Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Popeye

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Files in Category:Popeye

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Well this is a big mess, and there are a number of subcategories that VisualFileChange won't pick up in a batch task. Long story short, the creator of Popeye died in 1938, but for copyright purposes, the character is protected until 2024 because it is considered a work-for-hire and protected for 95 years rather than 70. There may be different ways this affects different characters besides Popeye himself (?), but E. C. Segar seems to have created all the major characters for the strip. In cases where a single work, like a strip has fallen out of copyright but the "set" is still copyrighted, I presume this would be like any other derivative work.

GMGtalk 19:20, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File File:Grafites - Jaguaré 01.jpg is a graffiti in open public space in Brazil, 100% protected by Freedom of Panorama. This was not done by Popeye's author, so it doesn't matter when he died. I think this should be cancelled and the files reviewed one by one. Clearly the argument for deletion doesn't apply to all files. Dornicke (talk) 12:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm honestly not sure exactly how that works out in the end. It stands to reason that Brazilian FOP would cover the two dimensional work, but since the two dimensional work is itself derivative of another copyrighted work, it's not clear that it would also cover that original copyright, since it was the creator of the mural and not the owner of the character that made the decision to display the work publicly. Any thoughts about the issue are welcome. GMGtalk 13:25, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Would you consider contacting King Features Syndicate (the trademark holder). Some of these images are historic - indeed the NARA ones may well have been created under licence (maybe the UK ones too, for all I know) - and they may allow these instances to persist. Otherwise I look forward to seeing them again in 5 years and we'll keep enjoying them here, where Popeye is out of copyright. --Mr impossible (talk) 17:14, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment we need to clear up some misconceptions. The Wikipedia article is flat-out wrong, as is, surprisingly, the source that it is quoting. Authorship, corporate or not, is irrelevant for pre-1978 American works (reliable source: Hirtle chart). What does matter is whether the copyright on the original work was renewed. If it wasn't, then the Popeye character is no longer copyrighted, nor are any screenshots of Popeye which weren't renewed either.
Now it's entirely plausible that the original Popeye was renewed, which would confer 95 years of protection on the character. Someone with more patience than I can look search the copyright renewals here: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/cce/. The copyright would probably be listed under King Features, Thimble Theatre, or Popeye and would likely be renewed in 56 or 57.
If this all sounds very lawyerly and complex... welcome to the world of copyright renewals, where little gotchas can trip you up. This was a primary reason that the world and the US Congress ditched the system in the 1970s. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:53, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination- NOte that FoP does not apply to unauthorized uses of an image -- you can't get a free image of Mickey Mouse by drwaing it on a wll in Berlin. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 16:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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