[edit]"lack of support for e-books found outside of the Kindle Store" while the linked article says "Poor support for non-Amazon books". That's a huge difference! --0xF (talk) 12:13, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Goodereader.com is a potentially unreliable source
[edit]1.It appears that their editorial team(if they have one) is inept at fact checking. While looking at the sources it appears this blog site has been wrong on numerous occasions. An example is found in this this Kindle wiki page which has them cited for an article they prematurely published regarding native epub support(it is not native as their headline suggests, primary source mentions it is only through the send-to-kindle service). As of writing this is currently Cit. 122
2. Self-published source. It appears they often do not cite sources, and repeatedly publish incorrect assumptions. Here is just one example of them publishing multiple articles on a model of Kindle that never was materialized.[1][2] [3][4][5] Though this isn't unique to a single device/brand. [6][7]
3.They have plagiarized in the recent past, and have used unattributed images without consent on multiple occasions. [8][9][10][11]
In addition to the above there are some concerning aspects that may affect it's credibility. There is a conflict of interest with them maintaining an e-commerce store, which as a sidenote also has poor user feedback online [12][13]. There is no transparency to this, I could not find any disclosure after a quick glance at devices they both sell and review. Their headlines are typically sensationalized [14][15]. And a majority of the content is seems to be based on speculation, rumors, and opinion. They should not be viewed as reliable source, and I believe it is probably in best interest to take caution when citing them in the future. Tinycrab33 (talk) 20:36, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Input, USB data transfer
[edit]https://goodereader.com/blog/kindle/new-kindle-e-readers-no-longer-appear-on-computers
This article claims the 11th and 12th gen Kindles don't expose a USB storage interface, while 9th and earlier models do. It doesn't say anything about the 10th gen devices. It is not clear to me if it's referring to Kindles specifically, or other models as well, such as the Paperwhite.
Should the presence of this capability be researched and noted in the table in the input column? The first device notes that the USB input is "data transfer only". In my opinion noting if the USB port on the device is charging only is relevant. KGello (talk) 11:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Good Ereader are not a reliable source. They often write posts based on speculation, partially or not investigated claims, outright plagarism, promoting things they put on their store to sell despite not being official resellers, etc. This particular one has many misrepresentations and misunderstandings. MTP is a common protocol to share storage over USB. Windows and many Linux distros have native support for it. macOS does not and requires 3rd party tools. This is nothing new, as Android has standardized on MTP since the days of Andoid 4, over a decade ago, after Microsoft built the protocol to use on Zunes. MTP has been used on the Scribe since firmware 5.16.3 that was released more than a year ago: https://www.amazonforum.com/s/question/0D56Q0000CLh5csSQB/why-do-we-need-android-file-transfer-to-connect-to-kindle-now
- There are a lot of people conflating this issue with the change to Download and transfer via USB, where 2024 released models do not appear as download targets. While they both related to USB, they are entirely separate issues. Contents6762 (talk) 15:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Also, Amazon Fire tablets have used MTP for nearly the entire time the product line has existed. Contents6762 (talk) 15:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your informed reply. I saw this article (https://www.androidauthority.com/2024-kindle-sideloading-3494778/) today, and came here to resolve my issue. I only saw your comment now. The article says pretty much the same thing you did.
- I also got recommended another "review" from good ereader that was so poorly written that I just banned it from my feed. Good to know that I won't be missing anything. KGello (talk) 11:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Split proposal
[edit]The Readable prose size of this article is 9,646 words. This puts it in the Probably should be divided or trimmed
category per WP:SIZESPLIT. Additional issue to consider is the amount of scrolling one may have to do to reach relevant info, since there are quite a few pictures (relevant albeit) too. Instead of being bold and proceeding with the split, I need some input on which sections to split. Imo, the § Devices and § Official accessories sections could be split to a new page. Info on this page could be replaced with a summary. — hako9 (talk) 22:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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