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Request by own creator, files are categorized by decade Ecummenic (talk) 22:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


You can just use {{Badname}} for cases like this. Marked it. – BMacZero (🗩) 04:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Grammatical Mistake in the title, created the category again here باسم (talk) 11:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


per nomination. -- Túrelio (talk) 15:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting move to Category:Singar Mosque per en:WP:COMMONNAME and merge of Category:Singair Mosque to the new category. Transliterations vary. Sources that use "Singar" include [1][2][3][4][5] and [6]. One encyclopedia uses "Singra".[7] One scholar uses "Shingra". Physical signage at the mosque uses "Singair". No reliable source uses "Singara". Worldbruce (talk) 02:02, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • You are right. I must have made the spelling mistake when I created the category. Department of Archaeology also uses Singar. I'm performing the move soon as it is rather uncontroversial. Thanks. ~ Nahid Talk 07:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done per above. ~ Nahid Talk 08:15, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplicate 517design (talk) 14:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


deleted cat, as it's empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 15:27, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Prosím o laskavé sdělení, zda bude pokračovat další díly Temný kraj. zofre.57@seznam.cz 89.102.164.31 20:20, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


 Not done: Nothing to discuss. --Achim (talk) 20:40, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I need like the best sex ever 41.114.168.53 00:54, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


spam by anonym Estopedist1 (talk) 05:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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empty category. created by globally blocked SPV Quakewoody (talk) 11:10, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 18:54, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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There are two James Hamptons, one an actor and one an artist. This category has merged both. I don’t work on Commons much, so please ping me when you reply. Gorthian (talk) 03:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


The result was disambiguate, moved to Category:James Hampton (actor) and base name now a DAB @Gorthian: . Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:06, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The surname is "Smits" not "Smits Pieterszoon" Gouwenaar (talk) 14:51, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: deleted. --JuTa 15:57, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Self nomination ❙❚❚❙❙ JinOy ❚❙❚❙❙ 20:21, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 21:29, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Yotham Delless Yohani (Ydizo) ADAM MEI AMOS (talk) 12:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


 Not done: Nothing to do. --Achim (talk) 20:13, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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from Category talk:Interiors of Titanic (ship, 1912)

@Javier0203 and Stunteltje: enwiki uses the name en:RMS Titanic. Our name (Titanic (ship, 1912) or Titanic (ship, 1911)) is logical mistake, because there is no other ship called Titanic? We should use the name category:Titanic or category:Titanic (ship)? Enwiki en:Titanic is redirected to this ship Estopedist1 (talk) 06:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at Category:Ships by name (flat list). The categories for ships are made up in Commons with the name of the ship (as painted on the hull, so without prefix when not painted) and the year of completion. It was done for years, because Commons was intended to make it possible to find images as easy as possible. Ships have to paint their names on the ships according their certificates. If she gets a new name, the IMO number does not change, the name on the ships has to. If someone want to use an image, this way of naming ship categories makes that possible. The year of completion was used, as this year is used in most site with data for ships. See: http://www.shipspotting.com/, https://www.vesselfinder.com/, https://www.veristar.com Formerly Equasis, site of Govenments, and so on and so on. Please realise that Commons is not intended for only the English Wikipedia. The system of Commons for naming ships by year of completion is used in at least the Frech, German, Polish and Dutch Wikipedias. So the name of the category in this case, following these line, is Category:Titanic (ship, 1912). Besides: Redirecting this category without any discussion bij a new user is not the right way of working, in my opinion. The Titanic is the best known ship, I presume. --Stunteltje (talk) 07:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, saw this discussion too late. Moved 1912 into 1911 which is a common pattern for ships. Am willing to change it according to the outcome of this discussion later. Rudolphous (talk) 20:49, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Subsumed into Commons:Deletion requests/Category:RMS Titanic (ship, 1911). No need for two same discussions.--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:14, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidentally created this category by using 'in' instead of 'of'. Sorry!! NeoMeesje (talk) 09:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Next time please do not open a discussion but ask someone (an admin for example) to delete the wrong cat. What are you expecting us to discuss here? --E4024 (talk) 06:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@E4024 and NeoMeesje: "Category:Beaches in Uruguay" is a redirect now. I personally prefer the name "Beaches in Uruguay", but this is other topic. This discussion can be closed--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:46, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirected Themightyquill (talk) 07:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Redundant to Category:Mukhalinga Redtigerxyz (talk) 07:29, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Michael D. Gunther (talk) 22:53, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Closing - cat was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Invented. Category:Sultans is enough. E4024 (talk) 23:12, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@E4024 and Ashashyou: I agree. Upmerging and deleting--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK--Ashashyou (talk) 10:30, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 09:31, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Die Kategorie sollte zur besseren Unterscheidung wie die Wikipedia-Kat. den Namen Waldstetten (Günz) haben. Sie enthielt bereits drei falsch zugeordnete Kat. von Waldstetten (Ostalbkrreis) und immer noch das falsche Bild im Flussar (talk) 19:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done This was an obvious issue, Category:Waldstetten is a disambiguation category now, I have moved the category being discussed to Category:Waldstetten (Günz). --Kleeblatt187 (talk) 21:23, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Crouch, Swale: In my opinion: yes. As I never before closed a Cfd, would you please do it? Thanks, --Kleeblatt187 (talk) 20:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The result was disambiguate. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please correct the name of this category to "Kim Il-sung in 1971" to correct its grammar. Thanks in advance. 109.78.50.54 14:01, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


