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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Dick Kimball (talk | contribs) at 15:17, 28 November 2014 (→‎Crédit Mobilier of America scandal: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Elector

This asserts that Boutwell was a Presidential elector for Bryan in 1900; should that be ran for? He was not an Elector unless his slate took the state, and Boutwell lived in Massachusetts, which went for McKinley. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend that this article be improved. Any objections? Cmguy777 (talk) 21:04, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements have been made to the article. Thanks for all editors who have helped out. More needs to be done. Cmguy777 (talk) 00:17, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On 3-23-2013 I deleted an incorrect reference to the 13th Amendment from the Boutwell article, and my change appeared in the Boutwell article. I included a reference to a source to explain why I made that deletion. After doing so, I hadn't looked at the Boutwell article until today; now I see that my change is apparently still in the article, but I cannot find any history of my change in the View history area. Does that indicate that something is wrong with the way the View history area for this article is working? RW7890 (talk) 20:59, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do see your edit in there. SteveStrummer (talk) 21:28, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Mr. Strummer. I obviously don't know my way around; I see my contribution all spelled out as I wrote it when I click on the "your edit" link you provided but I still nothing about it when I click on the Boutwell article's View History. On 15 May I saw nothing in the my Contributions area, but today when I go to my Contributions area I see the Boutwell contribution that I made. RW7890 (talk) 21:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed POV

I removed undo criticism of Secretary Boutwell and POV. Wikipedia is not meant to bash a person's reputation whether alive or dead. The following has been removed from the article.

  • "Boutwell did little to withdraw paper currency from circulation, shaping his financial policy to forestall either inflation or deflation. Intellectual critics saw in these actions a want of guiding principle and a lack of solid theoretical knowledge. "He believed in knowledge just so far as it was convenient for him to justify his own theory that knowledge was a deception," Henry Adams wrote in a much-quoted analysis in 1870. "He believed in common schools, and not in political science; in ledgers and cash-books, but not in Adam Smith or Mill; as one might believe in the multiplication-table, but not in Laplace or Newton. By a natural logic he made of his disbelief in the higher branches of political science a basis for his political practice, and thus grounding action on ignorance he carried out his principle to its remotest conclusions."[1] But in a very corrupt time, it spoke well of Boutwell that nobody thought that he made money out of his Cabinet post, either for himself or his friends. Living within his salary, he lodged in a boarding-house throughout his tenure. His only pleasures lay in writing lectures and playing billiards or poker -- though never for money.[2] "He is an inaccessible man, uninfluenced by fear, favor, affection or hope of reward, and does not burst out into brillian exhibitions of love or hatred," a New England politician wrote his brother.[3]
  • "Boutwell's financial policy was less dogmatic than pragmatic."
  • Liberal reformers had hoped that he would embrace civil service reform and rush the country towards the resumption of specie payments; but while Boutwell appointed subordinates on the basis of merit for the most part, , he did little to rein in the spoils system outside of Washington, remaining on friendly terms with the party bosses."
  1. ^ Henry Adams, "The Session," North American Review, July, 1870, p. 36.
  2. ^ Chicago Times, March 6, 1875.
  3. ^ Henry F. French to Benjamin B. French, March 16, 1869, Benjamin B. French Papers, Library of Congress.
Let's try to keep criticism focused on his policy. We should not over praise or bash Boutwell's reputation. One thing is clear was that he was "haughty" or "inaccessable". I don't beleive Boutwell was a nice man to be around, but that does not mean we need to denegrate his character. Cmguy777 (talk) 04:54, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crédit Mobilier of America scandal

Then-Senator Boutwell was also involved, implicated, and investigated in the notorious Crédit Mobilier scandal of 1872, which please see.
☺ Dick Kimball (talk) 15:17, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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