Commons:Categories for discussion/2017/12/Category:Child sexual abuse offenders
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this category, Category:Child sexual abuse offenders, should not be in the category, Pedophiles, as they are all convicts, not necessarily diagnosed wit this. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:58, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Same as Category:Pedophiles. Per description of pedophile they are the same shit. --E4024 (talk) 13:29, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- As long as I've been researching this topic, which is now many years, there's alway been popular confusion about what "pedophile" means. Pedophilia is technically a paraphilia, a psychiatric condition driven by a sexual attraction to children (which latter term is rarely defined with any precision). It may or may not involve committing criminal offences against childrem which is predicated by use of the word "offender"- and the application of that term, by analogy with en:WP:BLP requires a conviction or a confession. We cannot say "He must have been", see, e.g. en:Lewis Carroll. I note we have almost no entries in Pedophiles beyond Child sexual abuse offenders, and that tells me this category is being applied correctly. There is a distinction, which we should maintain, and I support keeping the separation. Immoderate, non-neutral language as opposed to an academic approach, is not going to help the situation. Accordingly, I'm going to close this as "Remove" since it's now a stale debate with few contributions, and anyh continued debate may occur elsewhere. Rodhullandemu (talk) 14:24, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Done: Stale; no consensus in six months. --Rodhullandemu (talk) 14:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)