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In each person there is a place for your heart wtf!!!!

were is the savanA??

But, the Savannah, Georgia article gives a different explanation for the name:

According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary (with etymologies), the name "Savannah" means "Shawnee"; it derives from a Muskoghean Indian word—a variant of the native name of the Shawnees. Georgia colonists adopted this name for the Savannah River and then for the city.

So something is amiss. One of these explanations has to be wrong... no its not!!!

Nyh 20:29, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

the word "Savanna" has no "h" the word savannah does. this is the differece between a grassland and a forest

The presence or absence of an "H" is menaingles, just a spelling variation. The OED is considered the last word on English etymologies and says says "In 16th c. zavana, a. Sp. zavana, çavana, given by Oviedo 1535 as a Carib word. The later form savana (mod. Sp. sabana) is an instance of the usual N. American Sp. substitution of s for z. Cf. F. savane, G. savanne." In short, what this article says is correct WRT to defintion. Savanna/savnnah is an Anglicisation of a Carib word meaning "treeless plain". Whether Savannah Ga. has alternate origins I can't say. It seems unlikely.211.29.68.41 07:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Big Copyright Problem

I think this article has a very serious copyright problem. In mid-article it seems to start a-new (while being inconsistent) but the wording seemed to me too much "tourist-guide". A quick google search came up with this site: [1] from which it seems the entire text is derived.

Though I tried to understand the complete procedure in how to deal with this kind of thing - I have faild. I will bring the problems which affected me up in Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy.Havelock 20:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was only the last edit that had inserted a copyvio. In a case like this you can just revert to the last clean version, or simply remove the copyvio. If the copyright owner were to complain, it's possible (but a bit tedious) for an admin to remove the copyvio from the page history. Guettarda 20:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the page is very messy

Since I am too inexperienced and fear destroying the page, I wanted to make a note that the page is very messy and hard to read due to the odd placement of the pink text boxes. So if anyone who knows what they are doing is reading this, please fix it.

Another point, the Native America theory is stated by the Royal Botanical Gardens here in Hamilton, and they are usually right on this theory-- plus the oak savanna habitat is created by controlled fires, and yearly burns are done by the RBG to preserve this habitat.

I've had a go at sorting out the mess but it still seems a tad screwy. Anyone else care to have a try? Michaelritchie200 14:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted the Native American theory because it seemed controversial and uncited. If good sources can be found for this theory, please present them. 151.203.178.253 18:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

It looks like (Google test) "savanna" is the alternate spelling, while "savannah" is predominant. Is "savanna" regional, or specific to a particular dialect of English? If not, the page should probably be moved to "savannah" and the current "savannah" page to "savannah (disambiguation)". --Yath 19:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Savannah is the English standard, however "savanna" is almost exclusively used in botanical and ecological journals and texts. I guess that means we decide precedence by whether this is meant to be a generic article or a botanical/scientific one. Cases can be made for either.

C4 grasses

C4 grasses are mentioned in this article without explanation what these are(in the second sentence even). This is not good for an encyclopedia. Even worse, I cant find the meaning of this term somewhere else on wikipedia. Maybe somebody who knows what these thing sre can add an explanation in this article or a hyperlink to an article that explains this.

129.125.103.83 21:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. And good catch. I tend to forget that not everyone has what I consider to be basic knowledge in my own fields.Ethel Aardvark 23:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no savanna types, climates etc. available in this text. read german version to get missing informations--80.130.51.212 (talk) 10:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism - rampant ?

Are the any objections if I nominate this article for semi-protection? There seems to be on going consistent IP vandalism. Ronnam (talk) 07:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I support that entirely. I think the problem is that Savanna has become a common name amongst children of certain age. They look up the name on Wiki and then vandalise the article. Ethel Aardvark (talk) 00:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrations

A photo included in an article should illustrate some point within the article. The photograph of the lion doesn't do that in this article. A savanna is an ecosystem characterised by trees, while the lion photograph shows a grassland with what may be some out-of-focus shrubs in the background. Do a Google image search on the term savanna restricting the search to .edu sites to see the types of illustrations that should be used. They all show the trees as a prominant part of the photograph, with the continuous grassy understorey that is decribed int he intro to this article. We have a very good photograph of an African acacia savanna as the very first illustration,. Another photograph of the same basic savanna type would serve no purpose even if it weren't a particlularly poor respresentation of a savanna. Ethel Aardvark (talk) 00:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

someone wrote "you suck" which i obv deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.68.112.110 (talk) 23:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers Ethel Aardvark (talk) 01:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical

At the very beginning: "A savanna, or savannah, is a tropical grassland ecosystem...", what about the eastern savannas of the United States and the post oak savannas? Vultur (talk) 06:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the word "tropical". The article already talks about temperate, Mediterranean, and montane savannas, so 'tropical' is clearly inaccurate as a defining feature. Vultur (talk) 22:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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