Commons:Deletion requests/2024/07/10

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copyvio - unclear its even PD in NZ, definitely not PD in US because of URAA issues, license its otherwise released under is non commercial according to source. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 02:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep A photograph where the creator is unknown taken over 50 years ago is PD in NZ. Kiwichris (talk) 05:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
even if so its not PD in US because it has only been PD in NZ since 2010 which is after URAA date. According to Commons:Hirtle_chart it will be PD in US in 2055, 95 years after publication TheLoyalOrder (talk) 09:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which section of the Hirtle chart (which is just a general guide and nothing official or definitive) are you claiming this falls under? Kiwichris (talk) 12:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Works Published Abroad Before 1978 -> and then either "Solely published abroad, without compliance with US formalities or republication in the US, and not in the public domain in its home country as of URAA date" or "Published in compliance with all US formalities (notice, and renewal for pre-1964 works)" -> both of which are 95 years. Seems unlikely the Bay of Plenty Times published according to US formalities but it doesnt matter in this case, I also doubt they published in the US at all so can't go by that section in the Hirtle chart. Obviously this chart isnt some legal ruling or law but it exists to help with determining stuff like this on WMC. What justification is there for this to be PD in US otherwise against what the chart says? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Your copyright interpretation is simply based on what you think is unlikely. Your assumption laden opinion is duly noted. Kiwichris (talk) 11:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

copyvio - unclear its even PD in NZ, definitely not PD in US because of URAA issues, license its otherwise released under is non commercial according to source. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 02:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The image is marked as a public domain government work but is in fact a work of a US government contractor, namely the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. It is from an old version of the website; the new version includes a CC-BY-NC-SA license, but that is not eligible for Wikipedia, and I have no evidence of a prior less restrictive license, or any at all. Given LLNL goes to the trouble of providing a license, I don't believe its works are public domain under any legal loopholes: therefore, this has to be deleted. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The image is marked as a public domain government work but is in fact a work of a US government contractor, namely the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. It is from an old version of the website; the new version includes a CC-BY-NC-SA license, but that is not eligible for Wikipedia, and I have no evidence of a prior less restrictive license, or any at all. Given LLNL goes to the trouble of providing a license, I don't believe its works are public domain under any legal loopholes: therefore, this has to be deleted Mrfoogles (talk) 04:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Explicit as no permission (No permission since) Krd 04:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was transfered on en.wikipedia by Gaius Petronius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gaius_Petronius). This user can not be reached by email. I sent an email to Rick Ray, but did not get a response. Would be great to ask the author of the photo, Mikayla Mackaness. http://www.mikaylamackaness.com/L/ I haven't tried yet. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 08:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The image is marked as a public domain government work but is in fact a work of a US government contractor, namely the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. It is from an old version of the website; the new version includes a CC-BY-NC-SA license, but that is not eligible for Wikipedia, and I have no evidence of a prior less restrictive license, or any at all. Given LLNL goes to the trouble of providing a license, I don't believe its works are public domain under any legal loopholes: therefore, this has to be deleted Mrfoogles (talk) 04:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it could be uploaded to Wikipedia under the fair use policy, probably, but not here Mrfoogles (talk) 04:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of the PMF, copyrighted in Iraq. This very same flag was deleted from Commons previously, under a different file name. Thespoondragon (talk) 05:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not very familiar with flag copyright guidelines but afaik, there is a copyright exception if the file in is small dimension, logo format, which is the case here. Ecrusized (talk) 11:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reducing the size of a work does not except it from copyright. You may be thinking of Wikipedia's Non-free content criteria, which does not apply here. Wikimedia Commons only accepts works that are in the public domain or have a compatible license. ArcticSeeress (talk) 20:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A logo used as a non free image on the wikipedia page, with no evidence of being released under CC 3. It seems unlikely that it is. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly below TOO. I'm not sure. MB-one (talk) 08:20, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COM:PACKAGE メイド理世 (talk) 06:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


