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Hello! Location maps never show text because they are used in almost all projects and some of them don't even use Latin letters. That's why I will revert to the last version of this file. Of course you can upload your version as a new file. NNW 12:29, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, OK. So I will do. Thanks, --Julieta39 (talk) 15:41, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Use of photo
editHello, I would like to contact you about permission to use one of your photographs: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rep.Moldova-Codru.jpg in a publication (non-commercial) I am working on. The work would be credited as follows: “Rep-Moldova-Codru” by Julieta39, CC BY-SA 4.0. Please contact me at fuenvan@yahoo.com at your earliest convenience. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 158.232.3.98 (talk) 15:08, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
Presumption of guilt on Commons
editI understand that e-mail agreements are not enough for a picture. But I deplore that my maps, which are unpublished, are deleted without consultation as "violating the copyright" of the sources that I quote, whereas these sources do not present maps, but only data, or have maps different from mine (it is easy to verify this difference). --Julieta39 (talk) 14:23, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
Derivative maps & scheme
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Sealle (talk) 17:45, 8 November 2016 (UTC) -- Permission of Peter Langyel by e-mail.
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Sealle (talk) 17:47, 8 November 2016 (UTC) -- Unpublished map, permission of Peter Lengyel & Constantin Chera for the places of the archaeological sites & protected areas (as list in their works).
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Sealle (talk) 17:50, 8 November 2016 (UTC) -- Derivated drawing according with the pictures of the time (PD-old)
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Sealle (talk) 17:51, 8 November 2016 (UTC) -- Permission of Michel Vainguer by e-mail.
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Sealle (talk) 17:54, 8 November 2016 (UTC) -- Permission of INED (public french institution, public domain) by e-mail.
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Sealle (talk) 18:02, 8 November 2016 (UTC) -- Derivated map, permission of Laszlo Sebök by e-mail
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Sealle (talk) 18:10, 8 November 2016 (UTC) -- Unpublished map, permission of the sources cited for the data (not maps) of their works.
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Sealle (talk) 18:15, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
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Sealle (talk) 18:20, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
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Sealle (talk) 18:26, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
- Que Sealle efface directement, sans discussion, les photos d'autres personnes que j'ai téléchargées sans avoir mentionné leur accord, ça me paraît normal vu que c'est moi qui suis en faute. En revanche, il y en a pour lesquelles j'ai un accord (voir en-dessous l'autorisation pour 10 photos à partir de [1]), mais je ne sais pas comment l'envoyer à OTRS : est-ce moi qui dois le faire, ou lui ? Et puis il y a mes schémas et cartes utilitaires (et non artistiques) qui sont des travaux dérivés, à la fois en partie semblables aux modèles, mais en même temps bien différentes d'eux d'autant que je synthétise plusieurs sources (que je mentionne dans le cadre de l'image). Il n'y a pas de "preuve de permission" ? mais ce serait quoi exactement une telle preuve ? et qui doit la mentionner : les différents auteurs dont je me suis inspirée, ou moi ? Je vois pourtant dans Commons un grand nombre de schémas et de cartes qui, comme les miennes, mentionnent leurs sources, sans pour autant demander aux auteurs (parfois décédés) leur accord. Dans le chapitre Œuvre dérivée [2] ils ne disent rien des schémas et cartes dérivés... Ci-dessous la permission de Péter Lengyel extraite de ma messagerie... comment le faire savoir à l'OTRS ? Et lorsque je dessine une assiette (introuvable ailleurs sur le web) représentant une Chorea antique en m'inspirant vaguement des fresques minoennes et mycéniennes (cas de [3] également effacé par Sealle sans m'en parler), comment puis-je demander aux auteurs de ces fresques, morts depuis plus de 3000 ans, leur accord ? Merci ! --Julieta39 (discuter) 8 novembre 2016 à 19:57 (CET)
