Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/03/Category:1953 in Tanzania
Tanzania was created through the merger of Tanganyika and Zanzibar in 1964. Category:1953 in Tanzania, Category:1959 in Tanzania, Category:1960 in Tanzania, Category:1961 in Tanzania, Category:1963 in Tanzania are therefore invalid category names. Themightyquill (talk) 08:39, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- So they should be split into Tanganyika and Zanzibar categories if possible and years in Africa otherwise? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:04, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- I agree they could be split into these former countries, but I would keep the Tanzania categories prior of 1964 as history of the present-day Tanzania. --Estormiz (talk) 17:20, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe Category:1963 in Tanzania could be a disambiguation category pointing to 1963 in Tanganyika and 1963 in Zanzibar, and similarly with the other categories. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:47, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- I did not find any images in these categories of Zanzibar, so it seems a moot point at this time to worry about disambiguation. That can be created when sufficient images exist to make it worth doing. Josh (talk) 20:25, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Personally, I think the existing Category:Tanganyika in the 1950s + Category:1953 in Africa / Category:1959 in Africa was sufficient for the limited content we had, but Category:Tanganyika by year if necessary. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Rename all nominated "Year in Tanzania" categories to "Year in Tanganyika" and categorize under Category:Tanganyika by year. Josh (talk) 20:25, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- More precisely:
- up to 1884: "Year in Africa" and "Year in Zanzibar"
- 1885-1919: "Year in German East Africa" and "Year in Zanzibar"
- 1920-1963: "Year in Tanganyika" and "Year in Zanzibar"
- 1964-present: "Year in Tanzania"
@Themightyquill, Ricky81682, Estormiz, and Auntof6: Any objections to a rename in accordance with the above list? Josh (talk) 21:07, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- No objections from me. I always wonder if we'd be better off just using the current locations but if we're going to use the ones at the time, let's be complete about it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:36, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
- No objection from me. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:34, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
- Most of the "year by country" -categories have been named after the current borders, which I think is the easiest way. I would keep Tanzania the same way. It would be good though to add a notification in the Tanzaniayear template that there was no such country prior 1964. Estormiz (talk) 12:28, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
- But most current country borders weren't made up of two previously existing countries. If we had Category:1960 in Tanzania, it should surely be sub-categorized into Category:1960 in Tanganyika and Category:1960 in Zanzibar anyway, so we'd just be adding another layer. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:26, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- It is true that countries tend to break up rather than merge like in this case. I do not object the change. Estormiz (talk) 16:36, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- But most current country borders weren't made up of two previously existing countries. If we had Category:1960 in Tanzania, it should surely be sub-categorized into Category:1960 in Tanganyika and Category:1960 in Zanzibar anyway, so we'd just be adding another layer. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:26, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Moved to Category:1953 in Tanganyika and so forth Themightyquill (talk) 16:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)