done. Uncontroversial moving Estopedist1 (talk) 06:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please correct the name of this category to "Kim Il-sung in 1984" to correct its grammar. Thanks in advance. 109.78.50.54 14:02, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


done. Uncontroversial moving Estopedist1 (talk) 06:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This category is redundant, and should be merged with Category:Globes in heraldry. PointyOintment (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Support Seems like a no-brainer to me. – BMacZero (🗩) 23:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Support as author. Insider (talk) 09:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I redirected to Category:Globes in heraldry. – BMacZero (🗩) 17:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC) – BMacZero (🗩) 17:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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seems to be a duplicate to Category:Birds nesting Reseletti (talk) 14:10, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all!
Category:Birds nesting are for example breeding birds, birds feeding young etc. Everything where a bird has a nest and lives in or with it.
Category:Birds building nests are birds, which carry sticks, grass, feathers and add them to the nest, as it is not yet ready or they want to repair or change it.
Category:Birds building nests may be a subcategory of Category:Birds nesting, depending if you think nesting begins with nest construcion, but it is not the same, as a nest with a breeding bird or chicks is usually ready and no nestbuilding activity occurs then.
--Kersti (talk) 19:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think of "nesting" as a synonym for building a nest. Perhaps Category:Birds nesting could be moved to Category:Birds in nests? - Themightyquill (talk) 11:32, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merged discusion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/06/Category:Birds nesting. @Kersti Nebelsiek: : Please note the move - I have copied your comments there. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:51, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Vinylstarz and Hwem: en:Nadia Gold is deleted from enwiki. Wikidata has two entries: wikidata:Q55223191 (Nadia Gold) and wikidata:Q94846942 (Goldie Bird) Estopedist1 (talk) 07:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I merged wikidata:Q55223191 and wikidata:Q94846942. I hope that {{Category redirect}} prevents bots from creating a new entry. --Hwem (talk) 07:38, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Hwen: Category:Nadia Gold is redirected to "Goldie Bird"--Estopedist1 (talk) 04:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Problems solved. Entry exists in Wikidata Estopedist1 (talk) 06:19, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Scree is uncountable, no plural 's': rename to Category:Scree, and ditto to all subcategories. MPF (talk) 21:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I checked several online dictionaries and it seems that scree can be either uncountable, referring to the mass of stones, or countable, referring to the overall feature or slope they create. I'm thinking the current form is probably slightly better; on a quick scroll, the category seems to be dominated by wider shots of "screes" as in slopes rather than close-ups of the scree that makes them up. It also has inertia - there are a LOT of categories in that tree, and they use "screes" quite consistently. – BMacZero (🗩) 05:03, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kept @MPF and BMacZero: . No further objections presented. No consensus --Estopedist1 (talk) 06:38, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplicate 517design (talk) 22:12, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This category is a duplicate of Category:Blue_Mosque,_Yerevan 517design (talk) 22:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • If it is the original/authentic name of the mosque the actual cat may be renamed/moved to this title. If everybody is happy with Blue Mosque (to me it is a temple in Istanbul) this (above) title can be made an RD (redirect) to that newer name. --E4024 (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

