Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tiger I model.jpg

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File:Tiger I model.jpg

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Derivative work; scale models are sculptural works per 17 U.S.C. § 101. Previously kept based on nonsense argument with no basis in reality. The U.S. Copyright Office explicitly includes "scale model" as a category on its visual arts registration form; the U.S. Copyright Office Catalog of Copyright Entries is replete with models and scale models; and Monogram Models, Inc. v. Industro Motive Corp., 492 F.2d 1281, 1284 (6th Cir. 1974) found scale models to be eligible for copyright. See User:Elcobbola/Models for more explanation. Эlcobbola talk 19:55, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep the only possible copyright holder is Henschel as the designer and manufacturer of this tank. Did Henschel register a copyright for this vehicle? Any model of this tank is to be considered a derivative work of the original and used without permission then. --Denniss (talk) 20:06, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Registration is not necessary to secure a copyright. Tamiya, the model's creator, would hold the copyright, but even that doesn't matter per COM:PRP. Эlcobbola talk 20:09, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If Tamiya registered a (doubtful) copyright then the image may be deleted, otherwise there's no valid reason to delete. --Denniss (talk) 11:45, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A readily accessible example of a Tamiya notice on a Tiger I is here: "This kit has a copyright date of 1984." Tamiya routinely registers copyrights; the company has hundreds (thousands?) of entries in the Copyright Office Registry. It's laborious to search for the Tiger I specifically, but quick examples from the list of records are models of the Japanese battleship Musashi and Harley-Davidson FLH Classic (note, for example, that Tamiya and not Harley Davidson got the copyright). There's every reason to believe a diligent search would find the Tiger I, but it really isn't relevant because copyright attaches upon creation. Registration isn't necessary to secure the copyright. Эlcobbola talk 15:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Denniss is not correct. The full size tank does not have a copyright and never did because it is utilitarian. All models have a copyright -- in some countries they are "sculpture", while in others, including the USA, they are explicitly named in the copyright law. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:09, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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