Commons:Deletion requests/Image:President and Mrs. Reagan pose in the Blue Room for their official portrait 1981.jpg

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„The Ronald Reagan Library states that this photo is in the public domain.“ – can’t find such a permission. There are 183 images from this source, all with a PD claim. Did they change their policy or do I just have a blind spot?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALinksearch&target=*.reagan.utexas.edu --Polarlys 21:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • well it is administered by the National archives and records administration, and the official photographers are federal employees so it should be exempt from copyright considering the other presidential photographs are Madmax32 23:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • They changed the site - see archive.org's copy [1], where it says in boldface "All the photographs are in the public domain.". That statement has since been removed - whether because they realized it was wrong, or because they've since added non-PD images, I don't know. --Davepape 02:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
We can’t assume that all this content is in the public domain :-( --Polarlys 11:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I can not find any statemnt at the source that these images are in fact public domain. Some of these images might be in the PD because an US official has taken them. But as long as there is no proof for that I would say, that we have to delete all these images. --ALE! ¿…? 07:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep - There are hundereds of images from that site currently uploaded onto Wiki Commons. While it is true that the website formerly read that all images were in the PD, it does currently read: "Please credit 'Courtesy Ronald Reagan Library' " and expresses this in its audiovisual records disclaimer. However, seeing that all the images of Reagan's presidency (which are 90% of the images displayed in this catalog) were taken while he was president, they were taken by official White House photographer, making them pass on {{PD-USGov}} and {{PD-USGov-POTUS}} (not to mention that all are available from the National Archives Online Photo Collection). There is absolutely no legitimate reason to delete this image, nor any others from the Reagan Library. Happyme22 23:57, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep. Both U.S. law and a previous version of the website claim these to be PD. There's no evidence to say they're not. It seems they removed the PD notice because "The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation has expressed concern regarding the misuse of photographs of the former President." Having just a simple PD statement was probably not ideal because it didn't mention personality/moral rights. (Even if they removed this because they did add non-PD photos, it's still cool, because we got this way before that archive.org snapshot was taken.) In addition, requesting (not requiring) attribution is always allowed even if it's PD (NASA does this). I would have closed this myself but had too much to say. :) Rocket000 17:40, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. Public domain. 哦,是吗?(O-person) 21:04, 24 December 2007 (GMT)