Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Pticy uleteli

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Files uploaded by Pticy uleteli (talk · contribs)

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DW rather than own work. No source for the base map, unknown copyright situation.

Jcb (talk) 13:54, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What mean "unsourced"? This is My Own Work ({{self}}). Not stolen anywhere. Created from zero from free GIS data. --Kikos (talk) 12:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep. I think these files should be kept under at least three grounds: Firstly, there doesn't seem to be reasonable doubt about these maps being derivatives of particular copyrightable cartographic work. Previously original uploader has explicitly stated that they are the author of several other maps from the same series (e.g. this, and now uploader has also confirmed this here for the whole series. It hasn't been shown that there is some other (non-free) map by some other author that these maps might be derivatives of. So I believe we should assume good faith (COM:AGF).
Secondly, we are dealing with simple coloured outline maps here. As per COM:DW#Maps that sort of maps are below the threshold of originality. Even if administrative boundaries here originate from third-party source, then similar to COM:DW example of US map showing the state boundaries, they shouldn't be considered copyrightable. Even if colours weren't known to be by the uploader here, then colours in themselves aren't copyrightable either.
Thirdly, Latvian public geographic data is open data (general description here), this includes parish boundaries (e.g. as part of this dataset). That sort of data can originate only from public source and author confirms that they obtained it from public source (i.e. the land board that provides open data, see here). As it's open data then there are no known restrictions that would prohibit free use. So, there even isn't a good reason to think that database rights of particular dataset or other related non-copyright rights (that we aren't really interested in, see COM:NCR) were infringed. Pikne 16:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This map dis definitely too complex to be ineligible for copyright and if the map would be fully own work by uploader this is so unusual that additional evidence would be needed. Jcb (talk) 17:31, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cartographic result, i.e. the possibly creative work, even if not ineligible for copyright, is released to the public domain by the author in this case. Part of this map that is probably not by the author, i.e. parish outlines, however most likely is ineligible for copyright, at least that's what COM:DW guidelines suggest.
Or, we can put it differently: this isn't a derivative work because there isn't reasonable doubt that it is derived from another (copyrighted) creative work. Creative work, i.e. not the geographic data, most likely is entirely own work by original uploader.
It is usual that GPS data or other sorts of geographic data is used when creating maps. This being the case does not mean that cartographic work itself is not entirely by the cartographer. According to my experience this here is all about assuming good faith that cartographic work itself (map) is entirely by uploader if they explicitly claim so. Otherwise you'd probably have to delete most maps on Commons.
Geographic data, that you may consider this work to be "derived" from, if protected, is usually protected under database rights, and, as said, we are not interested in database rights (COM:NCR). Even if you want that non-copyright rights weren't infringed in this case, then, as indicated, there is evidence that they were not: public data used here is open data. Pikne 09:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --JuTa 17:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Restored after undeletion request. In my opinion deletion of the files was mistake. Taivo (talk) 07:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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