Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/06/Category:16th April 2012 in Switzerland
I created this category yesterday and put dozens of pictures in it; shortly afterward it was, along with several similar categories, re-emptyed and speedily deleted, referring to this discussion. I still think my categorization was perfectly in line with Commons:Categories#Over-categorization, casually stating that categories with hundreds or even thousands of pictures in it are not convenient, which is the case with Category:April 2012 in Switzerland and many others of that kind, so I should like to continue splitting them up into categories by day unhindered. --Abderitestatos (talk) 16:39, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Delete Hi, and @User:Abderitestatos: as 'usual' you do not 'come to the point of confusion', as all the category tree Category:Switzerland by day is imho disputed by User:Docu, me and partially by User:Morio — she/he created the template and Category:Switzerland by day — i contacted before directly, as you remarked.
- As personal remark, that's not the first time such 'confusions' did occure involving User:Abderitestatos and me since ~2008.
- Back to the fact: As remarked by User:Abderitestatos, please refer to the whole 'discussion' starting in February 2013 and ended on June 6, 2013, by User:Abderitestatos.
- User:Abderitestatos contacted thereafter, on June 6, two Admins, please refer to User talk:INeverCry as of June 6 and User talk:KTo288 as of June 6.
- Thank you and best regards, Roland 18:39, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Considering the absence of further statements, these categories do not seem to bother anybody but you and Docu. --Abderitestatos (talk) 12:55, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Given that there are still no further replies, I deem this category and all of its kind as uncontoversial, and therefore intend to establish more of them, expecting henceforth everybody to refrain from deleting or emptying them. --Abderitestatos (talk) 14:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- Abderitestatos, you cannot declare the issue resolved, when it does not appear to be. I myself wonder as to the value of categories like "16th April 2012 in Switzerland". --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Then do you see the value of categories like Category:April 2012 in Switzerland or not? --Abderitestatos (talk) 23:43, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Not particularly. However, I have no desire to revisit the month category tree. I do, however, wonder as to the need for categories for each day. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- It would be inconsistent to prohibit categories by day and yet keep the categories by month, when many of them already contain a number of files that is „making it necessary to go through hundreds, or in this case more likely thousands of images to find the one you want. You probably won't find what you're looking for ...“, as is stated here in a slightly different context. --Abderitestatos (talk) 16:07, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- No, it's not inconsistent at all not to want to expand a less-than-useful month category tree into an even-less-useful day category tree. I find it hard to believe arbitrarily dividing images by day will help people find what they are looking for.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- If you deem the categories by month useless, please request their deletion, but do not covertly fight an accepted category tree by obstructing its consequent development; otherwise I shall not take further account of your opinion. --Abderitestatos (talk) 01:03, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not "covertly fighting" anything. You do not appear to understand the purpose of a CFD, which is for people to express their respective opinions and to consider whether or not to keep this category or not. It's up to the community to make a decision on it, not for you to decide whether or not you want to take opinions into account or not. You are not helping your cause. Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:12, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
- The community so far has not seemed to be inclined to make such a decision; how long is one supposed to wait before closing a discussion due to lack of interest? --Abderitestatos (talk) 13:25, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough. It can be frustrating watching CFD discussions linger. Another editor recently raised the exact same issue with me, in the context of a separate discussion, and it's a problem I am giving some thought to. I plan on raising the issue in a larger context soon, and I will let you know. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:43, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Closing, since the discussion has been inactive for over 3 years, there's no consensus, and there's no action to be taken since the category doesn't exist. There's now a discussion for the whole category tree at Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/12/Category:Switzerland by day. I don't think there's anything to stop somebody recreating this category if they wanted. --ghouston (talk) 05:36, 24 January 2017 (UTC)