Se pot lua in total 10 poze, cu link catre blog. Cu prietenie, Peter
From: Julieta39 To: Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:51 PM Subject: Jo napot
Szervus,
Kérdés: îmi dati voie sä preiau câteva fotografii cu peisaje din Dobrogea (br. Sf-Gheorghe, faleza de la Dolojman si ale câteva) pentru ca sä le introduc în Commons (Wikipedia) în scopul de a ilistra articole relative la deltä si Dobrogea ? Desigur veti fi mentionat ca autor. Köszönöm de räspuns oricare ar fi. Búcsú, Julieta
- @Julieta39: - Bonjour, ce sont les propriétaires des droits qui doivent suivre la procédure d'autorisation de republication, c'est à dire dans la majorité des cas les photographes - Cette autorisation doit être envoyée à OTRS fr:Aide:Demande d'image libre - L'autorisation que vous avez reçu n'est pas suffisante et ne pourra pas être retenue - Bonne continuation -- Lomita (discuter) 8 novembre 2016 à 20:14 (CET)
- Salut, c'est clair que pour des photos comme File:Edy-Saiovici.jpg, File:Pr. Ion Borcea.jpg, il faut que le photographe place son travail sous une licence libre, en l'indiquant sur le site où il l'a publiée ou bien en écrivant au système confidentiel de volontaires OTRS indiqué ci-dessus. Et à ce qu'il me semble, pour un graphique comme File:Demografie R-1985-decretei.jpg ou des cartes comme File:CSE-Europe-Ethnic-Map.gif, File:Grece ottomane-fr.png, File:Dobrudja_protected_areas_map-fr.svg, sauf si on a le même genre d'autorisation de l'auteur il ne faut rien recopier de ce qui a une certaine originalité artistique ou de présentation comme les cases et les chiffres de légende du graphique, ou l'image de fond ou le choix des couleurs de la carte. En gros il faut tout refaire avec des logiciels (carto)graphiques, ce qui demande pas mal d'expérience, mais il y a des spécialistes sur les sous-pages de demandes de travaux de fr:WP:Atelier graphique. Oliv0 (talk) 12:28, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- Je comprends que les accords par courriel ne suffisent pas mais je déplore que mes cartes, qui sont inédites, soient effacées sans concertation comme "violant le copyright" des sources que je cite, alors que ces sources ne présentent pas des cartes, mais seulement des données, ou ont des cartes différentes des miennes. Too bad, comme disent les anglophones... Il paraît qu'en français ça s'appelle "suppressionnite aigüe"... --Julieta39 (talk) 14:44, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
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- Yes. I did forgotten sometimes --Julieta39 (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Rivages de la Mer du Nord
editBonjour Bourrichon, pourriez-vous je vous prie, modifier la carte [4] en dessinant le rivage tel qu'il était à l'époque, avant les grandes inondations qui ont séparé les îles frisonnes du rivage ? Voici une source : [5]. Merci à vous, --Julieta39 (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
- Bonjour, j'ai corrigé sommairement la carte (rivages du Danemark, des PB, de la Belgique), à partir de la source que tu m'as donnée, mais il me faudrait une source éventuellement plus précise et surtout incluant les rivages de la Pologne car je suppose qu'ils ont changé. À bientôt, Bourrichon (talk) 13:13, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
- A ma connaissance, d'après les cartes paléogéographiques, pas en Pologne. Les cordons littoraux de Hel et du Friesches Haff étaient déjà en place. Merci, --Julieta39 (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
I would suggest that when you radically retouch someone else's photo, as you did at File:Bucureşti - Biserica Sfântul Elefterie.jpg, you should upload under a different name and indicate it as a derivative work, rather than overwrite the original. There are several reasons for this: one is that retouching to this extent certainly creates separate rights for your derivative work (which should be indicated as yours). Another is that the original uploader may not be happy with such a major change to what is credited as that person's work.
