User talk:Sol505000

English IPA Changes

Please do not go around systematically changing /ɪ/ to /ə/ without consensus or proper sources, as if it's incorrect. In the case of Africa for example, MW, Dictionary.com, Cambridge, Oxford Learner's, and Collins still represents it with /ɪ/. Only the OED has gone ahead and changed it to /ə/ at their entry for African. As such, I've reverted you for now. You should bring up the change you want to make at WT:Beer Parlour, similar to other pronunciation suggestions that have been brought up, such as Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2023/October § English IPA vowels or Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2022/November § /ɾ/ in GenAm. AG202 (talk) 12:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Fine, I'll pay more attention next time and check multiple sources. But deleting my transcriptions instead of fixing the IPA is completely unacceptable and disrespectful to my time and work. Sol505000 (talk) 18:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I solely reverted /ə/ back to /ɪ/. I did not delete any of the new transcriptions for terms that did not have them beforehand. Please direct critiques to the appropriate person. AG202 (talk) 19:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

My apologies, this is true. Sol505000 (talk) 19:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm also concerned about this, because the weak-vowel merger is a phonetic process, not a phonemic one. Changes like this one effectively falsified the reference which was already there, too. Theknightwho (talk) 13:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

"I'm also concerned about this, because the weak-vowel merger is a phonetic process, not a phonemic one." - This is false. It is a replacement of the phoneme IPA^(key): /ɪ/ with the phoneme IPA^(key): /ə/ which creates new homophones. And why on earth would you revert all my additions, even those where the weak vowel merger is of no concern?! I suggest that you check your eyes next time. Sol505000 (talk) 18:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I think you know why. Theknightwho (talk) 18:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

No, I do not. Spell it out please. Sol505000 (talk) 18:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Firstly, many of them are hypothetical, as these words never actually get said; only typed. For instance, why gookland /ˈɡuːklænd/ and not /ˈɡuːklənd/? We have no way of knowing, since neither are verifiable.

Secondly, this isn't your playground to act like an edgelord. Adding unverifiable pronunciations to a load of niche slurs isn't a positive contribution, to be quite frank. It's just clean-up work for other people. Theknightwho (talk) 19:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I cannot quite believe that you're bringing up the content of those pages. The only topic here should be the IPA. What pages I edit is my business alone - or is it not in your opinion? Whether I'm an "edgelord" in real life or not is also none of your concern. I suggest that we focus on the IPA.

The pronunciations are based on the non-offensive versions of those words. When you say "Killadelphia", you want the other person to know you're talking about Philadelphia - thus /ˌkɪləˈdɛlfiə/, or at least /ˈkɪlədɛlfiə/ when you're comparing it with /ˈfɪlədɛlfiə/, normally accented /ˌfɪləˈdɛlfiə/. It's common sense and there are thousands upon thousands of unsourced IPA transcriptions on Wiktionary. Why focus on those niche neologisms in particular?

Per -land, gookland is likely to be /ˈɡuːklænd/. Sol505000 (talk) 19:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes indeed: why focus on those niche neologisms in particular? Theknightwho (talk) 19:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Please leave my talk page. Sol505000 (talk) 19:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)