։ I'm ok with any option, both names are correct, though Blue Mosque is commonly used and few people actually know the Hussein Ali Khan's name 517design (talk) 07:31, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]


@517design and E4024: redirected to Category:Blue Mosque, Yerevan. Solution per enwiki--Estopedist1 (talk) 07:16, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Aktuell kein Gerät drin, wäre es nicht sinnvoll diese Kat. zu löschen, da sie nur für ein Gerät angedacht war. Wikisympathisant (talk) 17:24, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 13:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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redundant metacat; there was only one category (Category:Former train stations in Leipzig) in here, more are not to be expected. Therefore this one is redundant. The one one category mentioned has been moved upward. Kleeblatt187 (talk) 20:10, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 13:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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proprietairesde la grande maison MARLANGE avant lui a CHAMBON 2A01:CB18:82E0:F800:203C:907D:8CA3:5627 17:33, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


seems to be infopollution by anonymous non-contributor. Estopedist1 (talk) 08:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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self nomination ❙❚❚❙❙ JinOy ❚❙❚❙❙ 20:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gnoeee: what do you exactly nominate? Do you want to delete this category (curently a redirect)?--Estopedist1 (talk) 08:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Estopedist1: I have changed my username couple of months before. So I created a new Category and thought deleting the old one.-❙❚❚❙❙ JinOy ❚❙❚❙❙ 11:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 13:50, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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from the talk page:

There seems to be a confusion if this category is about the painter Axel Sjöberg (1866—1950) or the photographer Axel Sjöberg (1865—1936). Thuresson (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

category:Axel Sjöberg to DAB? Same solution in svwiki sv:Axel Sjöberg Estopedist1 (talk) 05:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Thuresson: DAB created Estopedist1 (talk) 06:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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nominated across all projects. Quakewoody (talk) 14:16, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete cross-wiki spam. --Esteban16 (talk) 14:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Esteban16 and Quakewoody: categories deletion in Commons is different than in Wikipedias. All related files are nominated to be deleted (see Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Koetailaki). Once the files will be deleted, we can delete the category in question as well--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:51, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
We'd like to think that categories automatically get deleted, and I am sure that most do. But since we know it doesn't always happen, especially (from what I see) when they have a Wikidata Infobox attached... I cover all my bases by nominating categories as well. Quakewoody (talk) 13:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And on a side note, your ping didn't ping me. Quakewoody (talk) 13:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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duplicate of Category:Surya Redtigerxyz (talk) 13:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


