Talk:News Corporation
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This page doesn't mention the Advertiser, (Adelaide) where it all started for Rupert!
Disney?
I'm nearly 100% positive News Corp does not own Disney. I cannot find a connection between the two companies elsewhere. Can anyone confirm this is indeed false and remove the item? I am not in a position of comprehensive knowledge on the subject so will not do so myself.
No they have no relation at all. The only area where they have any significant dealings together are under the 'ESPN STAR Sports' cable channels throughout Asia which is a 50/50 joint venture.
The above is quite correct. Sorry, dunno how to start new bit - this not related to Disney - but STAR is getting out of JV with KG (CNS CATV operation in Taiwan). Not sure if completed yet. Vr2bg 04:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)vr2bg
and diney is owned by steve jobs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.78.102 (talk) 11:28, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Reincorporation
I don't think the reincorporation vote was unanimous, though it was sufficient for the resolution to pass. Bambul 11:15, 31 January (UTC)
Ticker Symbol
Can someone explain to me why there are two ticker symbols for news corp? NWS and NWS.A is one preferred and one common?
- nws.a are non-voting shares although there has been a little talk of merging the 2. Perry mason 19:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
MSNBC
I removed the following: "However, FNC's cable-news dominance has in recent years been challenged by the growth of MSNBC."
Seemed extremely dubious. According to the FNC page, "Fox News currently leads the cable news market, earning higher ratings than its chief competitors CNN and MSNBC combined by average viewership." Tajmahall 13:20, 18 November, 2005.
EXTREMELY dubious quoting Fox News about their own statistics.
Section removed
"Many alledge that the outlets that the News Corporation owns are designed to control free speech (See Wapping dispute) and freedom of the press through the purchase and acquisition of otherwise independent commercial broadcasting stations and Internet Sites so they can subvert them for political means or just to restrict community outlets of expression in General, (See Fox News controversies and allegations of bias, Internet MySpace Criticisms as well as the large acquisition of media outlets acquired -- visible below)"
Reasons:
- It is the worst form of weasel words, "many alledge". Who exactly?
- The subversion for political means is blatant POV. Is it not possible News Corp is doing it for commercial gain, like the commercial company it is?
- "restrict community outlets of expression in General" — Internet does not lack places to state your POV.
- The author shows little knowledge Wapping Dispute. The move to Wapping broke the crippling hold the unions had over The Times and Sunday Times. I'm not saying trade unions are bad, but the ones at the Times pre-Wapping were appalling. Mark83 19:12, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Controversies
I think that something should be added about the issues and some of the controversies surrounding News Corp. For example, the media laws in Australia and claims of bias and sensationalised news. Possibly also mention the film "Out Foxed: Rupert Murdoch's War On Journalism" (and even "Farenheight 9/11") as they discuss these issues.
Outfoxed and Fahrenheit911 both have had innaccurate information using clips to mislead watchers. For example, Carl Cameron in Outfoxed was portrayed as someone advocating Bush policies on air when in reality he was quoting a Republican politician and said so in the unedited segment. Fahrenheit911 has been discredited by the documentaries Celsius911 and FahrenHYPE911.
Bull.
Are you serious? F911 has not been "discredited" by those lame, low-budget, right-wing reactionary straight-to-video productions. ANN COULTER is one of the "experts" in FHYPE for God's Sake!
I agree that the statement that Fox News in particular "is widely derided as a right-wing propaganda machine, and not a proper news outlet at all, for it's heavily slanted, Republican bias" is factual, if controversial. Fox News is widely derided. I have added that sentence twice, but it has twice been deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.38.49.51 (talk) 06:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't know... most News Corp controlled media is right wing leaning and as such may be considered impartial.
Sky Channels not included
why have the UK and Ireland SKy Channels been ignored? Pratj 23:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Sky is included, under "satellite television" - BSkyB - That's the company, we can't list every channel of every News Corp company here or the list would be enormous. Mark83 21:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
SANZAR?
Why no mention of the S14 or 3N?--HamedogTalk|@ 08:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Removed template
Removed template of corporate assets, at the bottom of the article, as there was no direct source supporting it. Please see history and re-read Wiki policies.162.84.159.253 04:04, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Contradiction?
I'm a little confused as to why the article states 'News Corporation was created in 1980 by Rupert Murdoch...' but then goes on to say that 'News Corp made its first acquisition in the United States in 1973...'. How can they make an acquisition if they haven't been created yet?
