Talk:Bucha massacre

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Independent sources?

Is it truly 100% confirmed it was the russians or it's just alleged?

Could it be a case of Atrocity propaganda? BlackYaroslav (talk) 04:49, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The residents have confirmed it, including eye witness accounts given to Human rights watch and various reporters, including Reutuers. I mean, the twon was under Russian occupation, so who else was it going to be? Deathlibrarian (talk) 04:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Playing devil's advocate, some photos could be easily staged. Specially the ones of civilians with their hands tied behind their back. Given that it's in Ukraine best interest to increase western involvement in the war, and the previous pro-ukrainian stories that have been debunked, i'd say there's reason for skepticism. BlackYaroslav (talk) 05:00, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plenty of reputable, independent journalistic sources are backing this up. While it's possible it's all an elaborate hoax, there's no reason to believe and edit under that assumption at present. We can rewrite the article when and if that comes to pass. ThirdDolphin (talk) 05:44, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not a good article by any metric

No evidence yet that Russia killed them. Also replace estimated with "claimed by the Ukrainian government". And no 1-2 alleged eye witnesses are not evidence IdkIdc12345 (talk) 05:03, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]