@Redtigerxyz: a redirect to cat:Surya is done Estopedist1 (talk) 07:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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These photograps NOT taken about flags! Globetrotter19 (talk) 08:06, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment I want to create this category because I don't want the Category:Photographs of flags of Hungary to be overcategorized. If you are not happy with the categories, either I can crop the picture (if a flag if not extremely small and visible for the eye) nor remove the category from a picture where the flag is really small. Otherwise, you can remove them or make a cropped version. SpinnerLaserz (talk) 13:57, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively, I can see that I can do with these categories because half of the pictures from Hungary may include the national flag (but they are mostly incidental but some don't) but you can remove the catories from the pictures if you want to. It's just that I tagged these pictures including yours with extremely poor judgement. SpinnerLaserz (talk) 20:58, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean by "overcategorized." Do you mean overly full? Because even deleting all the subcategories by city, there seem to be only about 200 images, which will all fit on one page. That's hardly overly full. - Themightyquill (talk) 18:20, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have merged this CFD into Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/06/Category:Photographs of flags of Hungary by city. SpinnerLaserz (talk) 18:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done: deleted as now ampty. --JuTa 18:28, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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As a follow-up to the Category:Photographs of flags of Hungary in Pécs as the CFD focuses only one city, these categories either needs possible clean up or recategorization with incidental ones being removed (while cropped ones are categorized. Cropping is actually allowed but only if they had the same license as the original and give credit to the original artist). The categories that filled with pictures that are not intended to be flag pictures are to be purged. Same with Category:Photographs of flags of Hungary by town and Category:Photographs of flags of Hungary by village. SpinnerLaserz (talk) 17:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: deleted. --JuTa 14:06, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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originally deletion request (Commons:Deletion requests/Category talk:Funkturm im Schönbuch) by user:H. Sellmoene