This is not a judgement on whether the new version is good or bad, just that it is a distinct, derived work. - Jmabel ! talk 07:04, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- OK I will did it with the pictures also. With the maps I must already do it, except if, as Bourrichon, the first uploader accept the improving of his document, --Julieta39 (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, sure, if you know that the original author welcomes the improvement, that is fine. - Jmabel ! talk 17:25, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
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This isn't your own work, Did you check into he death years for the listed authors? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:26, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Resolved. Thanks for updating. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:34, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
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- This map is not a copy of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kelly_Miller%27s_history_of_the_world_war_for_human_right;_being_an_intensely_human_and_brilliant_account_of_the_world_war_and_why_and_for_what_purpose_America_and_the_allies_are_fighting_and_the_(14595424610).jpg showing exclusively the 1914 lands of Austro-Hungary, but a derivative work, showing more other details according with several historic maps from Hans-Erich Stier's (dir.) Grosser Atlas zur Weltgeschichte, Westermann 1985, (ISBN 3-14-100919-8), Putzger's Historischer Weltatlas, Cornelsen 1990, (ISBN 3-464-00176-8), Georges Duby's Atlas historique Larousse 1987, (ISBN 2-03-503009-9), the « Atlas des Peuples » of André & Jean Sellier, La Découverte publ., : Europe centrale, 1992, (ISBN 2-7071-2032-4) the Történelmi atlasz, Hungarian academy publ. 1991, (ISBN 963-351-422-3) CM and the Atlas istorico-geografic, Romanian academy publ. 1995, (ISBN 973-27-0500-0).--Julieta39 (talk) 17:16, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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- This map is not a copy of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kelly_Miller%27s_history_of_the_world_war_for_human_right;_being_an_intensely_human_and_brilliant_account_of_the_world_war_and_why_and_for_what_purpose_America_and_the_allies_are_fighting_and_the_(14595424610).jpg showing exclusively the 1914 lands of Austro-Hungary, but a derivative work, showing more other details according with several historic maps from Hans-Erich Stier's (dir.) Grosser Atlas zur Weltgeschichte, Westermann 1985, (ISBN 3-14-100919-8), Putzger's Historischer Weltatlas, Cornelsen 1990, (ISBN 3-464-00176-8), Georges Duby's Atlas historique Larousse 1987, (ISBN 2-03-503009-9), the « Atlas des Peuples » of André & Jean Sellier, La Découverte publ., : Europe centrale, 1992, (ISBN 2-7071-2032-4) the Történelmi atlasz, Hungarian academy publ. 1991, (ISBN 963-351-422-3) CM and the Atlas istorico-geografic, Romanian academy publ. 1995, (ISBN 973-27-0500-0).--Julieta39 (talk) 17:16, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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Original research. Wikimedia Commons is abused to add this garbage into other Wikipedias. Anybody is free to color black and white images or create imaginary coat of arms, but adding them into dozens of articles as if they are historically accurate is the worst form of original research. A thorough review of all this user's uploads is warranted. I also suspect him of being just one avatar of a wider sockpuppet farm. Mihai (talk) 20:02, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- We must be coherent: if this version with azure stain is a "garbage" (what friendly opinion!), then the color versions appearing on all Romanian coats of arms (here [6], here [7], here [8], here [9] or here [10]) are also "garbage". On a hand, this means that all the heraldists who since the 19th century have chosen versions with azure stain, were incompetent and did "worst forms of original research". On the other hand, all these color versions may be erased and replaced with argent stain versions, according with the black-and-white books from which the black & white versions are uploaded (as D. Gusti, Constantin Orghidan, Mircea Vulcanescu & Virgiliu Leonte, Enciclopedia României, Imprimeria Naţională. Bucureşti 1938-1943). --Julieta39 (talk) 16:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
DE: Hallo, ich habe einige Anmerkungen zu deiner neu hochgeladenen Datei. Und zwar passen einige Abkürzung nicht. Montenegro (MN) hat ISO-Code ME, Nordmazedonien hat noch MK (das Kfz-Kennzeichen bereits NMK), und der Kosovo hat noch keins zugeteilt, aber niemand verwendet KV. Du hast die Auswahl. Es gibt RKS (Kfz-Kennzeichen) oder ganz einfach KS. Manchmal taucht aber auch XK bzw. XKX auf. Aber ich denke mit KS ist es auch gemacht. Außerdem hat Slowenien SI und Bosnien BA. Viele Grüße, --ElmedinRKS (talk) 19:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
EN: Hello, I have some annotations to your new uploaded file. Your abbreviations do not fit. Montenegro (MN) has the ISO-code ME, North Macedonia still has MK (the Car plates have NMK) and Kosovo still does not have an ISO-code but nobody use KV. You have the choice. There are RKS (car plate) or quite simply KS. Usually there is XK or XKX too. But I think KS would be fine. Moreover Slovenia has SI and Bosnia and Hercegovina BA. Kind regards, --ElmedinRKS (talk) 19:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Ich werde diese Karte korrigieren!, --Julieta39 (talk) 16:03, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Julieta39, I beg to differ: the Dobruja was ceded by Romania according to the Treaty of Bucharest, not "leased" to the Central Powers, as you suggested. Please see the Article X, paragraph b of the treaty: "b. Roumania cedes to the Allied Powers the part of the Dobrudja situated to the north of the