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Flag

Please change the Taliban flag they are just a small group please change the Taliban flag to 3 color flag🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫 The people at Afghanistan support the Taliban flag because of fear but they love abd want 🇦🇫 203.171.96.250 (talk) 12:33, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia articles on flags reflect de facto territorial control and/or de jure diplomatic legitimacy, rather than people's feelings. AnonMoos (talk) 03:34, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The current de jure flag is the tricolor flag. The UN says this (https://www.un.org/en/about-us/member-states), Encyclopedia Britanica says this (https://www.britannica.com/place/Afghanistan), Country Flags says this (https://www.countryflags.com/flag-of-afghanistan/), the World Facebook says this (https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/afghanistan/flag), even Unicode says this (🇦🇫). Wikipedia tends to go by de jure. Please change the flag. 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 (talk) 21:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with User:Mr Reading Turtle. Khestwol (talk) 22:53, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly agree with Mr Reading Turtle. 173.72.36.83 (talk) 23:56, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Y'all can agree with each other all you like, the fact is we have a closed RfC, and the consensus isn't going to change without a new one. ― Tartan357 Talk 01:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also, a recent update: "[Abdul Salam Hanafi]: 'It is not the flag of the Taliban or the mullahs, it is the flag of the whole nation that has made sacrifices. This flag belongs to the whole of Afghanistan.' The Afghan national flag had been a black, red and green vertical tricolour with the national emblem overlaid in white, but the Taliban have ordered all government departments to display the white standard instead." The UN and US government are primary sources. They are involved, and would be sending a political message of recognition if they changed the flag. Countryflags.com is unreliable as a self-published source. Britannica is an encyclopedia that barely gets updated; we should be following actual recent reporting on events. ― Tartan357 Talk 01:27, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Abdul Salam Hanafi is part of a government that isn't recognised by any other country as the legitimate government of Afghanistan, so what? Cortador (talk) 11:43, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the flag of Afghanistan

This not the recognized national flag of Afghanistan by the people of the country. It just belongs to a group. Any political or terroristic group can have their own flag, but it cannot represent a nation. Please delete this from Wikipedia. Atal Afgan (talk) 03:33, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you should read the statement immediately above. (CC) Tbhotch™ 04:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Afghanistan

File:Flag-Afghanistan.jpg

The national flag of Afghanistan is a tri-color flag with a national logo, which describes the history and religion of Afghanistan, Since the early 20th century, Afghanistan has had numerous national flags. In 1928 Amānollāh Khan, having just returned from a trip to Europe, was determined to introduce modern principles into the country. He chose a tricolour of black for the dark ages of the past, red for the blood shed in the independence struggle, and green for the hope and wealth of the future. Amānollāh was soon overthrown by reactionary forces, and the old Afghan flag (a white emblem on a black field) was restored. When Moḥammad Nāder Shah came to the throne, the tricolour was resurrected and continued in use from 1929 to 1973, when the monarchy was overthrown and a republic established.

Under the republic the stripes were placed in a horizontal position and a new coat of arms was developed; between 1978 and 1992, however, flags reflected the ruling communist regimes. After a bitter and protracted civil war, Islamic rebels (mujahideen) overthrew the government. Their flag, adopted on December 3, 1992, contained stripes of green-white-black with a central coat of arms in gold. Muslim values were emphasized in the design of the arms and in its Arabic inscriptions, translated as “Islamic State of Afghanistan,” “God is great,” and “There is no deity but God; Muhammad is the messenger of God.” The coat of arms also featured a mosque with a prayer niche and altar, two flags, two crossed sabres, and sheaves of wheat. The government that adopted that flag was reduced to control over only a few provinces in the north by 1997, but internationally its flag was still recognized for Afghanistan. An even more reactionary Muslim group known as the Taliban, which controlled the rest of the country, flew white flags emblazoned with Arabic inscriptions. Now Taliban are ruling the country and they have their own flag, which is not National flag of the country but a Party flag, which has white color. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burhansafi2 (talk • contribs) 19:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:Flag of Afghanistan (1978–1980).svg was the flag of one faction of one party, but nevertheless we have it listed as a historical national flag of Afghanistan.... AnonMoos (talk) 22:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
According to Deputy Prime Minister Abdul Salam Hanafi: "It is not the flag of the Taliban or the mullahs, it is the flag of the whole nation that has made sacrifices. This flag belongs to the whole of Afghanistan." ― Tartan357 Talk 02:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request (Missing Flag 2004-2013) on 11 April 2022

Insert another Flag which was around from 9 october 2004 to 19 august 2013 which is missing. The Flag is here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Afghanistan_(2004–2013).svg The Source for the exact date is here: https://www.afghan-web.com/government-politics/flag/ PreserveOurHistory (talk) 09:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Added. --mfb (talk) 01:22, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BlinxTheKitty: If the same flag was used the whole time then the files should be renamed - the current situation is obviously confusing. --mfb (talk) 06:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest probably requesting the "2004-2013" flag be renamed something like "Afghanistan Small Emblem Variant" or similar. @Mfb: --BlinxTheKitty (talk) 16:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2004-2013 Flag Dispute

Can it be listed as a flag variant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PreserveOurHistory (talk • contribs) 15:32, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is my idea, while it's not a official design thus rendering the "2004-2013" tag as dubious, it is in deed a variant in a way that could be added, file just needs a rename. --BlinxTheKitty (talk) 15:56, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've added it back in as a 'Variant'. You are right that there was no official flag for Afghanistan and that circular emblem flag was just a variant, but even here there is al Jazeera that says the flag was made official and specific by August 19th, 2013. "Towards the end of Karzai’s rule, a tweaked flag is unveiled. The white emblem is larger, overlapping the black and green bands, and some details were added." So I think that we should still list a variant for people to simply be aware of. PreserveOurHistory (talk) 09:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Al Jazeera is merely using the old revisions of this page for their sources, they're even using the old SVG's . --BlinxTheKitty (talk) 14:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About the flag

So the first version of the flag currently used by the afghan embassy in china,all afghan embassies use the first version of the flag,but in Afghanistan they use the current version of the flag.what the heck? 105.101.86.51 (talk) 08:43, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2022

The Islamic emirate (Taliban fighters flag) 🏳. It doesn't represent the Afghanistan national flag 🇦🇫.

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/8/19/afghans-display-national-flag-as-they-mark-independence-day 007Unknown (talk) 02:23, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: This is actually a controversial edit, so you'll need to discuss first with other editors. Please open a new section here and start a discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the #FAQ. ― Tartan357 Talk 03:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2022

Cesar David MP (talk) 00:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add variant flags

File:Flag of Afghanistan (variant used in protests).svg
File:Flag of Afghanistan (Another Variant used in protests).svg
 Not done for now: This is actually a controversial edit, so you'll need to discuss first with other editors. Please open a new section here and start a discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:02, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Add variant flags is vague. Where? The infobox? The IRA flags are already in the full list. There is a consensus only to include the IEA flags in the infobox. Submitting an edit request will not get you a different answer than the #FAQ already provides. ― Tartan357 Talk 03:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Script

To my untrained eye, the text on the flag is identical to the text on the Saudi Arabian flag, and that article mentions that it is in "Thuluth" script. Should the Afghan flag article mention the script or say something about the similarity to the Saudi flag?

EinkomischerKauz (talk) 06:12, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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