COM:PACKAGE メイド理世 (talk) 06:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Not own work. VRT-permission from the creator/photographer is needed. Estopedist1 (talk) 06:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not own work. VRT-permission from the creator/photographer is needed. Estopedist1 (talk) 06:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

its a duplicate with weird colors and not used on any page Engettly (talk) 07:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

possible copyvio: Credit: Mike Marsland / Contributor. See Getty Images: https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/eve-best-attends-the-house-of-the-dragon-sky-group-premiere-news-photo/1415159590?adppopup=true איז「Ysa」 08:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not a 2021 own work Gbawden (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Wikibamko (talk · contribs)

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Credited to akapic.com, needs VRT

Gbawden (talk) 08:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Offcom2rei (talk · contribs)

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Dubious licensing. professional photographs claimed to be posted Accord du photographem, one has Copyright holder Watson_L_RAJOELITSIORY/2REI/Défense in exif. All need VRT

Gbawden (talk) 08:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Gaius Publius Scipio (talk · contribs)

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Credited to Sipa USA via AP file - may be free as its from a hearing but we need a proper source

Gbawden (talk) 08:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mi vergogno di essere associata a questo "uomo" Daniellina97 (talk) 09:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


the person depicted has objected to the publication on Wikipedia(Wikimedia Commons). Amrei-Marie (talk) 09:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC) This person is a barely known author - what applies to famous public figures cannot yet apply to her.[reply]

  •  Comment The file is COM:INUSE, though. If we delete the file, there will be red-linked photos on 2 Wikipedia pages. So unless there's some legal requirement to delete it, it should be speedily kept unless all information about the author is removed from those two pages. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:03, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Above COM:TOO. Although Italy has a high TOO, the silhouette is not considered a simple geometric shape Arrow303 (talk) 10:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Angelomautone1 (talk · contribs)

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2 credited to Luca Colombo, other is not own work, all require VRT

Gbawden (talk) 10:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Free license isn't mentioned explicitly for this source, picture was uploaded because of misleading info RajatonRakkaus (talk) 10:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Low quality, tight crop, no exif, unlikely to be own work Gbawden (talk) 10:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment The depicted person is Igor Barygin. The uploader's user name is IbaryginBIN, for which one could guess: I[gor] Barygin BIN. So, the uploader and the depicted person might be one and the same. Nakonana (talk) 00:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. But there's still a question of authorship. Do you think it's likely to be a selfie? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:05, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Author Lavender Marsh, Copyright holder Texas Senate Media Services Not own work of the uploader, needs VRT to keep

Gbawden (talk) 11:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio: Logo appears to meet threshold of originality level. 2003:C0:8F0D:1500:CF7:7649:3517:956D 11:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Dr.Wiki54 as Speedy (SD) and the most recent rationale was: F10  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No source has been provided for this file. I tagged it {{Nsd}} but User:Pierre cb reverted it with the comment "This is from a NWS webpage in 2005 copyright free which is difficult to find in 2024".

COM:LI states "the following information must be given on the description page, regardless if the license requires it or not... The Source of the material."