Die Bezeichnung "Funkturm im Schönbuch" ist sinnlos. Es gibt mehrere Funktürme im Schönbuch, nicht nur einen. Die beiden Bilder dieser Kategorie sollten zur bereits bestehenden Kategorie (Sie trägt den offiziellen Namen dieses Turms, ist also sachlich richtig!) "Fernmeldeturm Waldenbuch" verschoben werden und diese Kategorie hier gelöscht werden. H. Sellmoene (talk) 07:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC) Estopedist1 (talk) 13:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: Moved to Category:Fernmeldeturm Waldenbuch, as per nom. --rimshottalk 21:55, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Tautomer was created as a subcat of the pre-existing Category:Tautomerism, with a manual interwiki link to en:Tautomer. That's the same enwiki page where that parent points via wikidata, which doesn't seem to indicate any *wiki have separate pages for these two terms. I don't see a conceptual/definitional difference, just a linguistic one (even the cat header desc seems the same). I propose upmerging Tautomer into Tautomerism. DMacks (talk) 04:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do as you say. I support DMacks. Some people like to make overcategorization, not surprised. --E4024 (talk) 04:18, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Support. With subcat like Tautomers, the current Tautomerism category would probably end with no or a few files in it. I don't see any reason for the new cat. Wostr (talk) 12:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted per discussion. --Leyo 22:21, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I think this page can be deleted because the two categories in it are easy to find without this category NeoMeesje (talk) 14:37, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Support @NeoMeesje: we are using category:Fires in Ukraine--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your support, that's what I thought and why I nominated the page for deletion
 Oppose @NeoMeesje: The category of "Fire" refers to a form of energy, while the category of "Fires" refers to instances of fire emergencies. Same as in the parent categories, as well as in Fire in Austria. I have added additional categories that fit under the definition.--Sanya3 (talk) 01:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@NeoMeesje and Sanya3: now seems to be rational category. Analogue group is Category:Water by country--Estopedist1 (talk) 04:59, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your support.--Sanya3 (talk) 03:08, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 06:15, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A globally locked ex-user left us this peculiar category. Firstly, there were different dishes in the category. Some of them were not even "soups" but "stews". Then connected them to a Chinese "mutton soup" item in Wikidata. I do not know the reason why they were banned but certainly this case is disruptive editing. I opened this discussion to inform people that for the above reasons I took out the Turkish, Greek, Azeri etc dishes out of the cat. I want to take the opportunity to tell people we also had a Category:Offal soup, which I moved to Category:Offal soups. Please do not open "generic" cats in singular, like "mutton soup", "lamb soup", "lamb stew" etc. In many cuisines there are different ways of doing things and they can only be reconciled under a "plural" cat. The case of Category:Lentil soups is a good example. There are three national and "plural" cats in it, i.e. "Lentil soups of Chile", "Lentil soups of Germany", and "Lentil soups of Turkey". That means, even in one country there are various "lentil soups". Take the opportunity to comment on singular-plural "generic" names, like "x soup" / "x soups". (X stands for some common food item, like lamb, mutton, beef, fish, offal, beans etc.) E4024 (talk) 14:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: by Scudsvlad. --ƏXPLICIT 06:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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category will be empty when sole photo gets deleted. associated links have either been deleted or awaiting deletion. Quakewoody (talk) 12:04, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: by Gbawden. Has been recreated and populated hence. --ƏXPLICIT 06:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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seems to be a duplicate to Category:Birds building nests‎ Reseletti (talk) 14:09, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, "nesting" has a wider scope which includes the use of a finished nest (laying, brooding, feeding young). If anything, "building nests" ought to be a subcategory for "nesting". --Pitke (talk) 20:18, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Pitke. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all!
Category:Birds nesting are for example breeding birds, birds feeding young etc. Everything where a bird has a nest and lives in or with it.
Category:Birds building nests are birds, which carry sticks, grass, feathers and add them to the nest, as it is not yet ready or they want to repair or change it.
Category:Birds building nests may be a subcategory of Category:Birds nesting, depending if you think nesting begins with nest construcion, but it is not the same, as a nest with a breeding bird or chicks is usually ready and no nestbuilding activity occurs then.
--Kersti (talk) 19:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think of "nesting" as a synonym for building a nest. Perhaps Category:Birds nesting could be moved to Category:Birds in nests? - Themightyquill (talk) 11:32, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
According to the dictionaries I consulted you are wrong. Nesting includes living in a nest. Additionally nesting bird is not in the nest all the time. He may search food for ist chicks or similar. Kersti (talk) 01:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 05:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this category necessary? Adelfrank (talk) 23:05, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • IMHO, as we have "male" and "female" cats it is normal and even good to have this, to separate things better. In many country cats female vocalists are under "vocalists" as if being female is a special feature; wherever we have female "perhaps" we should also have "male" cats; therefore by gender is OK, but not only for Hungary or a few other nations. If others see it unnecessary no problem for me either. --E4024 (talk) 23:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • E4024 ,Category:Vocalists from Hungary by gender" is the badest idea ever - not all people find it and Category:Female vocalists from Hungary and Category:Male vocalists from Hungary, this is exact 1 category more in the list - My suggestion: DELETE "by gender" and "normal people" do not unnecessarily complicate access to the category - even if some mean the more categories with subcategories the better Adelfrank (talk) 23:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would stress there are plenty of worse ideas in the world than categorizing vocalists from Hungary by gender on wikimedia commons. But more specifically, I don't understand your complaint. Are you suggesting we not categorize Category:Vocalists by gender at all? Or that we place all Category:Female vocalists in one enormous category without subdivisions? Or that we not categorize Category:Vocalists by country at all? Or that we should place all Category:Vocalists from the United States into one enormous category without subdivisions? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
People look at country cats more often than those ones; if I had seen that the nominator opened a discussion at every possible cat I would choose another to reply, perhaps, but I happened to respond here and better let us discuss the merits and not the venue. (There are good Hungarian and Chech beers here, also. :) E4024 (talk) 23:46, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What I mean is not the category male or female. This is ONLY the category artist/singer/writer/etc. BY GENDER. Here you can find exemplares without sense: Category:Musicians from Comoros Category:Musicians from Comoros by gender. The problem is all times my bad English. And I think many not-native-english speaking people have also the problem to understand that we have no only male or female, No we have BY GENDER. That I must look in some cat.s at next artist/singer/writer/etc. by gender and put or find my pic there, this is for many people not to find. Hope I can explain: I need the cat.s when I will upload a pic or I will find a pic. example 1: At first I look in Category artist/singer/writer/etc.. Then I look male or female. If I find it I go there. If I do'nt find male or female it's my place. Category:Music from Sri Lanka Category:Musicans from Sri Lanka CategorySingers from Sri Lanka NO! And now? I remember. A friend says to mee in wiki you must take vocalists. O.k. Category:Vocalists from Sri Lanka WOW. This is my place. example 2: My pic is not from Sri Lanka, the singer is from the group ABBA. let's go: Category:Vocalists from Sweden WOW! In red the information: Please note that female and male vocalists from Sweden now have categories of their own! Perfect - female or male - finish in swedish example 3: I look for a pic from a singer from Germany. Step 1: Category:Vocalists from Germany, ok. Finish? We have not female or male! I think YES. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! In the list under point 6 we have BY GENDER. I hope some people can find it, and also I hope some people understand the problem better. Sorry for my bad English. Adelfrank (talk) 12:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. And this: Category:Musicians from Bahrain Category:Musicians from Bahrain by gender Category:Female musicians from Bahrain Category:Vocalists from Bahrain by gender Category:Female vocalists from Bahrain for 0 pic, that is for me te best of all. Adelfrank (talk) 12:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In Category:Vocalists by gender by country we have 36 countries, in Category:Vocalists by country we have 166 countries. Is it not possible to have female vocalists and male vocalists how in the 130 other countries? - In the Category:Vocalists by country by gender we can find all. Adelfrank (talk) 13:28, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Adelfrank: Could you try explaining in German? - Themightyquill (talk) 21:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ich glaube nicht, dass es irgendwen interessiert, aber ok. Meiner Meinung nach, genügt es "weiblich" und "männlich" in den Kategorien zu haben. So sieht auch der ungeübte Nutzer, dass es 2 Kategorien gibt, für painter, vocalist oder musican usw. Dass unerfahrene Nutzer wenn auf einer Seite/Kategorie z.B. educator, economist - nicht "weiblich" oder "männlich" steht, dann gehört das Bild in diese Kategorie. Viele machen das aber auch bei painter, vocalist oder musician, weil sie nicht im Traum darauf kommen (mich eingeschlossen), dass "weiblich" und "männlich" in der Category:XYZ by gender stecken (versteckt sind). Ich halte das für überflüssige Unterkategorisierung der beiden wichtigen Kategorien "weiblich" und "männlich". Für Transgender gibt es höchstens 10 Artikel in der gesamten Wikimedia. - Wie überflüssig by gender ist, sieht man daran. dass es nur in 36 Ländern Category:Vocalists from XYZ by gender gibt, das heißt: von 166 kommen 130 Länder ohne diese Kategorie aus. Adelfrank (talk) 22:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that the fact that it isn't used for all countries rather demonstrates that commons is short of labour to organize the amount of content, rather than evidence that this organization is unnecessary. I think there are valid arguments against commons' use of gender in general, but that's a much larger discussion than vocalists by country by gender. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:48, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: no valid reason for deletion. --ƏXPLICIT 06:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this category necessary? Adelfrank (talk) 23:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see your point. Yes, these gender categories are all a little bit gaga, but it belongs to the Category:Musicians by gender by country. And this category is not for discussion. So there should not be any problems with it. --J.-H. Janßen (talk) 18:40, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: no valid reason for deletion. --ƏXPLICIT 05:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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to be merged with category:Rolling dogs. The parent is category:Rolling animals Estopedist1 (talk) 05:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense to me. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:33, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Oppose Merge should be done in the opposite direction and $subject $activity should be adopted as the naming convention for similar categories. 1) For disambiguation purposes, $animal $behaviour is needed in order to distinguish from otherwise identical $purpose $animal (e.g. "herding dogs" vs "dogs herding"). 2) For ease of HotCat use, it is better to have activities of (e.g.) dogs listed once one has typed "dogs", rather than having different animals listed after one has typed "rolling"--trying to find a suitable category for a picture, the animal is trivial to name but the behaviour often not. --Pitke (talk) 09:38, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment The position of @Pitke: sounds reasonable. There's nothing like structure to help us through this plethora of pictures. --PtrQs (talk) 21:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]
@Themightyquill, PtrQs, and Pitke: user:Pitke's comment is not easy to fully grasp. But, it seems that we have many categories, where the subject is after activity, eg category:Walking people (exercise or sports), category:Running people--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:19, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Let me try again-- "homing pidgeons" are pidgeons bred and kept for their homing ability--whether nesting, reesting, eating, or actively homing. "Pidgeons homing" is unambiguously limited to the pidgeon activity of homing. "Homing pidgeons" would be ambiguous, and would have to rely on (brackets) or Arbitrary Capitalisation (such as "Homing pidgeons" for the activity and "Homing Pidgeons" for the utility group). Same case exists with at least: walking horses (i.e. term of art for gaited horses) vs horses walking, walking dogs (which would be a bad name for people taking dogs to walks but still a problem) vs dogs walking...
You'll also see that the "Walking people (exercise or sport)" category is child to "People exercising" and parent to "Adults walking (exercise...)". There's also Men, Women, Children and Military people exercising. --Pitke (talk) 13:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That seems reasonable. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:02, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done: reverse merged. --ƏXPLICIT 06:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This does not seem to make sense. Both files in this category are already in more meaningful cats. ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 07:59, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 06:11, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Title seems redundant. Per description, this should probably be named Category:Typeface samples created with Font Specimen Creator. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:01, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I usually put the qualifier of image sets in parentheses, so it's Typeface samples (Font Specimen Creator) for now. Watchduck (quack) 22:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You should probably have closed the discussion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 05:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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to be deleted. Category:Files with bad file names does the job Estopedist1 (talk) 06:36, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Watchduck and ~riley: Do you have any thoughts on this? - Themightyquill (talk) 07:17, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It does indeed make more sense, to categorize by motive, than by why the name is bad. But on the other hand it would make sense, to identify these images with a bot. And then it would only be filenames with potentially meaningless prefixes. Exceptions like File:$25 chip.svg would have to be removed manually. (Compare my comment in the discussion about Files with two question marks.) Watchduck (quack) 11:06, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I would  Oppose. This category is helpful for differentiating between bad prefixes, with file names that are generally not descriptive. EpicPupper (talk) 19:29, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kept no consensus for deletion, not a clear duplicate. Elli (talk) 09:25, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Army or naval? Officers or officers? E4024 (talk) 23:03, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Category:Naval officers of Egypt ? - Themightyquill (talk) 07:51, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
support solution per user:Themightyquill and per parent Category:Naval officers by country--Estopedist1 (talk) 07:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done as specified. – BMacZero (🗩) 20:33, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Unclear how this is different from Category:Penicillin antibiotics. Neither is a subcat of other, neither are even in the same parent-cat trees. But I don't see anything in either that doesn't seem consistent with things in the other. DMacks (talk) 23:01, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per discussion. --Leyo 10:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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problematic (?) requested move:

