User talk:69.121.86.13
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Sokkjo in topic Template names
PIE etymologies
[edit]Not every PIE noun derives from a root, and not every root is an extension of simpler root. -- Skiulinamo (talk) 09:19, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Obviously. But by default one should look for potential roots for any native nouns, and words should be assumed native until evidence says otherwise. In the case of *h₂ewlós, the etymology is incomplete because it provides no explanation for how the word came to be. Either it was borrowed or natively derived, but neither option is even mentioned. There should also not be non-root entries that lack etymological categorization. — 2607:FB90:FE58:42A7:D939:8E19:3A5A:FA1C 20:01, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- You say "obviously", but then go on to say "either it was borrowed or natively derived". It doesn't have to be derived from anything, just as any root doesn't require derivation. -- Skiulinamo (talk) 21:38, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Everything that has morphology is derived from something at some point. Words with morphology don't pop into existence fully formed on no basis. The thematic ending *-o-s, for example, is one such potential component. Anyway, the etymologies need explanations, even if that explanation is “no explanation”. Try getting the point instead of always nitpicking others' words for your pointless arguments. — 69.121.86.13 22:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comparing nouns to roots is nonsense. It is not crazy to think every noun is analyzable as containing a root, whether that root is an onomatopoeia, or synchronic-only and isolated to that word, or back-formed to a borrowed word, or whatever the case. But this idea is unnecessary for considering an empty etymology insufficient. — 69.121.86.13 22:06, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- "It is not crazy to think every noun is analyzable as containing a root", it totally is -- George Dunkel level crazy -- if you believe everything started as a root. Roots are only secondary artificial constructs. PIE speakers had a concept of PoS and were completely capable of constructing new terms using that architecture. --Skiulinamo (talk) 03:59, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- You say "obviously", but then go on to say "either it was borrowed or natively derived". It doesn't have to be derived from anything, just as any root doesn't require derivation. -- Skiulinamo (talk) 21:38, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Template names
[edit]Please avoid diacritics in template names as it makes them more difficult to use. – Sokkjō 02:56, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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