Is "a NWS webpage... difficult to find in 2024" an adequate source to satisfy this requirement? Rlandmann (talk) 12:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep As stated, a source page of 2005 is impossible to find. This is however obviously a webpage capture from an NWS WFO at that time. Pierre cb (talk) 13:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is it "obviously" a webpage capture? --Rlandmann (talk) 22:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's tiny, even for 2005. Do you think it could be a regular photo? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever its source, it's probably been compressed for digital transmission (although not out of the question that it's been cropped from a larger image...); but that doesn't mean or even imply "webpage", let alone which webpage.
And, more to the point, if it is a webpage capture, we can't verify which webpage, and even if it's from weather.gov, they publish very many third-party images under a wide range of licenses, so without the original source and context we can't verify that this is a free image.
Therefore significant doubt exists that this image exists in the Public Domain or is available under a free license and COM:PRP says we should delete it.
COM:ONUS places the burden of evidence of its free status on the uploader or people wanting to keep it here. --Rlandmann (talk) 22:24, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't disagree with you on there being no proof of which webpage it was downloaded from. I wouldn't presume it's somehow public domain or something. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I probably didn't quote enough in my earlier reply. Should have been "How is it "obviously" a webpage capture from an NWS WFO at that time"?
That's what I get for taking shortcuts when typing! --Rlandmann (talk) 10:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The uploader claims copyright, although he is only the photographer. No statement of original author exists Creuzbourg (talk) 12:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The camera geolocation is for the Old Courthouse Museum in Vicksburg, which would make sense as the location of a picture of a young Jefferson Davis. (Confirmed.) I'm not finding online any list of portraits on display there or otherwise held by the museum. —Tcr25 (talk) 01:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've found a number of photos on the Old Courthouse Musuem's Facebook pages that show the picture in the background, but no closeups of the label. I've reached out to the museum for more info. —Tcr25 (talk) 12:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Via Facebook, the museum stated: "It is a portrait of Jefferson Davis. We believe the artist to be Nicola Marschall but there isn't a visible signature on the painting. It is thought to be painted in the 1870s while he was living in Memphis." The plaque below the portrait (https://ibb.co/4NbPLRz) does not include that information, however. —Tcr25 (talk) 14:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is not how the author is defined for copyright purposes; the original author (painter) is required. Yet, if its painted in the 1870s it ought to be in the public domain. But then the above mentioned information should be included on the page. Creuzbourg (talk) 22:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The artist attribution, etc., has been added to the page. —Tcr25 (talk) 01:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's an SVG version of this flag, see File:Flag of Angola (1965 proposal).svg. Adinar0012 (talk) 13:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not a legal deletion reason. SVG-Files are not editable for everyone. It is useful to have a PNG, too. JPF (talk)---- JPF (talk) 17:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Unfree file: The flag appears the seal, But the seal is copyrighted TentingZones1 (talk) 13:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


I don't see this in the linked source nor do I think this would have had an applicable license. Invalid license is what I'd go with here. SDudley (talk) 13:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per COM:FOP Japan. This photo was taken in Japan and these statues are copyrighted. IDCM (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The video and the channel are down. There is an archived version that shows the video has a CC-BY-SA, but it is not possible to evaluate the trustworthiness of the channel. Günther Frager (talk) 15:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The website of the TV channel still contains the link to that YouTube channel in the header.  Keep both. The reasoning is unsubstantial. INS Pirat (talk) 15:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence of initial publication date that would support the claim for public domain in India. The public domain in the US claim is also invalid as this insignia is not an "edict of a government". Ahecht (TALK
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en:Maharashtra Police comes under en:Ministry of Home Affairs (Maharashtra) of en:Government of Maharashtra. So being an edict of government it is free of copyright. The source of the image is this. Also see [1]. Bairagi Ram (talk) 09:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bairagi Ram An image is not an "edict". In the US, edicts are "legislative enactments, judicial decisions, administrative rulings, public ordinances, or similar types of official legal materials". Under Indian law, it would be "Text of laws, judicial opinions, and other government reports". Ahecht (TALK
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Hello @Ahecht:
You can check many documents on the official website of police like this one - https://www.mahapolice.gov.in/uploads/mat-circular.pdf. These documents have the police logo, hence an edict.
Regards Bairagi Ram (talk) 15:55, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The text of the edict would be in the public domain. Copyrighted logos don't become public domain just because they are on the letterhead that a public domain edict was published on (and Indian law specified that only the text is public domain). Ahecht (TALK
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If that is the case then the file should be moved to Wikipedia under fair use before deleting it from Commons. Bairagi Ram (talk) 11:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Andel as Dw no source since (dw no source since) Albinfo (talk) 15:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see an issue with this image.
yes, it's grabbed from the web ( https://www.reddit.com/r/austriahungary/comments/1c6ii8z/ww1_austrohungarian_soldiers_posing_alongside/#lightbox ).
But we can assume that it was taken before 1918.
Kel died in 1940 and the other version would also be PD by age with unknown photographer. I suggest to fix the license and keep the image – despite the watermark. Albinfo (talk) 15:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also don't see an issue with the image, but with the information given. PrekCali is not the original author of the image, and the licence tag is also incorrect. If the information is corrected, I have no problem with it remaining on Commons. Cheers, Andel (talk) 17:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Photo of s:zh:滿江紅·香洲烈士 by Ye Jianying (1897-1986). 15:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