They used to be a news paper company back then that got their first assets the artical is badly worded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epg (talk • contribs)
The company actually started back in 1952 (see News Limited) when Sir Keith Murdoch died of a sudden heart attack. His son - Rupert Murdoch - took over one of the last remaining assets of the family - The News, a newspaper in Adelaide, South Australia after finishing his last year of University. The company has existed since then in one form or another, the current listed entity known as "News Corporation" I believe was formed in 1979. This was the holding company, the businesses existed and was listed prior to this.Platz01 07:04, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Danii Magazine
Could whoever added the UK magazine "Danii" to News Corp's holdings please provide detail of their source for this entry, as I have searched exstensively and can find no reference to it anywhere. Does it exist yet, or is it a planned title?Platz01 07:08, 1 February 2007 (UTC) I am going to delete Danii Magazine from News Corp's assets as I can find no proof of it's existence - planned or otherwise.Platz01 22:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
MTM Enterprises
Deleted MTM Enterprises from News Corp holdings as it no longer exists. As explained on the MTM page on Wikipedia, the studio was folded into 20th Century Fox Television.
'RIGHT WING MEDIA CONGLOMERATION'?
Removed, from the first paragraph "News Corporation is one of the world's largest RIGHT WING media conglomerates." I'm not sure that anyone outside of leftist camps refers to News Corp as "Right Wing". I feel labeling News Corp a "Right Wing" media conglomeration is out of place here.
- Agreed. "The Simpsons" even pointed out that the FOX network airs shows that are far from conservative, while FOX news is known for being conservative--a contradiction.
The difference here is business. Entertainment programming is all about ratings (i.e., advertising dollars); FOX is not above pandering. But the "news channel" is a right wing propaganda machine, not an objective news outlet. Everyone knows that. It's obvious. Have you ever watched it? Even if you agree with the politics, it's completely politicized, completely partisan. Which, for a so-called, supposed "news organization" means it's corrupt. (It would be corrupt if it were leftist, because it's supposed to be a journalistic operation). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.38.49.52 (talk) 05:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Sibelius Software?
I don't know of the connection between Sibelius software, if any. Anyways, I highly doubt that News Corp would own Sibelius Software at the present time as Sibelius Software is owned by Avid, which I'm pretty sure isn't owned by News Corp.
Typos in Controversies section
The Controversies section in particular has a number of typos and incomplete sentences added in the last revision or two which need attention.
- It looks like someone just made a mistake and an entire section got put into another without it being known to the author. I did what seemed logical, but the end of "History" needs to be finished because I don't know what was supposed to be there. Xadnder 05:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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MySpace TV
News Corp recently launched MySpace TV. I have added a reference for the same in the 'Internet' section but it seems it is removed. Any specific reason for it? Can any one get more sources / references for this news announcement?
Republic of Ireland
In the Republic of Ireland, News Corp owns The Irish Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_%28newspaper%29#Related_newspapers) and The Irish edition of The Sunday Times (UK) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sunday_Times_%28UK%29#Irish_Edition). I didn't put this information on the article. Bokononist 10:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- I added The Irish Sun to the list of UK newspapers, and renamed it 'UK and Ireland newspapers'. In future, when you see information missing from an article, feel free to be bold and add it yourself! Terraxos 14:48, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
i think they are "the world's *largest* media conglomerate company"
"[nws] is the world's third largest media conglomerate company, the first two being Time Warner and Disney."
i think this is inaccurate but dont want to change it as i could be wrong. based on market cap, newscorp is the largest but it may be measured in other ways and thats why they are classed as third here.
anyway here is some proof that they are the largest: [1] [2] [3]
if it is measured by market cap, the intro bit on the main nws page will need to be changed.
Perry mason (talk) 00:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I have changed the text on the article to reflect that News Corp is the largest media conglomerate. Market Cap is the industry way to measure companies so I believe this should be the way we measure this. Feel free to discuss further if you think it should be changed back.
Kyle Sut 22 December 2007
Revenue & Market Cap. confusion
I have noticed that the supposed revenue of News Corp. is listed as $67.8bn in the infobox, when this is actually the market cap [4] - someone has got confused along the line, and also did not read the actual article where the revenue is listed in the intro. Time Warner seems to be the same! Please be cautious and mindful about these sorts of things people - they are vastly different values with different meanings. Orbitalwow (talk) 14:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
MySpace Records
MySpace records is listed as an asset of the news corporation but also as an asset of Interscope and therfore Universal music, and thus Vivendi SA. Obviously there is a conflict unless they each own shares. does anybody know whats going on here?--Matt D (talk) 06:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Never mind... I figured it out.--Matt D (talk) 06:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)