{{move|Basilica Autarena|Name should not include the town|2020-05-17}}

@Gambo7: in addition, itwiki uses the name "it:basilica autarena" Estopedist1 (talk) 06:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The name should be "Basilica autarena", not "Basilica autarena of...". The current name is the same as "Basilica di San Pietro di Roma", such as "Category:Saint Peter's Basilica of Rome" for "Category:Saint Peter's Basilica", city is not included in category's names, or it should be included, when necessary, as a disambigation. --Gambo7 (talk) 06:42, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could any Italian users help, eg @Jaqen and Blackcat: ?--Estopedist1 (talk) 10:32, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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useless /double; see Category:Saint Mary Church (Tripkau, Amt Neuhaus). Martin Sg. (talk) 09:33, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Martin Sg.: Do you have a preference for which one we keep? Thanks. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
the english one ist more commons-like, probably. --Martin Sg. (talk) 17:42, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

stale discussion. English name is used, Wikidata has same name Estopedist1 (talk) 19:11, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems duplicative of Category:Wikipedia scripts. Logan Talk Contributions 04:22, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This category seems to be for anything related to scripts (images, etc), while Category:Wikipedia scripts seems to be for the scripts themselves. If anything, it would make sense to reverse the relationship, with scripts as the child category. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

stale discussion. The result was keep. Categories' relationship is changed Estopedist1 (talk) 21:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"Special" is subjective and does not have a well-defined scope. I suggest the following.

