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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by RhinoMind (talk | contribs) at 23:46, 10 March 2018 (Part of Europe?). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Map

Somebody add a map please Nergaal 13:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name

"The name comes from the Greek for "blessed islands"... or maybe not. Maybe Macaronesia is related to Macaronic verse, connoting a heterogeneous mixture of islands with no cohesive category or unified origin. --Wetman 09:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

good joke there, thanks it did not end up in the article. --87.168.67.213 10:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If that's a joke, the article might briefly explain the designation Macaronesia, so easily confused with Macronesia. --Wetman 19:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If it's "not to be confused," with Macronesia, then why does Macronesia refer only to here? (And, for that matter, it's a self-referential link.) If Macronesia is a misspelling of Macaronesia, then the article should simply say so in the first sentence, rather than leading one to think Macronesia is something different. --98.215.48.213 (talk) 02:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so, & I have altered it accordingly. --Rothorpe (talk) 23:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Part of Europe?

Hello @JJ 25: and @Peter coxhead:. I have created this space for you two so you can fight it out here. This way you have plenty of space to present arguments for your positions and other editors might also have a chance to engage in this discussion. So please go ahead. RhinoMind (talk) 20:23, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't see the point of the Europe portal here, but I don't care much about it either way. What I think is important is to be clear that: (a) Macaronesia is not entirely within Europe politically, although most of it is; (b) Macaronesia is treated as entirely within Africa biogeographically by the many sources that use the WGSRPD to categorize the distribution of organisms. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:31, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, from what you write and your recent edits, I think it is fair to say that you do care quite a bit.
As you also points out, most of the territory is part of Europe politically speaking, so at least this part of the discussion should be fairly easy to settle.
Regarding the biology, I encourage you to read more about the laurisilva forests in Macaronesia. They are distant remnants of ancient laurisilva forests around the Mediterranean region, including the European parts. It is in a very distant past, and laurisilva forests are long extinct in the Mediterranean region, but at least this serves to illustrate the biological link to Europe.
I do not have a final answer about whether Macaronesia should be in the Europe portal or not, but several facts points towards that. RhinoMind (talk) 21:01, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, I really don't care about the portal (I'm unenthusiastic about all portals). It's not for us to discuss why the WGSRPD puts Macaronesia into Africa, merely to note, with the appropriate reference, that it does, and hence so do the many sources that use it. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:43, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it is ok to turn off your brain and start editing WP like a zombie. No matter what anyone says. Are you from the WGSRPD? No? Then why follow them blindly? They might very well be wrong. And I think they are on this issue. I have even presented arguments, a rare treat in our day and age, where everything from security and economy to international politics is settled by emotions alone. RhinoMind (talk) 23:41, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Could you perhaps point to where WGSRPD explains how Macaronesia groups with the African continent? I can't see it anywhere. RhinoMind (talk) 23:46, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]