This file is not official. Lightningscale (talk) 16:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


it's a logo. i think the shape is not PD-ineligible Yona B. (t) 16:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly non-free from Onlyfans LevandeMänniska (talk), 16:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The statue of Nestor Kirchner was made by Miguel Gerónimo Villalba (still alive) in 2014. It will be at least a century for it to be in the public domain Cambalachero (talk) 18:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep The statue is in Ecuador, which has FoP for works of fine arts, as indicated by the Decision 351 template in the file. I don't see the problem. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 03:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused png version of file:Mainland Australia (orthographic projection).svg. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 18:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A modern portrait. Likely a copyright violation. Ghirlandajo (talk) 18:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Свежесозданная иллюстрирующая не понятно что самоделка, выдаваемая за карту Стерлитамака 1928 года. Jim Hokins (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

wrong date, maybe copyright violation Xocolatl (talk) 19:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Likely Copyrighted portrait Ooligan (talk) 21:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly not a document. A logo or image file, or even a symbol, yes. Not sure, though if that's what is meant through the choice of words of the law in question. 🏺ⲈⲨⲐⲨⲘⲈⲚⲎⲊ🏛️ ⲱⲑⲏⲥⲁⲧⲉ 21:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Tm as Speedy (speedy) and the most recent rationale was: Per exif and description on source, this photo is not "Pool Moncloa" but EFE/EPA/MICHAEL REYNOLDS. Tm (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC); put before the community  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Billinghurst As the uploader and the speedy deletion requester. What is the doubt of this photo not being taken by one of the official photographers of the Palace of Moncloa, as the exif clearly says EFE/EPA/MICHAEL REYNOLDS, as in EFE=Agencia EFE, S.A. and EPA=European Pressphoto Agency, not "Pool Moncloa/Name of the Photographer" as appears in the photos from the Palace of Moncloa, i.e. "the official residence and workplace of the President of the Government" who is the depicted Pedro Sánchez, i.e. that this image is not under a free license? Tm (talk) 22:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Google Images comes up blank, but there's no metadata, it's a strage size, it has a partial border, and the uploader has uploaded clear copyvios before. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@The Squirrel Conspiracy Google Images comes blank because its original, and you can confirm authentication by checking the deity image on top of entrance, it is available on internet. Please pardon me for size and border ambiguities , I didn't know they mattered. Will take care onwards. Check: [2][3]. Thanks! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 05:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:PerspicazHistorian, I realize that small size is not a sufficient reason by itself to delete a photo, but why is it so small? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Way more complex than this logo which a court ruled copyrightable according to COM:TOO Slovenia. Jonteemil (talk) 22:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As complex as this logo which a court ruled copyrightable according to COM:TOO Slovenia. Jonteemil (talk) 22:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As complex as this logo which a court ruled copyrightable according to COM:TOO Slovenia. Jonteemil (talk) 22:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Comment I agree with you on the other 2 deletion requests above, but this is not as complex as the example you link. If that's the minimum standard for TOO in Slovenia, this one is under it. However, I don't know whether that's the minimum standard. I hope the closing admin does. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:33, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

La foto fue colgada por un usario que creó el mismo artículo promocional 10 veces en wikipedia sobre este escritor. Si eso no fuera suficiente, según el nombre de la foto, esta data del 2019. Este usuario comenzó su actividad reprochable este mismo año (por la que ha sido bloqueado permanentemente por un bibliotecario). Es muy probable que esta foto no sea "Trabajo propio" y, por ende, no podamos estar seguros de la licencia. Un saludo Daamu32 (talk) 23:59, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]