  1. Delete Category:Special or fictional logos and move the files into Category:Fictional logos, Category:Unofficial logos, or another appropriate logos category.
  2. Upmerge Category:Fictional logos from Category:Special or fictional logos to parent categories Category:Fictional symbols and Category:Logos
  3. Upmerge Category:Unofficial logos from Category:Special or fictional logos to parent category Category:Logos, as an unofficial logo does not make it a fictional logo (it is already categorized in Category:Unofficial).
  4. Remove Category:Estenas Technical Cushion University from this tree, as it is part of the fictional organizations category, not a logos category. ƏXPLICIT 03:23, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
These all make sense to me. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:32, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
stale discussion. Solution per @Explicit Estopedist1 (talk) 19:44, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted and sorted content per discussion. -- Themightyquill (talk) 19:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I believe we must dwell a bit more on pancake - crepe differentiation. Frankly I am not sure if at present our cats reflect the real life. Sometimes the different names given to food in different languages (and even in countries with the same language) take one to confusion. What is a "panqueque", a pancake or a crepe? We had a similar issue around "flan" etc. Does anybody remember? In Turkey we make "akıtma". IMHO I could call it pancake in English, crepe in French and panqueque in Spanish. As always I keep my right to be mistaken (again).... E4024 (talk) 18:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This category, like en:Category:Pancakes uses "pancake" as a general term which includes crepes and other regional variations. That makes sense to me. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

stale discussion.  Keep per user:Themightyquill--Estopedist1 (talk) 19:48, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Kept. -- Themightyquill (talk) 19:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Devrait être renommée Category:Église Saint-Marcel (Marseille), en accord avec les autres sous-catégories de Category:Churches in Marseille Fr.Latreille (talk) 13:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, unless there is another Église Saint-Marcel in Marseille. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:25, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
stale discussion. @Fr.Latreille: it seems that no objection for the proposed new name. We can rename it Estopedist1 (talk) 18:56, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done: already. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Inconsistent naming. Should we be using a) the noun of the religion's name, or b) the adjective of the religion's name, or c) the name of an adherent of the religion? And in the case of Judaism, do we only mean 'Jews' in the religious sense or also in the 'ethnic/cultural/racial' sense? The former would exclude secular/humanist/atheist Jews. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS: My own preference would be a) the noun of the religion's name. This would mean that the following new names would be used: Christianity distribution maps, Bahá'í Faith distribution maps‎, Hinduism distribution maps; their subcategories would also have to be renamed‎. The other categories' names would remain unaffected. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:27, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus is to use the noun of the religion's name. --Sbb1413 (he) (talkcontribs) 13:52, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Is "library in Mito city" necessary. Mario1257 (talk) 15:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be explanation in Japanese.
「水戸市内の図書館」ではなく、「水戸市立図書館」に改名することを提案します。先ほど、Category:Ibaraki Prefectural Libraryを作成し、茨城県立図書館を独立させました。しかし、現状のままだと、水戸市立図書館以外も含むことになってしまいます。なので、カテゴリ名を水戸市立図書館(Mito City Liblary)に改名し、このカテゴリ(Libraries in Mito, Ibaraki)を削除することを提案します。--Mario1257 (talk) 15:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC) Modified for clarity.--Mario1257 (talk) 16:34, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

stale discussion.  Keep there seems to be several libraries in this city--Estopedist1 (talk) 09:29, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


kept as per Yasu.--RZuo (talk) 15:58, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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صور جنسية 105.67.1.61 22:31, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


no action needed.--RZuo (talk) 15:52, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]