new frontier line described in paragraph a, down to the Danube and exactly between the forking of the river and the Black Sea even to St. George's Arm. The Danube frontier between the territories ceded to the Allied Powers and Roumania will follow the thalweg of the stream. The details regarding the determination of the thalweg must be agreed upon between the interested Powers immediately after the signing of the peace treaty; the delimitation will take place in the autumn of 1918 at low-water mark. The Allied Powers will see to it that Roumania obtains a guaranteed commercial road to the Black Sea by way of Cernavoda and Constanza." See also the German translation: "Rumänien tritt an die verbündeten Mächte den nördlich unter der a beschriebenen neuen Grenzlinie liegenden teil der Dobrudscha bis zur Donau ab, und zwar zwischen der Gabelung des Stromes und dem Schwaren Meere bis zum St. Georgsarm." That should be made clear in the map. Please also see that according to the 1st article of the preliminary peace Treaty of Buftea, Romania had already agreed to cede Dobruja, and according to the Protocol of transfer of Northern Dobruja to Bulgaria and the correction of the Bulgarian-Turkish border on the Maritsa river, the Central Powers agreed to transfer the rest of Northern Dobruja to Bulgaria. That wouldn't have been possible if the territory had belonged to Romania. Cheers, Mentatus (talk) 08:25, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
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editI want to make a Russian version of the map of the Khazar Khaganate. Can you send me this map in swg format? --Максим Кузахметов (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Maksim Kuzahmetov! Sorry but I can work only with Photoshop (producing .png, .jpg, .pdf, etc bitmap images, but not .svg). About the east-roman languages and the area of the "vlachs" we have only three certainties: 1- all the contradictory nationalist theories are probably wrong because present Romania, Thessaly & Pindus are out onf the main romanisation-area of the Dacian-Thracian peoples (the both banks of the Low-Danube in the northern slopes of the Stara-Planina Balkans - see Konstantin Jirecek's line); 2- the main activity of the romance-speaking people between 270 and 1270 was pastoral transhumance as shepherds, and sheep, wool and cheese trade, so their nomadic life does not allow us to assign them a closed and precise place to live; 3- the byzantine sources cite them where they met them: to the south (present Greece) and the russian sources (Повѣсть времяньныхъ лѣтъ) cite them where the Rus' people met them: on the north (present Romania). But about the "vlachs" (word meaning again today "romance-speaking person" and "shepherd" in many modern languages: olàh, vlahos, vlas, vlas...), the nationalist history and modern sources wants to assign them and their origins in a little area exclusively in present Greece and Macedonia (austrian and mainly hungarian historians) or, on the contrary, exclusively in Romania (romanian, south-slavic and greek historians). That's why, on the Khazars map, as a middle solution, I placed them near the Iron Gates of the Danube. --Julieta39 (talk) 10:01, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- I guess this is the map that Maksim is talking about: File:Chasaren.jpg, uploaded here again: File: Khazar Empire.jpg. The only solution to get the vectorial version is to ask the original author, Frode Inge Helland. Or, maybe, to remake the map with the SRTM base and rewrite in Russian.--Kunok Kipcsak (talk) 12:26, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Russian Empire in 1918?
editJulieta39, where did you get that Russian Empire existed in 1918? Maybe you would change that inscription to something like German Empire occupation zone? How about? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 05:18, 16 September 2020 (UTC) /You're right. Done! --Julieta39 (talk) 15:48, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Julieta39, I like do not want to bug you, but may be I was not specific. I was talking about that label "Russian Empire" in place when in 1918 there actually were forming Polish territories under Regency Council. It is not a big of a deal. Whatever is clever. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:12, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- ooh, I just noticed changes, looks good, moving on. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:13, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Je n'ai pas téléchargé mais seulement amélioré cette version française de [11] faite par "Felix Vainguer" avec S.I. Cepleanu (F.V. a vérifié les données, S.I.C. a dessiné la carte). I did not download but only improved this french version from [12] by "Felix Vainguer" (data collector) and S.I. Cepleanu (cartographer). --Julieta39 (talk) 19:25, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Hi Sealle. Normally in a court the defendants have the right to explain themselves. On Commons no. If they do, we delete their addition and accuse them of being rude and agitated. While prosecutors rig them with contemptuous qualifiers. No comment ! --Julieta39 (talk) 11:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Да, видел, и спасибо. Я пытался исправить наши ошибки регистрации и знаю, что вы убираете только то, что не в порядке. Но я честно говорю вам, что если вы заблокируете меня, а также другие аккаунты, подозреваемые в том, что они марионетки Чепляну, я бы не рассердился, наоборот. Лучше. Yes, I saw, and thank you. I tried to correct our mistakes and I know you are only cleaning up what is wrong. But I tell you frankly that if you block me, as well as the other accounts suspected of being puppets of Cepleanu, I would not be angry, on the contrary, it's better. До свидания ! Good bye. --Julieta39 (talk) 11:56, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
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