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It has been proposed in this section that Flower Power (song) be renamed and moved to Flower Power (Girls' Generation song).

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Flower Power (song) → Flower Power (Girls' Generation song) – Restore name of band, ambiguating title is unhelpful for majority of English language users, since Japanese song is not as notable in English print sources as the Ibiza club hit, adapted to Danii Minogue's You Won't Forget About Me. Per WP:DAB and Hurricane. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Only if that song by Danii Minogue was titled "Flower Power" it would be necessary to disambiguate further by artist name. A hatnote will suffice (which I've added). Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 07:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Raykyogrou0, can you please cite from WP:DAB to support your view. Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:23, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Use further disambiguation only when needed." WP:DABSONG.

Another example: would Off the Wall (album) have to be moved to Off the Wall (Michael Jackson album) because The Ugly Ducklings also released an album called Off the Wall in 1980?. Yes, perhaps if that album somehow managed to gain enough notability overnight to create an article.

Also, if the instrumental used on You Won't Forget About Me would get its own article, it would be at Flower Power (instrumental). Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 12:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, which is why we do Google searches:

"flower power is" "dannii" gets 190,000 plain Google hits

"flower power is" "girls' generation" gets 35,400 Google hits

Which is the subject which is more notable in plain English Google? In ictu oculi (talk) 17:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You do realize that that refers to DJ Flower Power? Besides, this rm is about disambiguating "Flower Power (song)" from other songs. You used "You Won't Forget About Me" as an example, except the song is not even titled "Flower Power", the instrumental track used is. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 06:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

True it is difficult to separate DJ Flower Power from his signature tune, "flower power" but either way the instrumental is covered in the Danii Minogue article, which is why I cited Hurricane. You understand why Hurricane is relevant? In ictu oculi (talk) 07:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane is a redirect to Tropical cyclone because a hurricane, typhoon and tropical cyclone are all essentially the same weather phenomenon, but depending on the geographical location of the storm. That is different from this because this song is not the same as the instrumental "Flower Power", it merely happens to share the title. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 08:57, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Per WP:NCM / WP:SONGDAB and no evidence of any special claim of exceptional noteworthiness. (And, per WP:DAB, what matters is whether a topic is covered on Wikipedia, not whether it's the subject of a separate article or not.) —BarrelProof (talk) 07:04, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CommentWP:SONGDAB states that to "use further disambiguation only when needed". Why would it be needed here? Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 08:57, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]